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07-18-2006, 03:23 PM
Hello to the fabulous foreum:
I just came back from iquitos peru and participated in the "healers and scientists" workshop from people all over the globe and would like to share some my experiences.
Having 2 ceremonies before the conference began in an open platform in the jungle, my blissful states took me into a realm of textures and weavings of many sorts. I learned I lived in a round thatched roofed society on the water, which explains my deep love of water and sun. Not important though, but it took me into dimensions of textures and showed me how we are just futher expressions from other realities that just keep living on and on and on. Weavings took me even to metal realiities after doing the natural themes and I FELT textures that were beyond colors and shapes. Funny in the middle of it I was thirsty and I found a bottle of water in the semi dark and drank it. I soared into heavenly realms but was unable to hold it. Later I realized that I had drank from the curanderno's-alter, a bottle that had fallen off. I sheepishly admitted it to him. Percy was cool and explained that it was blessed holy water which explained my accession. (I only noticed when I felt the plants in the water too-what a boob!)
Here is the interesting part, I asked for healings and I was told to heal myself. (more on that later) Well ok, gee wheez, I thought.
I saw many spirits pass over the face of our curenderno (sp?) Very wild I felt I was given that gift to see who visited; some of cultures I recognized and others from beyond.
A Note: 2nd day I am back home trying to face my busy life (I am always shifting through a ton of saved stuff I use for teaching. I came upon some info I had saved from when I did teeshirts for a scottish fair 20 years ago.) My maiden name is a welsh name and I found this written info: Welsh; Arianrhod- a goddess ruler of Caer Sidi a magical realm in the north (The constellation-Corona Borealis is named Caer Arianrhod (Arianrhod's castle) Her name means Queen of the wheel or silver wheel. She is a weaver in control of the interaction of human lives and the matter of creation itself. This explains some of my bloodline and my "pinta" visions.
Anyway back to peru the conference starts and I chose to work with a shaman from the north I met when I went to machu pichu, he is from the sacred valley. He is into san pedro but with a tibetan twist. He is the last of a pure incan line (a sort of blue-blood and he is educated knows computers traveled all over the world speaks english and studied in tibet for several years. He makes us sing and chant for hours after ingesting. (We get breaks and we had just finished swimming in the amazon.) Now we got all sorts of people, some who just want a thrill, some who are just not willing to participate with the group, one guy kept saying to himself, I just keep playing the loser. Not all were willing to work at chanting. There was some fear.
Just then the huggest storm came over and rain came down in buckets, wind, quite a display. Some were not happy and did not come back for the next ceremony. Sayre was happy that we had weeded out the rif-raff and wanted to form a serious group.
A top moment came when I realized that I felt so good that I wanted to send it to everyone I knew, so I closed my eyes and beamed. Just then I was the center and from me in lines like the sun were a thousand eyes raidiating in linear patterns everywhere. Very cool, that's like all that indian stuff, I thought. Rainbows edging everything. I kept wanting to dance and holding my thumb and pointer finger together in the movements.
The next ceremony we did ayahuasca yet chanted for 5 hours straight. A little san pedro to get warmed up and then our first cup. Well I was seeing just fine on that. (Funny how different brews have different flavors, more serious, deep and very powerful.) Then we had to drink another cup the high-tes. Holy crap the visions were so prolific that I decided to take the middle way and put myself into the chanting. It was almost too much. I had wanted to lay down but that was not allowed. I am chanting falling asleep having a visions and waking up to realize that I was still chanting. I met a cat-like human, very sweet.
Here came the great learning. "Heal thyself" made sense. Sound is the key. Certain tones correspond to certain chakras, and certain elements, like water, air, earth, etc. The greater the singing the greater the purge, the cleansing, and downloads of pure energy. It was pretty darn fantastic which shows that if can use sound without herbs. But you have to bring yourself to the table and put your heart into it.
Man am I going on too much, past me bedtime. Thanks for letting me share.
Love, respect, and rainbows to this here foreum
Great story Jez3, lucky escape with the altar water!
How was the conference, did you attend many of the talks?
Originally posted by jezebelle3:
"Heal thyself" made sense. Sound is the key. Certain tones correspond to certain chakras, and certain elements, like water, air, earth, etc. The greater the singing the greater the purge, the cleansing, and downloads of pure energy. It was pretty darn fantastic which shows that if can use sound without herbs. But you have to bring yourself to the table and put your heart into it.
hey Drew here ya go!
07-19-2006, 11:26 AM
I have attempted to show my doodle notes but am unsure how to post it. I am on an apple platormum, but basically I drew as I listened. Pasted from photoshop (a jpeg) yet all I get is an html img?
Anyway, yes I did listen to the program many nights between. It was interesting listening to science explain how the dmt exists in our brain latently, and it is activated by the herb drinks, ya know the same stuff creating our dreams. However I want to caution anyone from just doing anything without a guide to protect you from outside influences either from youself or others. Honestly, it ain't anything to play with . . . willy-nilly. I did see one rather scarey character show himself in the passes over the curendaro. Most Peruvians only use it for healing purposes. You are at some sort of portal. For instance I saw my pattern again, something I used to see before I went to sleep as a child or when I was in college, in my experimenting days. We all have a signature shape (shall we say) showing what we are to others beyond the portal. Also with all the dna studies, we are really made of the same stuff of everything. Yet what seperates us is the the recent evolution from the front part of the brain (that is actually what is our human part.) Indeed we all live in a yellow submarine. (I'm dating myself, ha ha!) The rest is all the same but just put together in different combinations. To be human is to be ying and yang.
07-19-2006, 03:58 PM
07-20-2006, 12:40 AM
relax, I do.
07-20-2006, 03:48 AM
Lets form a group and go to the peyote fields of Mexico.
Gee Jez.Too much DMT is not good for you.
Here's a moon-hare for Arianrhod:
Thats a jpg image. I saved it to my pictures on the computer memory, and uploaded it to image shack (http://imageshack.us/) - you might have to register with them. When that is done you should be given 'code' (html) to copy onto forums.
Hope this helps - wish I'd been there!
07-20-2006, 11:51 AM
I hear you on that Isaiah, I am really conservative. My last experience was last year for the first time. Funny never did I have a dark a pinta (visions) only a loving deepening education, that I try to integrate into my teaching of wayward youth/us in "regular" life.
I honestly think it is crazy how some people just smoke it, or even do ayahuasca without ceremony. Without knowing how to protect yourself, you open a portal that exposes you to influences that may be difficult to handle. It is a really big universe out there . . . outside of our bubble. Not my style to just go off, too many people rely on me being grounded. Besides I have too much work that can't be just fucked-off for my own selfish pleasure. I mean this reality is just impossibly incredible enough straight up. A miracle just being alive! I love the mother, our earth.
What a fun idea, but as always I let myself be lead like a lamb and see how it unfolds, maybe down the road. I have a kid I have to get through school.
Thom I adore the rabbit and felt that the being I met pertained to all creatures that have that nose/mouse configuration: like lammas, rabbits, cats, many types.
I will try the website but may have to wait because I am on an old system (9.2.2 macintosh) and upgrades are expensive-gad it took me forever to get everything squared away. Life waits for no one. I am close to making a leap but my ducks-have-to-be-in-a-row.
Thank you again my favorite foreum
07-20-2006, 12:32 PM
If this works I'll be amazed
07-21-2006, 02:53 AM
hey jez that picture is beautiful!!!
thanks for sharing it..
r o b
07-21-2006, 10:01 AM
Thanks for sharing your adventure, Jez!
Isaac, if you don't like DMT, you can drink Ayahuasca with little DMT or even none at all. The idea that DMT is what Aya is about is a recent, western concept. (Which doesn't mean it is not a valid approach, of course, and perhaps what is needed by westerners.)
07-21-2006, 06:53 PM
I asked for healings and I was told to heal myself...Here came the great learning. "Heal thyself" made sense.
Sound is the key. Certain tones correspond to certain chakras, and certain elements, like water, air, earth, etc. I had a recent mushroom voyage that had elements very similar to yours. It was my first 'peak experience' trip. The tones and 'heal thyself', were main themes. As were the elements and a oneness with nature. I saw the entity in the jeweled city and could ask questions but my question 'Why do we pretend we do not know?' answers itself. We do know and we can heal ourselves we just pretend we can't. We do know all the answers but we pretend we don't. We need to trust ourselves and trust existance.
07-22-2006, 12:58 PM
so G'aya & the Spiny MoonFlower Cactus can actually be consumed together?
cos' so far, I've kept them separate
should they be asked? (of course, they should be asked... but it's just that I'm cautious about my only carbon based HD)
07-24-2006, 12:44 PM
"We do know and we can heal ourselves we just pretend we can't. We do know all the answers but we pretend we don't. We need to trust ourselves and trust existance. "
Indeed brother shamus, are we all looking for the next book, experience, drug, prayer that that will cataylize the best for us. I think if we remember that everything is a tool for us to see . . . that which we already know. Even buddha and christ took excursions.
But the rest is up to us. Was it buddha that said, look I could draw you a map but then you have to take it, drink the water, walk through the doorway, so to speak. Not to get off the subject; one thing that christ means to me is the idea that a space-will-be-held-open for you, until you get it. For all muddling around we all do, in our punny selves we can have room to grow and be something beyond ourselves. I am greatful.
sacha; I heard very nice things about you at the conference, thank you for your courage and insight.
Belitlil : probably a good idea to keep them seperate.
I don't know really anything except by my own experiences. But then I was lead by a very skilled leader. I trusted him for it is indeed a sensitive matter.
By midnight I was perfectly sober and able to catch a taxi bike alone to my hotel.
Time was inbetween, doses. (now there's a line for you ha-ha)
love and respect, jez
07-26-2006, 04:04 PM
Snow -- thanks for the connection. I am definitely a bit envious of these exotic trips to far away lands where spirit travel and syncretic "cat-people" are communicated with.
Heal thyself! CATS HAVE SUCH AMAZING HEARING. Well "Know thyself" was the motto of Socrates -- THE LOGOS of Socrates.
In fact LOGOS MEANS THE CREATIVE SPARK OF FIRE-ESSENCE (rough translation) THROUGH SOUND-CURRENT.
So Healing is the ultimate creativity -- never know how the EMPTY AWARENESS will communicate the healing message.
Through death? Or through "hitting empty" (waking up in a gutter or being shot point blank, etc.)
CHANTING FOR HOURS AND HOURS.
USING PLANTS WITH VERY LITTLE DMT
Gee sounds like SOUND might have a Hella lot more role in guiding the spirit travel then is given credit.
OM Mani Padme Hum -- the vowels circle the energy up the back and down the front.
Tibetan mixed with Andean?
My old friend who is indigenous from the Andes LOOKS TIBETAN and she took me to the Andes where
I drank some chicha (or something) and had a Near-Death Vision -- my whole life of obscure memories like a movie I could not stop but not linked chronologically -- linked PSYCHOLOGICALLY so that years later deep secret conflicts were resolved.
And so it is --- a holographic laser that condense LINEAR TIME into a FLASH!!
(high altitude vastly increases natural melatonin that turns into DMT vision)
Back to the ANTI-MATTER of the WHITE HOLE BEYOND three-dimensional spacetime.
So the "spirit" holographic ones and zeros will become part of a new life -- the DEEP BLUE BIOLUMINESENCE OF THE DEEP OCEAN??
MOON WAVES 100 hundred feet high DEEP IN THE OCEAN control the ICE AGE OF EUROPE!!
96% of biological habitat is the Ocean -- Leviathan, Tiamat, Chaos -- the flying serpent of Apopis from which comes:
07-26-2006, 05:10 PM
THE TUNING FORKS OF CELLULAR HEALING
that's good drew thanks. i've been reading your posts, following up on your ideas, and thinking aobut this sound thing; then this jolt, this image, came to me, of sound in this performance piece i am working on- and it makes the piece fly. it involves tuning forks. so i've been wanting to ask you about tuning forks for a long time. thanks.
drew what do you think, form is emptiness, emptiness is form. mother Prajnaparamita, but that was written for bodhisattvas drew, to give them courage.
[ July 27, 2006, 03:59 AM: Message edited by: snow ]
07-27-2006, 03:18 AM
See Sound gives us the FORM to resonate into the FORMLESS which GUIDES all ENERGY.
the Sine Wave -- is the flying Snake.
What book was I reading recently where the big deal was how -- oh yeah GEOFF WARD's new book:
"SPIRAL" -- he writes how the spiral form is more universal and basic than the snake. BRAND NEW BOOK RAVED ABOUT BY JOHN MICHELL, other luminaries AND A FORWARD BY COLIN WILSON
Well in fact the form is a double spiral vortex or a klein bottle or a twisted scroll ring or a double torus.
But really the FORM IS THE FUll-Lotus Pyramid Power.
The full-lotus is the six-pointed star as two interlocking equilateral triangles.
The equilateral triangle is the MOST SYMMETRICAL FORM on earth.
But when you measure the length you get an irrational ratio UNLESS the FORM RESONATES INTO THE FORMLESS.
How so -- music enables the ratios to resonate as their complimentary opposites so 4:5 becomes 5:4 as the cube root of two (creating the illusion of 3-D spacetime).
The equilateral triangle is made of two 3:4:5 Pythagorean triangles.
3:4 is the Yin Perfect 4th and 4:5 is the Major Third as
THE SINE-WAVE -- the flying snake.
So when you sit in full-lotus you make one equilateral triangle (spine and knees) and then the elbows with the hands in front of the HEART-MIND make another equilateral triangle.
By putting the elbows between the feet and knees you get an interlocking VORTEX that resonates up through the PSYCHIC CHAKRA OF THE NECK AND THEN STRAIGHT TO THE PINEAL GLAND (as taught by the National Treasure of China, Master Yan Xin)
If you sit like that long enough the energy then reflects back to the hand channels and then into the Heart-Mind and resonates further.
Finally another vortex turns the other way around the outside of the body until it's filled with electromagnetic energy and your head gets real soft and BREAKS OPEN (I spent most of the night doing this and my forehead is throbbing! The middle of my brain is bursting with bliss!)
Anyway the equilateral triangle is an illusion that resonates as a sine-wave back into the Tai Chi symbol (or the Om) through the ratio resonance DOTS of the Tetrad (1:2:3:4) into Kepler's Secret Symbol (an equilateral triangle with a circle circumscribed and a circle inscribed) -- as 4:5.
The resonance of "frequency" creates a significant increase in "amplitude" (professor Brian Goodwin) so that an asymmetrical sine-wave drives all of evolution (professor Karl Pribram and Sir Karl Popper)!
drew hempel, MA
07-27-2006, 12:58 PM
hey drew I'm digging your posts.
I think this line of yours packs a punch of information:
"So the "spirit" holographic ones and zeros will become part of a new life -- the DEEP BLUE BIOLUMINESENCE OF THE DEEP OCEAN"
Funny about the computer and how it works, reminds me that it is just another divine tool as as plants are too. But then I 'm related to some culture deep into metals but I love the mother earth too. I'm probabaly just another program sent out in the explicit-order to appreciate the mix with the mother earth. I'm down with that.
It's neat that you are popping the top chakra out of "our" hamburger hell or heaven depending where you are. Divisions seem trite.
Love and respect, jez
07-27-2006, 02:09 PM
Yes Jezebelle3 -- the X-Files promoted an alien intelligence molecule hiding deep within the Earth as the true eternal origin of life.
Only the alien-human hybrids will survive.
Is that alien intelligence molecule DMT -- the spirit molecule which caused so many to communicate with "aliens" in the recent federal experiments?
DMT -- the spiral holographic communication molecule of outer space?
If ocean life, starting as bioluminesence some 500 million years ago (see Dr. Andrew Parker's "In the Blink of an Eye," 2003, now used by the military for evolution neural network prediction), --- if ocean life sees auras and communicates holographically through telepathy, does the Deep Ocean not also store the DMT waiting to restore ecology on Earth again?
07-31-2006, 12:05 PM
quite alot to think about.
Ya know I run into many kids from all economic backgrounds and I call them "future mutants" or "futants". Some of them are in dire circumstances but they somehow rise above the rest, even as gansters or the spoiled lucky ones. I don't know if they are hybrids but better them me, to handle the next cycle.
I like to think that there is a universal force/archetype that will provide for unfolding of "dmt" the same stuff as our dreams, or art/meditation-focus-of-the-moment. Will ALL allow for the urchin to develop?
Maybe it is a question of when we hop off the malestruem; we become our hybrid self and join the greater community of delveloping unity wherever your arena/program.
Good question, YET the earth will restore herself reguardlesss, and is waiting for her children for as long as she is able. A good mother.
07-31-2006, 03:31 PM
Yes Drew.Do not lose touch with this group.
Have you experimented with or off hand,which of the ultrasound heaing machines is the best bargain.
I am definitely going to stock my new Hololistic clinic with some of them on I-40 and Lake Eufaula.
I am a chelator as well as a half ass shaman and a full blood Messiah.
08-02-2006, 09:08 AM
Well jezebelle3 -- speaking of "futants" I just saw the X-men movie which is all about that but the true message is a secret I think.
See if you watch the X-Files Movie (versus the X-men movie!) the scene were the two protagonists are about to kiss? Then the red-head female gets stung by a bee that has the Alien Virus (DMT).
Well in the X-Men movie it's all about the Red-Head Female Jean (whose uncontrollable powers driven by suppressed love -- just like the X-Files) and the goal to "control her."
But the real climax of the Futants is when Jean comes back to life as a Whirlwind Vortex and then kills Steve.
See Jean is supposedly killed at the end of movie by the Male Hero as the true act of love but that's bullshit (that's not the real climax).
The real secret is the FORMLESS COSMIC MOTHER that radiates through the double spiral -- the whirlwind teleporting vortex of Charles Fort (featured in the X-Files cuz it rains frogs).
The Red hair is actually from the Neanderthal's according to Stan Gooch's amazing "Cities of Dreams: When Women Ruled the Earth."
Neanderthals were the true "futants" because they were naturally paranormal, loved sex and gore.
The oldest magic is spreading hematite all over the body -- this was mined in huge pits and tunnels 200,000 years ago!!
Hematite comes from Magnetite -- the magnetic meteorite rocks that is the secret Ka'aba of Islam and the secret of Athena worship in Rome -- a meteorite rock stolen from Asia Minor that was the worship of Cybele and the magnetite was the center of the Cosmic Mother worship in Egypt.
So you spread the red-magnetic rock all over your body and presto! Futants.
The DMT is activated as the Cosmic Serpent as the electromagnetic bioluminesence through a double spiral vortex with the DNA.
drew hempel, MA
Oh -- and "protein music" is now all the rage! It was even in Nat'l Geographic recently
But I prefer Joel Sternheimer's work on it -- he used it to expose the true origin of Mad Cow Disease Futants: pesticides to kill a bore that eats the cow's leather.
08-02-2006, 02:28 PM
Bioluminesence of molecules using sound.
08-03-2006, 11:28 PM
I found some protein music and it resonates!
Ha, ha, neanderthals, looks like we haven't moved too much past sex and gore. Maybe a leap will be made like we did from cromagadelum (sp) to neanderthal; in 2012 . . .sex and gore squared; ha, ha.
Wouldn't it be neat if you were ill; you could go to a room down in the square, get blasted with some tones, be realigned. Or even do a rave, if that's what you like.
I heard biology is the new frontier, but sound is running second.
It's scary to realize that as a species we have de-evolved somehow. I mean places like machu pichu sound must have been used to put those rocks in place, or the wall in cuzo. How come we are smart but really dumb. What spiral thread of ommm will pull the next-clump-of-us past the 50's determinism, in science, religion, relationships.
It is here, that unity but how to use it.
How long does it take to filter down to even the middle east and various "street" rock-brains runnning around.
We say, "so human" part of us knows exactly the condundrum, yet we can't really define it. Just another mathematical wave yet still being human-particles in the great dream from a bigger archetype.
08-04-2006, 12:14 AM
May I ask you both a question?
Will you read my post in Cultural Production forum, and maybe answer the question I posted thereon (A qustion of reading and writing)
I have read this thread with great interest and wholly enjoyed everything (particularly Jezebelle's description af the ayahuasca experience!) Quite unsure how to write a reply to all this wonderful writing, so this becomes just a simple request for a visit to another area of the forum?
08-05-2006, 07:49 AM
Seaweed provides new supercapicators for power storage in remote electronics.
that was a great story! I've been longing for such an experience for a while now but have no contacts for arranging a trip like that... Could you steer me in the right direction?
09-13-2006, 08:34 AM
Zehn, here is a place to start. http://forums.ayahuasca.com/phpbb/viewforum.php?f=29 There are "ayahuasca retreats" all over the internet if you google for them, but the above link is where you can find out about people's experiences, recommendations and comparisons.
Here is something coming up that I can recommend without reservation, knowing the people involved who are of high integrity:
[ September 13, 2006, 09:36 AM: Message edited by: sacha ]
thanks for the info, sacha! it's much appreciated. i'll make sure to check it out.
09-13-2006, 03:13 PM
only now have I seen your post.
shasha leads your right, I'd go there, first and read.
Back posts here are informative, too.
Many good books through amazon because it is a sort of scarce subject in the bookstore.
I can recommend a shaman if you are in Iquitos, but for your first time, it had to be there in the jungle (for me).
It was all worth it for me, the money stretch.
09-15-2006, 04:45 AM
Jez you are the best.
Bud is my ayahuasca. The bucks don't stretch that far.
09-15-2006, 06:02 AM
I see that quicker than the devoted can respond, the metalheads insert their banal tantras.
Just remember, it's a test. What forces us awake?
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