Kicking the Ass of Sacraments

[drew hempel]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neem_Karoli_Baba

[Caprinardo Delirio]

yeah, the story of him eating all of richard alpert's acid was pretty remarkable.

[drew hempel]

Read his biography. Forget Rammed Ass -- just a messenger and nothing more. His guru was totally awesome but stupid white people just read Rammed Asses' books which are stupid, thus perpetuating the cycle.

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[Caprinardo Delirio]

drew, why do you insist that only the deepest of the underground has any validity?

what about the many people who feel that rammed ass's books were tremendesly helpful to them? don't they matter in the larger telos because they're only low level droids or something?

i'm sure that guru is much better at any of the 'special abilities' that one can gain, but i don't agree for a second that any of these yogic powers, which there are many and awesome, still have anything to do with leading a wise passage through life. essentially these powers are nothing more than any other skill you can learn while on this planet and there are a lot of them and noone will ever learn them all. insight, wisdom, willingness to die as the key to life was what the ass ram brought, and many people's lifes were better because of it. i never personally got on him, but just because it isn't for me, should i then call them stupid and snear at people who do find them valuable?

you know, lighten up man.. (i'm gonna do that right now, by the way)

[drew hempel]

Yeah just wait till you have a stroke like Rammed Ass. Some "guru"! haha. He should have practiced full-lotus but then HIS guru thought Rammed Ass was a joke -- just as Civilization is a joke.

Preventing a stroke is not some "special" power..... or is it?

[cosmoz]

I read somewhere that he didnt even eat the LSD, it was a sleigh of hand trick.

"He would sit there going to places we couldnt follow"

Id be right on his little GURU heels.

C.

[Caprinardo Delirio]

maybe it was because he had given himself a conscious lobotomy so he could just sit there looking chilled... but no, it probably was a party trick like that.

on that note i heard that ken wilber had some serious seizures that he was hospitalized for in december. developmental complications, i guess would be the appropriate terming..

i wish him well.

[drew hempel]

"read somewhere" as in some vague rumor? Maybe a link or can we just make up stupid shit! I read the biography which gives ample evidence that Rammed Asses guru was totally real. Not only that but I've met similar masters-- you can't fake the full-lotus.

Stupid white arrogant assholes destroy Earth now! Ken Wilber included -- my masters, "epicenters of justice" debunks Wilber's guru status.

[cosmoz]

I really can't link you to a book, I'm just passing on what i remember reading about ohhhhh 354 books ago.
But you have inspired me to check into it,

C.

[drew hempel]

354 -- that's 1 year ago for me. Surely you can remember! haha. So you better read the biography about the man which you slander! haha. Serious Juju-time.

[Caprinardo Delirio]

so, what would your explanation be for being able to swallow several doses of lsd and still remain in roland barthes reality?

[cosmoz]

Slander?

Yipes!

After reading this article i remember that it was in one of Terence's Books.
Scroll down to the article: "Did Ram Dass Gee U R U Really take LSD?"



www.stevens.edu/csw/cgi-bin/blogs/scientific_curmudgeon/?m=200607&paged=2





What ever happened to you Drew that makes you so crusty, I'm sorry, bad things happen to good people, You'll get over it.

Beyond Yonder
Cosmoz

[cosmoz]

If indeed this story is true, I would speculate that the GURU had Leared to releaeeeeeeeeeseee his own endegenous tryptamines. LSD having a tryptamine core, would have gotten him off, but if he indeed was a High guy, then it wouldn't have blown his mynd as much as someone who hadn't practised kundalini Yoga.

Just wonder

Cosmoz........:razz:

[Caprinardo Delirio]

from all the weird and wacky roads you can get stuck on while practicing such deliriant disciplines like kundalini yoga or the full lotus, it might just have brought him back to home base, for all we know.

i don't think it holds much merit as an example or suggestion of any sort. still the causally inverted kind of miracles that masculine, paranoid, paternalistic and christian minds like to obsess over. miracles or magic tricks of that sort are utterly unimpressive for those interested in "real" truth.

in my snobby opinion.

[sidecross]

Anyone who has seen pictures in the early 60’s of Vietnam Monks torching themselves after poring gasoline over their bodies and meditating until their bodies fell over would know that a disciplined mind could handle many things that most of us could not.

[Caprinardo Delirio]

seems also that the heavily diciplined mind will engange in action that most of us would not..

[sidecross]

seems also that the heavily diciplined mind will engange in action that most of us would not..


The images of the Vietnam Buddhist monks and nuns who by immolation protested their treatment as Buddhists and protested the war will for ever be etched in my mind as the strongest protest against war and discrimination I have ever seen.

[Caprinardo Delirio]

that is true.

[jezebelle]

Giggle, how I enjoy your superior musings (forgive me for jumping in)

"masculine, paranoid, paternalistic and christian minds like to obsess over. miracles or magic tricks of that sort are utterly unimpressive for those interested in "real" truth. in my snobby opinion."

Funny I was thinking along the same lines. What difference does it make if it was real or not, whether he took the acid or not, or was Ram Dass a low level transmitter or not. I got something out of Ram Dass when I was 19. Carlos C. also did it for me, for awhile. I treasure the higher messengers (Neem Karoli Baba seems beyond the ordinary) as many do. You on this foreum do it now for me, as other arenas have! My stupid point is; even if you could prove or disprove truth . . . we still cannot sink back in our safe worlds thinking nothing need change, my paradime is safe. I clutch my ideas. So us, so lifey.

If we indeed are the food for higher beings/aliens/whatever, if so I want to be a tasty morsel that enriches many, such is this human bubble.

You all make me laugh but I like it. Bless the "left" hemishere.

all reguards and respect, jez

[Caprinardo Delirio]

giggle? :)

there's a long walk from clutching your clock in hope that through stillness will finally come a time for living, to paddling the pointers to the upsurging of all space, all time and through total transformation again bring the ocean of being and becoming to a sailable still.

or is there?

[drew hempel]

Ah yes -- John Horgan. I emailed him about a year ago. No response! As George P. Hansen told me http://tricksterbook.com there is a category of scientists who come into the realm of paranormal studies ALL TOO LATE. haha.

Did Horgan even read the biography of Rammed Asses' guru? DON'T THINK SO!

Yet I've read John Horgan's classic "The End of Science"! haha.

So what gives? Horgan get to work ! Stop misleading this wannabe "esotourists!" haha.

Horgan's latest book on "Mind science" spirituality IS TOTAL BUNK!!

I told him so in my email -- we'll I was nice about it -- and pointed out, as I've done many times on BOTH -- that

YOU CAN'T FAKE THE FULL-LOTUS -- yet the West keeps testing people who don't even have their 3rd eye open!

haha -- what a joke!

Now then there's the opposite claim that practicing full-lotus is some freaky fetish -- a sort of evolutionary dead-end branch from early Western pyrotechnics or something!

BUNK! haha. Again Read MASTER NAN, HUAI-CHIN!!

haha. People's brain too lazy.

Also take tons of cayenne if you need a kick -- the oldest plant drug is

HEMATITE by the way -- so get off the "tryptophan" kick or whatever!

IRON pyrites are the oldest form of life on Earth -- made from Thermophile Archaea bacteria that feed off sulphur and hydrogen.

See you can have "life" on just hydrogen proton superconducting quantum chaos!!

hahaha THE WAVEFORM OF THE TAI-CHI is the means to create all "holographic" astral forms -- out of black holes of

EMPTY AWARENESS.

[Caprinardo Delirio]

oh, the humanity!

[drew hempel]

On the clockface of geological time humans are only the last 2 minutes.