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sidecross
12-06-2005, 04:29 AM
“…Jon Miller, a professor at the Northwestern University medical school who has tracked attitudes toward evolution in 34 countries, says Turkey is the only one with less support for evolution than the U.S.”

The Hubris of the Humanities

By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF
Published: December 6, 2005


The best argument against "intelligent design" has always been humanity itself. At a time when only 40 percent of Americans believe in evolution, and only 13 percent know what a molecule is, we're an argument at best for "mediocre design."

But put aside the evolution debate for a moment. It's only a symptom of something much deeper and more serious: a profound illiteracy about science and math as a whole.

One-fifth of Americans still believe that the Sun goes around the Earth, instead of the other way around. And only about half know that humans did not live at the same time as dinosaurs.

The problem isn't just inadequate science (and math) teaching in the schools, however. A larger problem is the arrogance of the liberal arts, the cultural snootiness of, of ... well, of people like me - and probably you.

What do I mean by that? In the U.S. and most of the Western world, it's considered barbaric in educated circles to be unfamiliar with Plato or Monet or Dickens, but quite natural to be oblivious of quarks and chi-squares. A century ago, Einstein published his first paper on relativity - making 1905 as important a milestone for world history as 1066 or 1789 - but relativity has yet to filter into the consciousness of otherwise educated people.

"The great edifice of modern physics goes up, and the majority of the cleverest people in the Western world have about as much insight into it as their neolithic ancestors would have had," C. P. Snow wrote in his classic essay, "The Two Cultures."

The counterargument is that we can always hire technicians in Bangalore, while it's Shakespeare and Goethe who teach us the values we need to harness science for humanity. There's something to that. If President Bush were about to attack Iraq all over again, he would be better off reading Sophocles - to appreciate the dangers of hubris - than studying the science of explosives.

But don't pin too much faith on the civilizing influence of a liberal education: the officers of the Third Reich were steeped in Kant and Goethe. And similar arguments were used in past centuries to assert that all a student needed was Greek, Latin and familiarity with the Bible - or, in China, to argue that all the elites needed were the Confucian classics.

Without some fluency in science and math, we'll simply be left behind in the same way that Ming Dynasty Chinese scholars were. Increasingly, we face public policy issues - avian flu, stem cells - that require some knowledge of scientific methods, yet the present Congress contains 218 lawyers, and just 12 doctors and 3 biologists. In terms of the skills we need for the 21st century, we're Shakespeare-quoting Philistines.

A year ago, I wanted to ornament a column with a complex equation, so, as a math ninny myself, I looked around the Times newsroom for anyone who could verify that it was correct. Now, you can't turn around in the Times newsroom without bumping into polyglots who come and go talking of Michelangelo. But it took forever to turn up someone confident in his calculus - in the science section.

So Pogo was right.

This disregard for science already hurts us. The U.S. has bungled research on stem cells, perhaps partly because Mr. Bush didn't realize how restrictive his curb on research funds would be. And we're risking our planet's future because our leaders are frozen in the headlights of climate change.

In this century, one of the most complex choices we will make will be what tinkering to allow with human genes, to "improve" the human species. How can our leaders decide that issue if they barely know what DNA is?

Intellectuals have focused on the challenge from the right, which has led to a drop in the public acceptance of evolution in the U.S. over the last 20 years, to 40 percent from 45 percent. Jon Miller, a professor at the Northwestern University medical school who has tracked attitudes toward evolution in 34 countries, says Turkey is the only one with less support for evolution than the U.S.

It's true that antagonism to science seems peculiarly American. The European right, for example, frets about taxes and immigration, but not about evolution.

But there's an even larger challenge than anti-intellectualism. And that's the skewed intellectualism of those who believe that a person can become sophisticated on a diet of poetry, philosophy and history, unleavened by statistics or chromosomes. That's the hubris of the humanities.

http://select.nytimes.com/2005/12/06/opinion/06kristof.html

willoweyes
12-07-2005, 09:38 AM
Frankly, I haven't noticed a great interest in either philosophy, history, logic or poetry in my home town of Denison, Texas.

Why Kristoff feels he must bash the humanities (the examples he uses to highlight American ignorance are humanities-based questions) I don't understand. (an example of the thinking that insists all topics must have winners and losers?)

The passion for insight and knowledge--in whatever field--is not the enemy! In fact, part of our current problem in the sciences is the lack of a firm humanistic and literary background in its practitioners.

Da Vinci didn't distain the arts--how foolish to imagine that could be the solution to our degenerate science programs!

craazyman
12-07-2005, 11:08 AM
This fellow is a minor bozo. Who cares if the New York Times newsroom is full of art snobs--they're irrelevant anyway. There's an intelligent case for intelligent design that Bible boobies and humanist ninnies are equally ignorant of. But Francis Crick wasn't. The problem is that humanity in general isn't very good at honest thought. There's no remedy for that except property, representative government and separation of powers. And all that can do is protect the thinkers from the thoughtless. I've met folks in my life that were interested in Michaelangelo and Martin Luther and Maxwell (James Clerk) and Modigliani (both the Italian painter/scuptor and the Nobel prize winning economist by that name.) But I admit, I've been lucky.

sidecross
12-07-2005, 12:24 PM
I definitely agree with willoweyes & craazyman and have no idea why an emphasis was made to ‘Humanities’.

I have an older brother who just retired from being a Professor of Philosophy and Ethics for 30 years and a good friend from high school who is now a President of well known Liberal Arts College; both would bristle too at that remark. (As for myself, I took Tim Leary’s advise and ‘turned on, tuned in, and dropped out’ of school after less than a year.)

Education is an ongoing event. Anyone who thinks a ‘Degree or Ph.D. terminates education is a fool. I have no problem discussing most things without having a formal education. At the same time I have talked with many fools who have enough parchment and degrees to cover more than one wall.

Education is an ongoing event; to think otherwise is foolish.

craazyman
12-07-2005, 12:57 PM
Sorry, I meant Giacometti not Modigliani. I don't think Amadeo Modigliani was a sculptor at all, but he was famous for his portraits. Supposedly he was a soft young man who came to Paris in the 1906 and tried to resurrect the warm Italian line in the midst of cubist frenzy and it and the Paris scene hardened him so much that it killed him by 1920. Then his young wife turned to her parents in grief but they rejected her out of petty disapproval of her marriage to him and she threw herself out their 5th story window to her death. It's the kind of story you could make a movie about -- Amadeo -- "For the Love of God". I think it could be done without sentimentality, keeping it hard. If I had a million bucks and a year to burn, I'd do it myself.

Rob P
12-07-2005, 04:33 PM
hi craazyman
modigliani did in fact do some sculptures...
i think there's one or 2 around here in ny somewhere...
they look just like his portraits, with those
elongated faces and torsos....http://us.st11.yimg.com/store1.yimg.com/I/guggenheim_1868_877977
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