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drew hempel
02-06-2007, 12:08 PM
OK I got my 1/4 oz. of Salvia leaves from Brazil -- supposed to be the highest quality stuff -- over 10 leaves. Supposedly you have to take some 6 quid to really get lift off but this looks like only 3 quid. Anyway the store clerk thought it would get "breakthrough." So tomorrow I'll do this -- on empty stomach while in full-lotus trance. Should be interesting.....

Anyone else out there in on it? haha

K.J
02-06-2007, 12:35 PM
OK I got my 1/4 oz. of Salvia leaves from Brazil -- supposed to be the highest quality stuff -- over 10 leaves. Supposedly you have to take some 6 quid to really get lift off but this looks like only 3 quid. Anyway the store clerk thought it would get "breakthrough." So tomorrow I'll do this -- on empty stomach while in full-lotus trance. Should be interesting.....

Anyone else out there in on it? haha

Let us know how it goes!

I recently received my absolute favorite salvia tincture (Sage Goddess Emerald Essence) from Mr. Siebert (http://www.sagewisdom.org/) and have so far just had an introductory experience with my wife (low dose). It isn't my first time, but it was hers, so we started low and will work our way up as we engage this magnificent plant teacher on our path.

pepe3leches
02-06-2007, 01:02 PM
wow, drew hempel doing druggie things!
Can't wait!

Apollyphelion
02-06-2007, 05:30 PM
I went to Salvialand Hyperspace :-) 5 times in two days! I have mucho to write down. I think drew will gain spiderman abilites or magneto's.

drew hempel
02-07-2007, 11:52 AM
It was sweet!! I still have this "deep bone nerve cleansing" sensation. I got up -- took a big dump. Eat a clove a garlic (I have "sleep apnea" so I have to eat garlic to kill the bugs in my brain! haha). Drank a glass of water. Danced to the radio for about half hour -- pissed out the water.

SIT DOWN IN FULL-LOTUS -- start in on the quid. Suck the leaves till there's no juice, chew and swallow. I can feel, after about 5 minutes, this distinct sense of the "center of gravity" of my consciousness dislodging from my brain and beginning to roam.

Take more salvia. I realize there's not much to suck. Suck till dry, chew, swallow, take more. I just keep this up and then I realize my body feels like scintilllating light -- with my eyes closed. My energy channels are opening but I still feel the pressure points of the full-lotus (feet on thighs). The center of the feet channels are opening and this "deep nerve" cleansing begins.

So I deepen my full-lotus position -- feet way over thighs. Take 3rd quid and then just rapidly suck dry, chew, swallow several more quids. The stuffs gone -- sucked dry, eaten.

All of a sudden I go into the "emptiness" -- my thoughts are that not only have a entered a new corridor of space but a new corridor of time as well. No real big visions but I'm somewhat half conscious and then realize that the chakra energy is literally SNAPPING MY BACK -- and my brain is making this

CRUNCHING NOISES. There were 3 distinct snake-waves up the back and then opening the 3rd Eye. My eyes were closed and I opened them to make sure I had finished the Salvia. There was just a bit -- a couple little leaves. By now my movements and perception were slowed down quite a bit but I got that stuff in my and closed my eyes.

There was this bright light in the center of an empty room -- my 3rd Eye. I'm thinking -- ok if I'm seeing this light in the middle of my brain -- a distinct point of light -- and feeling it, like it's on the end of a stick -- the real question is...

"Who is seeing this point of light on the end of a stick in the middle of my brain?"

I mean it's not like my eyes can turn themselves around to look inside my head.

Anyway the whole time the radio had been playing http://kfai.org -- the local Pacifica station with a great old blues -- swing show early R & B from the 1940s. The lyrics eerily matched my experience because when the trip kicked in there was a song about traveling to heaven, and then the next song was similarly matched....

I remembered that I had this exact same experience last summer after doing a 3 day juice fast in full-lotus. I could see this point of light in the middle of my head and feel it sticking on the end of my brainstem. Then I thought -- yeah but who the hell is seeing "inside" by brain. Totally weird.

Then I went to McDonald's - - the only cafe in my neighborhood and hung with the old Leftist who is named Randy and is indeed Randy. I was totally lucid, sitting in full-lotus. Have about 3 internal orgasms set up by females in the restaurant with whom I exchanged savory glances. Randy wanted in on it - he was practically climbing on top of me!

Told me to go to a website.

Isaiah Mpski
02-07-2007, 11:56 AM
I'm looking into your head right now Lord Hemp and it's telling you to turn up the gas furnace.

drew hempel
02-07-2007, 12:43 PM
Yeah I dried my wool socks 3 times in the hand drier at McDonalds! ahha too funny! Drinking coffee activates the adrenal glands causing the extremities to sweat. Also my long-sleeved undershirt was soaked in sweat from the Salvia trip -- like I said -- a "deep nerve" cleansing is the best description.

And the "voice" that was "me" began distinctly loosing its sense of being "me." I head many "voices" talking within my head and I felt like our sense of "I" is very fragile. In fact we are just light-spirits temporarily occupying our body-brains and once out of them we sort of drift. I think also that people are continously "possessed" by these drifting light-spirits (displayed as being "taken over" by strong emotions or modes of perception)and this is why Master Chunyi Lin does an exorcism exercise from Taoism.

Oh and that website -- "tree of the golden light" is some "alien" vistation website. Poor randy has become a true believer despite me repeatedly stating it's CIA propaganda. that's why I focus on this CIA-New Age Alien stuff -- it's amazing how many people have fallen for this.

graffitirun
02-08-2007, 06:14 AM
you did all this and then went to ...mc donalds
??

drew hempel
02-08-2007, 09:07 AM
It's not where you go -- it's what you experience when you're there! haha. Yeah I protested that same McD's in 1996 -- big street puppets we had. But most of the McD customers are either completely dead poor or total Americana old whites -- usually the two go together. Most of the staff speaks spanish and so this also attracts spanish-speaking clientele as well.

I've researched the McLibel trial indepth. I usually get a side salad and McDouble Cheese burgers -- because I've found that I get a huge testosterone boost from their beef (scary but true).

Yeah I've get "sleep apnea" because I have super huge tonsils and my extremities are a bit too small -- when I was 2 years old I got 24 rabie shots in my stomach (with a one in 3 chance they were mercury laden and my symptoms show as such).

So I go to McDonald's because of the testosterone.

In fact I think Peter Singer is an idiot -- the U.S. was built on testosterone -- in fact Western civilization is based on BEEF for sex and bigger, more destructive machines.

So for Peter Singer to want everyone to be a vegetarian would be to undermine the whole thrust of western civilization.

I was vegetarian for about 15 years and I hung with some wanton Leftistas that sucked me into a totally spent state. It was pathetic. All that tofu for leftists is sad. Tofu is only eaten by Buddhist monks who have no contact with females otherwise soy is just animal feed in Asia. Vandana Shiva is big on this "soy shrinking men's dicks" stuff. And also Brahmins DID eat beef even though the cow is "holy" in India -- so another sacred myth shattered (by Verso Press).

Being "oversexed" is actually a medical condition in Traditional Chinese Medicine -- it's mentioned in the martial arts movies on occasion.

Anyway Peter Singer is promoting this "bourgeois" consumer-based vegetarian movement led by suburbanites. Suburbanites live a Mall-based lifestyle. Cars use just as much energy as eating meat does and most suburbanites use cars as well.

We need a more socialist transportation system like in Europe -- but even there they have a U.S. type car system increasingly.

I'm a REALIST. Humans are destroying Earth.

ielectric
02-08-2007, 10:15 AM
I mean it's not like my eyes can turn themselves around to look inside my head.

thanks for reminding me of this feeling. i've had it every time i've tripped.

I think also that people are continously "possessed" by these drifting light-spirits (displayed as being "taken over" by strong emotions or modes of perception)and this is why Master Chunyi Lin does an exorcism exercise from Taoism.

denis johnson's novel "already dead" unfolds using this premise. he acknowledges being inspired by "a course in miracles" in a brief endnote. this led me to that text, which i found instrumental in helping to prepare myself for the ensuing plethora of synchronicities i've chosen, up to and beyond 2012/both.

to want everyone to be a vegetarian would be to undermine the whole thrust of western civilization.

what's wrong with that?

All that tofu for leftists is sad. Tofu is only eaten by Buddhist monks who have no contact with females otherwise soy is just animal feed in Asia. Vandana Shiva is big on this "soy shrinking men's dicks" stuff.

don't forget cheese. talk about blockage! broccoli is only used for cow-feed in france. at least, this was true when i lived there in 1987-92. the french, with their fundamentalist gastronomic evangelism, were horrified at the thought of consuming such fodder. things may be different, now that u.s. business interests have bullied their way over the farm bloc. vegetarians seeking protein should eat nuts, not soy. nuts are not processed, whereas usda organic labeling was castrated a year ago when u.s. congress agreed that processed food labeled organic may contain as many as 500 non-organic ingredients. as for the sexual and/or male genital benefits, the eating of nuts can only prove homeopathic. haha!

drew, by the way, i did read "epicenters of justice" and responded with a lengthy text i am hesitant to post. for now, i must say that i was truly inspired by your surfeit of references and motivated by the thrust of your thesis on harmonic resonance. unfortunately, in a thesis that cites the erasure of a comma as the root of misunderstanding, it baffles me that you do not find a competent editor to clean up the text. true, words are only symbols of symbols, but they do embody the same harmonic resonance contained in every other code of notation [music, math, glyphic, etc.]. barring myself, i know of several others who might assist you in this regard. you do your ideas and your readers a disservice by presenting epicenters of justice in such a slipshod form. posting to a forum is one thing, and even lends itself to garbled ciphers. but a completed text as rife with errors as what is posted by yourself dba "epicenters of justice" should abide certain structural laws, thus allowing its unbounded principles to shine through.

peace

cosmoz
02-08-2007, 10:19 AM
Interesting Experience Hemp.

Ive never done the Quid method, but i have smoked varying degrees of Extracts.
The Lady Salvia is quite a goddess.

www.lavondyss.com/donut/scov.html

D.M.Turner has left us with the most comprehensive research on this entheogenic plant, Check it out.

Cosmoz

drew hempel
02-08-2007, 12:33 PM
thanks for the link Cosmoz. I'll read that. My main gripe is that to achieve a deeper experience it looks like I'll have to dole out too much cash. Whereas in our overabundance of people yin-yang magic is free and instantly interactive.

drew hempel
02-08-2007, 12:48 PM
Ielectric -- on my writing style I recommend http://drewhempel.gnn.tv wherein you'll find every writing style, by myself, on the face of the planet. I would say each academic discipline has a specialized style along with its jargon whereas my work is interdisciplinary, sure to please noone! ha!

I read a book a day -- and have read all the classics in fiction. I think writing is bunk -- especially editors. Writers are the "farmers" of the city -- behold to large distributors, just as farmers. Anyone trying to be a writer is just a debt-slave to the whim of what is "marketable" (i.e. commodified, mass-produced and dead).

Even blogs on the internet often self-censor because obviously any critique of the blog writer is not appropriate! Forum moderators are prone to moving threads that they, themselves, don't "understand." So much for free exchange on the internet -- especially considering many bloggers are not paid by advertisers or work for P.R. firms.

Just so you know I didn't "publish" my masters thesis -- someone named "Elias" read it and published it. The work was already read through by three Ph.d.s as my advisors. So obviously it's readable on some level.

The Pythagorean "comma" is not a symbol but a "concept" which is itself a western form of consciousness, starting with Achilles. Read Professor emeritus Stephen Toulmin's "The Return to Reason" (2000 or so) for details on "Metis" and the transition to the Socratics. Toulmin was Wittgenstein's protege at Cambridge -- he's brilliant. It's probably in my blog that I linked to as well.

I'm not a writer but an "anti-writer." Starting with Plato's Phaedrus, the written word has been fetishized, reified in the West as the hegemony of left-brain, right hand dominance.

McDonald's is just a symptom of the larger Matrix transformation of left-hand directed carbon-based molecules (ecology) into right-hand directed silica-based molecules (A.I. Freemasonry).

Even Zizek takes this stance, as noted in his documentary, wherein he states that he takes his son to McDonalds allow both his son and himself do it for fake reasons.

On the contrary when I go to McDonald's I know that I'm destroying the Earth, just as when I type on a computer at the University.

Just as I protested McDonalds so did my email get sabotaged at the University.

Yet I still use the University computer lab.

The "root" of the problem is deeper -- a type of "transcendent Realness" achieved through right-brain cerebrum resonance with left-brain cerebelum resonance based on gender relations.

To make people alive again is to restore the inherent asymmetric complimentary opposites of gender relations that as of late have been "standardized" into Mass Fordism (whether under Lenin or Hitler or Eisenhower, etc.). Standardization started with the Pythagorean Theorem.

So having multiple mutual orgasms with the fellow "customers" in McDonalds is somewhat subversive.

Usually I eat at SomaliTown -- the goat -- but since I'm the only regular white customer I've been outed by the Somali Elders as an "infidel" and have been the focus of conversation as of late. There's been some action to discourage my business.

So my last post was made while I simulataneously discussing the nuances of Sufism, comparative religion, education, ecological catastrophe, etc. with an ESL student from Somalia.

haha

drew hempel
02-08-2007, 01:11 PM
If people have a home-freezer then this is a great list of alternative meat sources rather than standardized mass murder production.


http://www.landstewardshipproject.org/foodfarm-main.html#SFN

craazyman
02-08-2007, 01:22 PM
yeah but you can't beat McDonald's crisp apple pie. I can't eat the cheeseburgers there anymore, I'm getting to the point where I'm starting to worry about the arteries & I go for the Asian chicken salad. I bet Socrates would chomp on one though. At any rate, imagine what the Platonic form of a big Mac must look like in it's ethereal grandeur. Where's a Chardin with a paintbrush? He'd nail it.

drew hempel
02-08-2007, 01:27 PM
My buddy Big Bert -- I secretly call him PervBert -- he takes the crust off the apple pie and then claims he can only eat one (although you get a free one that he tries to give to me). Anyway marketing the apple pie as "healthy" is so bogus! Bert is obese but we're open about it. haha.

Looks like I gotta go Veggie again or the new Bush-led EcoFascists will get me:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kathy-freston/vegetarian-is-the-new-pri_b_39014.html

When they started cranking out "I.Q." tests stating vegetarians scored higher then I knew the whole Bell Curve mentality was kicking in.

Eugenics and Sanitation go hand in hand -- both are progress for our "spiritual" evolution.

Even Orangutans eat meat on occasion.

cosmoz
02-09-2007, 11:10 AM
A internet friend of mine, figured out how to make a Salvia Spread. It was like honey Oil made from Pot. IT was yellow and you smeared a rolling paper with it and then smoked it with some Pot.
I haven't tried it yet. But it sounded yummy.

Cosmoz

ielectric
02-10-2007, 10:47 AM
Ielectric -- on my writing style I recommend http://drewhempel.gnn.tv wherein you'll find every writing style, by myself, on the face of the planet. I would say each academic discipline has a specialized style along with its jargon whereas my work is interdisciplinary, sure to please noone! ha!

I read a book a day -- and have read all the classics in fiction. I think writing is bunk -- especially editors. Writers are the "farmers" of the city -- behold to large distributors, just as farmers. Anyone trying to be a writer is just a debt-slave to the whim of what is "marketable" (i.e. commodified, mass-produced and dead).

Even blogs on the internet often self-censor because obviously any critique of the blog writer is not appropriate! Forum moderators are prone to moving threads that they, themselves, don't "understand." So much for free exchange on the internet -- especially considering many bloggers are not paid by advertisers or work for P.R. firms.

Just so you know I didn't "publish" my masters thesis -- someone named "Elias" read it and published it. The work was already read through by three Ph.d.s as my advisors. So obviously it's readable on some level.

The Pythagorean "comma" is not a symbol but a "concept" which is itself a western form of consciousness, starting with Achilles. Read Professor emeritus Stephen Toulmin's "The Return to Reason" (2000 or so) for details on "Metis" and the transition to the Socratics. Toulmin was Wittgenstein's protege at Cambridge -- he's brilliant. It's probably in my blog that I linked to as well.

I'm not a writer but an "anti-writer." Starting with Plato's Phaedrus, the written word has been fetishized, reified in the West as the hegemony of left-brain, right hand dominance.


i understand all of the problems associated with writing. it is a technology, arguably at the root of all technologies. i suppose i didn't expect you to post other than a defensive reaction, which is why i didn't post my longer version of my "critique." in it, i anticipated a lot of your arguments about the writers' market, even cite "phaedrus" and its account of thamus's words on writing. how buddha and jesus and socrates and untold others never committed to writing, for the sound of the voice imprints on the soul. in fact, i have long been writing an encyclopedic event titled "all writing is fiction," which deals with the way in which writing has come to steal the voice of humanity.

and yet, drew, all things speak with one voice. i did not say your text was "unreadable." i did suggest that it could be made much more readable. while you may not be interested in collaboration so-named, i would remind you that your existence is a collaboration. we are all your symbols, whether embodied across from you at a table in mcdonalds by the u, or a compendium of 26 ciphers arranged to appear as so much light and shadow on your screen. i merely suggested you find an editor, because i find the work inspiring and resourceful. still, i could only read your text that day, among the many others i read every day, because your usage of the symbols got in the way of the concepts. an editor. help someone help you to help us. that's all. you don't have to do anything but read it over again when they're done.

like the buddha who wants not to want, i write not to write.

you didn't ask for my help, so forgive me.

in fact, i read your text after asking for yours.

peace

drew hempel
02-10-2007, 11:09 AM
Hey I appreciate the attention to the writing style! haha. Actually Charles Madden, a physicist and self-published author -- http://www.amazon.com/Fractals-Music-Introductory-Mathematics-Analysis/dp/0967172756/sr=1-2/qid=1171137698/ref=sr_1_2/002-5946177-5389638?ie=UTF8&s=books wanted to publish "epicenters of justice" as a real book. He said it would be sent to all the libraries, available on Amazon, and promoted at the Frankfurt Book fair, etc. He also said he would pay for all the costs, of course -- printing, distribution, and that I would get a royalty of sales.

Sounds pretty cool -- yeah? But when push came to shove he began questioning my arguments with a fine-tooth comb (which is great) and then stated that actually his wife liked the work more than him! haha. He said it would be fun to work with a young author like myself (at the time I was probably 34!) haha.

Anyway he said it would take 6 months to totally rewrite the work, based on backing up all my claims. I began explaining to him the issues he didn't agree with -- it was basically challenging the very foundations of science! I told him look I already had 3 Ph.D.s review the work for my University masters thesis and that someone else already published it after reading it.

On top of that I said -- hey it's ANTI-COPYRIGHT so change whatever you want and even put your name on it!

Have fun with it! Really!! I mean if he wanted to publish it then he should just publish it! But he didn't really want to publish it -- he wanted to REWRITE the work! haha.

The same holds for you. I've done "group" writing before and it sucks.

For example when I was a staff op-ed columnist my editor would read the column and say "why don't you write it like this" and I would explain the logic of exactly why I wrote it as I did. It turned out he just didn't understand the REASONING of what I was writing. After a few columns like this, fact-checked of course, he just kinda gave in and trusted that he didn't understand what I was saying. He stopped trying. For the first few columns though I took a long time explaning exactly why I wrote each sentence in its form and he had absolutely no argument with me. I had been hired based on my previous email activist writings -- done for free of course. So obviously SOMEONE at the U of Minnesota Daily understood my writing and every column I wrote generated some wild letters demonstrating people both understanding and misunderstanding the column. haha

It's just a matter of understanding the 2nd level of writing to the work -- sort of like when I read Ulysses in a trance -- my mind would wander, triggered by the book, I'd keep on reading without realizing I was reading because I was in some dreamstate, then I'd come back to the book, farther along, only to be triggered into another dreamstate. Basically there were waves of subconscious associations with the text -- read subconsciously! Which is correct?

haha.

My dad, of course, couldn't believe that Charles Madden actually wanted to publish the work. My dad's a retired lawyer so I asked him about it first and my dad kept on insisting that Madden had asked ME to pay $3000. I finally said, Dad show me any evidence that Madden wanted me to pay -- even though I've never said that but in fact stated the opposite. It was hilarious.

ielectric
02-13-2007, 03:49 PM
being alone is highly overrated

peace