LSD fear / hope / excitement

[ShinyThings]

I have only recently been reading books about 2012 and all the prophecies associated with that year, but it is all VERY interesting to me. I am 22 years old and an avid fan of live music. I have not taken LSD for quite some time beacause of my fears of entering psychosis or developing schizophrenia and not coming out. Like many of you ... i don't trust the government, and i think mankind is headed down the wrong path. Money and materialism are horrible lifestyles.

Next weekend i am going to head out to a music festival to get back to my tribal dancing roots that i love so much. I am thinking about taking some LSD at this event, but i'm nervous about it. I'm afraid my paranoia about the current state of the world might send me into a downward spiral from which there will be no return, but on the contrary i think i might have a revelation or a spiritual awakening and see myself for who i really am and want to be. I want nothing more than for everyone on earth to live in harmony with nature, but i am petrified by the path society is headed down

any ideas on whether or not i should embark on the psychedelic journey and how i should go about it if i do?

[bopes]

I'm no expert but a "fear of entering psychosis or developing schizophrenia and not coming out" does not, to me, sound like a particularly stable platform from which to launch.

[Dna]

Money and materialism are great lifestyles. Get yourself a slice of the cake and don't be so up your own arse.

[RIbot]

Look, most LSD these days isn't close to being the real thing. Why don't you try to get some mushrooms. You won't freak out and will most likely end up laughing your ass off. It's a very cleansing experience. Other than that maybe a few hits of some good weed, or better yet make brownies and you'll be tripping out. Mankind has been entraped by the ego/mind and it's passions/desires. We're always looking outwardly to alleiviate our pain with pleasure. Americas desire is primarily based on selfish greed, which can never be satiated wanting more and more. If only this or that would happen, or I had this or that...blah,blah,blah. Money and materialism give a sense of power which is illusory. Getting back to nature??? Do you know how many venomous creatures exist on this planet alone? We live in a warring universe. Particle against particle,creature against creature and planet against planet. You have everything you need within you. The mind is sick but the soul is perfect. So I wouldn't be so worrried about things. Everything is unfolding just perfectly. Whatever will happen is meant to be. Don't expect an awakening as it probably won't happen. Changes are a comin' but it will be a while longer. Clouding the mind with substances serves no purpose other than escaping...but it's only temporary. Have fun dancing.

[Isaiah Mpski]

And if you could transmigrate and talk to the great prophets,
what do you think they would say?

They would Emerson you very thoreaughly on a path near a pond of always pure water and heir.
It would be free for all,if all would understand.


Old pond,new frog.Old frog,new pond.SPLASH.

[Dna]

You're only 22.

Don't get to intense. Don't be afraid.

I don't believe the notion that nature is 'red in tooth and claw'. Definitely connect with nature, but find the balance between that and the materialistic world you claim to be set against.

We definitely do NOT want a collapse of the economy. Well not a total one. A salutory partial collapse may bring us to our senses.

There is a lot wrong today, but there is a lot right. At this point I am pretty convinced that we are manipulated by a small elite who are able to exercise power over us and our governments primarily by the control of the money supply. Following the money is definitely a worthy line of pursuit if you want to go down that path of research.

As for psychedelics, I can give you little advice, as my experience is limited.

When I was 18 I first took the mushrooms and I was pretty fucked up with a lot of issues and low self esteem. This all came out in a bad trip I had. If you have issues like I did, don't externalize them by blaming them on 'society'. Start with yourself. Socetal problems are merely personal problems in aggregate. Sort yourself out first. You'll have better trips for a start.

You know, you are here to make a difference. We all are.

Go with something natural like ayahuasca or mushrooms as you can control the dose so that you only take a little, not like LSD. These things are also harmless. Also the preparation of same helps with the set. Use all medcines judiciously. By their very nature psychedelics reflect your inner processes to you. You may be presented by insights and visions that provide seeming conformation of something negative or positive in your future.

Just as with fortune-tellers these are only suggestions based on your current 'energy'. You are only looking at a snapshot of your current momentum and trajectory - a path that you will continue to follow if you do not shine your consciousness on it.

So, be careful. Life is meant to be enjoyable in my opinion. Do not take it too seriously. Enjoy material things as well as spiritual things.

Dna.

[Isaiah Mpski]

When do you start taking it seriously DNA?


".... when I'm sixty-four...."LOL.
The Beatles appx. 69

Or maybe when your airport is canceled or your electricity goes off.
I know,I know.I sympathize with the young Muslims too who have little to look forward but hard times and MAYBE? 100 virgins in Heaven.

Oh Lordy me.I'm so lucky to be living on the Southern Plains of America with all the other fuckin Indians.Me with my,"pure genes", environmental ways and little money.
But the garden is good and the chickens are laying.
It's good in the cool of the spring here in McIntosh County,Creek Nation eastern Oklahoma,USA.
Eating an Apple.


Are any of you familar with Alf Landon.US overhere are quickly moving toward his ideas of isolationism DNA.
Look for Gore to make his move anyday now.

[David L]

I am also 22. From my last experience with LSD I had similar fears about losing control, going off the deep end etc, and up till this last LSD experience it had been a year since I took LSD and over a year since I took shrooms.

If life and these experiences with these substances has thought me anything it's that we aid in whats going on...

You want/ think about negativity you'll see it. I personally don't like taking these kind of substances in distracting areas, such as music events, for me, I like to be outside, in nature, set and setting.

I've been becoming more conscious over these last few years, it all started around 18 (6+6+6=18) - light bearer? and was almost lost in my narcissism and heavy neurosis until about 21 (7+7+7=21). I'm still learning about self ability, which I think most people are age are doing and sad to say I see that many people don't get past this point and try to mask and cover what is going on, uncovering, clearing, yada yada, different names for the same things.

"We have nothing to fear but fear it self". Terrence Mckenna said that there has to be something wrong with you if your not just even a little bit fearful or nervous about the psychedelic experience your about to undergo.

So the crux of this is that you hold the keys, your the lens or perception. I find that breath is important to tripping.

[ayahuascakhan]

ShinyThings you are not alone inn yearning to feel the "holy" through lsd channel. Life. I had a really traumatic experience my third time at the COSM as I was dragged out by 2 body guards. I had taken 3 gel tabs and I honestly felt like I was going to be killed. I was having visions in the meditation room when I accidently hit one of the art panes. For the next 3-4 hours I was on 27th street in Manhattan walking barefoot because I apparently lost my shoes in the struggle(found them later). Words cannot describe my world that I was in being so confused as to what just happened. 2 months later though I experienced again in the woods going on a hike. It was the best feeling to be with natures spirit. "To Each His Own" but I feel if you have the right "intentions" you will be safe. Just remember to trust where you get your LSD. If you bug out you are just exploring your inner workings and that's always good. Don't anticipate, just be. These aren't just words but whether it's through psytrance, art galleries, ceremonies, yoga, meditation, therapy, biking, walking in the woods--- go with good intentions and WE ARE THE PEOPLE RIGHT HERE IN THIS FORUM THAT ARE talking and doing something about spreading consciousness and evolving to a plane where we are exploring self-one-. THE AMAZON-AYAHUASCA-GAIA you should consider going down there and really hitting the roots. Hey man it's your path and remember each day to just balance-breathe. Peace.

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