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bopes
08-14-2007, 07:41 AM
here's a good un, from the NYT (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/14/science/14tier.html?8dpc)
. . . if you accept a pretty reasonable assumption of Dr. Bostrom’s, it is almost a mathematical certainty that we are living in someone else’s computer simulation.

This simulation would be similar to the one in “The Matrix,” in which most humans don’t realize that their lives and their world are just illusions created in their brains while their bodies are suspended in vats of liquid. But in Dr. Bostrom’s notion of reality, you wouldn’t even have a body made of flesh. Your brain would exist only as a network of computer circuits.

You couldn’t, as in “The Matrix,” unplug your brain and escape from your vat to see the physical world. You couldn’t see through the illusion except by using the sort of logic employed by Dr. Bostrom, the director of the Future of Humanity Institute at Oxford.

Dr. Bostrom assumes that . . . advanced humans, or “posthumans,” could run “ancestor simulations” of their evolutionary history by creating virtual worlds inhabited by virtual people with fully developed virtual nervous systems.

. . . and if the posthumans were to run lots of simulations for research purposes or entertainment, then the number of virtual ancestors they created would be vastly greater than the number of real ancestors.

There would be no way for any of these ancestors to know for sure whether they were virtual or real, because the sights and feelings they’d experience would be indistinguishable. But since there would be so many more virtual ancestors, any individual could figure that the odds made it nearly certain that he or she was living in a virtual world.

. . .

Dr. Bostrom doesn’t pretend to know which of these hypotheses is more likely, but he thinks none of them can be ruled out. “My gut feeling, and it’s nothing more than that,” he says, “is that there’s a 20 percent chance we’re living in a computer simulation.”

. . .

It’s unsettling to think of the world being run by a futuristic computer geek, although we might at last dispose of that of classic theological question: How could God allow so much evil in the world? For the same reason there are plagues and earthquakes and battles in games like World of Warcraft. Peace is boring, Dude.

Isaiah Mpski
08-14-2007, 10:00 AM
Peace is boring...come on Bopes.Wake up.Peace is never boring.

bopes
08-14-2007, 10:18 AM
I didn't say it. The writer did. In the context, I think it's meant to be a stab at humor.

craazyman
08-14-2007, 11:57 AM
there is a 100% chance Dr. Bostrom would not realize it, if he were.

Caprinardo Delirio
08-14-2007, 02:08 PM
well these positivists all think that everything is a machine so what is the news here?

bopes
08-15-2007, 05:02 AM
"so what is the news here?"

No news is good news . . .