Cassiopaea

[Thomas]

Hi Daniel,
I listened to you on Art Bell last night and was fascinated by your work. Sorry that I haven’t read any of your books yet, but plan to now!

I was wondering if you (or anyone else on this list) have ever checked out http://www.cassiopaea.org/ ? Much of what you were talking about reminded me of the information at this site maintained by a quantum physicist, Professor Jadczyk and his wife, Laura. They are very much into a marriage of science and mysticism. She as written an interesting research book I am in the middle of reading called ‘Ancient Science’. A great in depth look at history and myths and what the message might be for us in the future. They also talk about an upcoming dimensional shift that they refer to as the Wave.

Anyway, if you have the time I’d be interested in hearing what you think of the site as it seems very related to your discoveries, though they don’t seem to have used any drug experiences to obtain the knowledge.

Thomas

[Kali]

Hi Thomas,

Continue to do your research on this site. Others are claiming that she "channels" this alleged "future person(s)" through the ouija board and has run numerous scams in the past, i.e., insurance scams, welfare scams, yadda, yadda, yadda. I would approach anything I read on this site with caution and investigate further before accepting anything I read on there.

Kali

[Thomas]

Hi Kali,
Thanks for your advice, I do intend to do more research here, and get busy reading Daniel’s books.

I know she claims to be communicating with herself from the future, though when investigating the website it is refreshing to find it is not the usual new age babble (which is why I posted this question here in the first place) and the amount of research and questioning that has gone into material is impressive.

It was amazing to hear Daniel on Art Bell and see that much of what he has learned and was talking about closely paralleled what I saw on the cass site. Isn’t that odd that 2 completely separate and different paths come to the same conclusions? Obviously, the reality that Daniel is describing is much more wide open than the usual one we all accept. Given that; is receiving messages from yourself in the future any further fetched that receiving messages while on drugs?

I have done my research on the scams that have been alluded to. From what I can see all the accusations out there come from one individual, who as I understand it, tried to scam her but failed and became disgruntled. I like to think I am a pretty good judge of vibrations people put out, and the ones put out by the disgruntled guy are much darker than any I get from the cass site.

Have you looked at the site yourself closely? It’s your choice, but I think there is a lot of useful information there.

Thomas

[Kali]

Hi Thomas,

Okay. So you've read the negative comments already. Good 'nuff. I don't know the lady so I just thought I'd point it out.

Best to you.

Kali

[daniel]

I read through the Cass website a while back, liked some of it, disagreed with some of it, and in fact have no problem with someone channelling themselves from "the future" -- or I would say from another phase-state of space time for which one can use the term "future" as a denotative.

William Irwin Thompson in "Passages about Earth" is very interesting on this kind of channelled info:

Now the really puzzling problem in terms of information and noise in the occult is why the many versions are so alike and yet so different. It almost seems as if there is, if could discover it, a law waiting to be articulated in terms of semantic shift ... Then again, perhaps we are being too human, linear, and simple-minded to assume that there is one message that is the Truth and that the variations all come from the pickup of noise from the distorting and communicating medium. What if at the higher levels of meaning consciousness is like a hyperspace in which each point is equidistant from the other and where "the center is everywhere and the circumference is nowhere"? The mythologies of the occult seem like baroque music: there is an overall similar quality of sound and movement, but, upon examination, each piece of music is unique; Vivaldi and Scarlatti are similar and different. If we think of it in this way, we can see that art is a closer approximation of reality than science, and that information theory is incapable of dealing with the infinite variables and multiple meanings of poetry."

When you move from the dualistic mental-rational consciousness to the more open "integral consciousness" (to use Jean Gebser's term), you find that there are different forms of truth-content that individuals express from their own vectors - a different kind of statement which Gebser calls "verition." These statements of verition do not conflict with each other necessarily, however some are better (more aesthetically and philosophically satisfying) than others.

Because this new pattern of information is still unfamiliar to us, it is useful to get different iterations of it from a variety of sources, until you have absorbed the structure (a bit like music, as Thompson described above).

Rudolf Steiner is very useful in his description of philosophers being "Artists in the realm of concepts," and the goal of thought to "reconcile" the world of concepts (thoughts) and percepts (stuff). This task of reconciliation is an infinite project - unlike the delusionary Western science attempt to foreclose on reality through some "Final Theory of Everything."

[Thomas]

Hi Daniel,
Thanks for your response. I agree, it seems there are many different approaches out there. Some resonate with me stronger than others. Since we are all unique, I guess we need the different approaches. I too find that in any given approach there are things I agree with and some not so much. For me the most important characteristic is that the approach emphasize collecting data from many different sources and methods, and to stress personal effort to verify the information. The trick seems to be filtering out information from disinformation. I do believe there are forces out there that would rather people did not find out the truth to our reality.

I do like your approach here and hope to gain by studying your work.

[daniel]

Thomas: "I do believe there are forces out there that would rather people did not find out the truth to our reality."

Perhaps but as i just said in another post, "obstacles are part of the path." If everything were simply handed to us, we wouldn't do the work on our own, and wouldn't evolve. For this same reason, there are benefits to psychedelics being illegal and repressed -- "not secret but sacred, not hidden but guarded," as one shaman said to me.

[Thomas]

I know the value of having to seek in order to find. Things are not so hidden if you just make the effort to find them. My concern are entities from as you termed ‘another phase-state of space time’. I feel I am not much more than a small child, as I think we probably all are, when first encountering a reality that is new to me.

My experience tells me to be cautious, and to be aware that there are intelligences in such areas of reality that I would label as evil (for lack of a better word), who’s intent is to keep me in my place (or worse). To me this is a different level of obstacle compared to being secret or guarded, and requires a different approach to deal with. Maybe I am being overly cautious, or totally off base.

[jezebelle]

Pardon me I just want to blip in for a second:

"you find that there are different forms of truth-content that individuals express from their own vectors"
I like this phrase.

It reminds me of the Mayan families or tribes of that have been existing in a wave alright, since the sun's birth. To the Mayan our sun manifests the galactic mind, which passes on in every mutation. They form a perfect circle.

At the center of their thought is a ying/yany type of image that is Hunab Ku, "One giver of movement & measure," "the principal of life beyond the sun (the galactic center).

Then all this incredibule math stuff connects to everything to everything and there is Kuxan Suum, the pathway.
Kuxan Suum is the fiber that connects both the individual and the planet to the galactic core, through the sun.

Just mixing it up, it seemed to relate.