Joscelyn Godwin

[Caprinardo Delirio]

hi guys!

i'd just like to key you in on this author, and his long range of interesting books, particular those on the drew hempel type of tip:

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/51XHSW13XFL._SS500_.jpg

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i187/richidpraah/mysticisminmusic.jpg

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/41JBX4FJFFL._SS500_.jpg

he has written on other topic revolving around these hermetic and occult spheres... hope this interests somebody here, i sure can't wait to get some time with these.

cheers and peace

[drew hempel]

Professor Godwin and I have corresponded and he was nice enough to refer me to one of his graduate students that maybe more interested in my research.

Godwin, himself, still relies on symmetric-based harmonics (not real shamanism). He promotes Neo-Platonism as alchemy although he says that he just records the information. But he never raises this issue in detail of orthodox Pythagorean harmonics -- how the actual overtone series is an asymmetric resonance of the Perfect Fifth.

Plato closed off the fifths (via Archytas). Then in the 9th Century John Irigena Scotus (sp?) picked up the Platonic torch and finally it led to Western alchemy.

Godwin covers that history but he doesn't actually get to the real stuff unfortunately: Pythagorean shamanism.

A good source on actual Pythagorean shamanism is "In THE DARK PLACES OF WISDOM" by Dr. Peter Kingsley:

http://peterkingsley.com

[Caprinardo Delirio]

thanks alot, drew!

i've heard about kingsley, definitely gonna check him out very soon!

[Mars]

Drew, have you ever read "The Baroque Cycle" by Neal Stephensen?

I'm halfway through the 2nd volume, "Confusion" and was wondering what your take on it was as regards alchemy, the evolution of finance, other topics. I'm a neophyte on this topics but my interest is growing as it seems to be coming at me from many directions.

[Caprinardo Delirio]

what about alain danielou?

[drew hempel]

Neal Stephenson is, alas, another person who doesn't get it. At least he's trying. I've paged through the Baroque Cycle and his sections on alchemy are superficial which is not surprising considering his first novel: Zodiac. Stephenson maligns environmentalists in Zodiac with, again, a techno-fetish outlook. So that's his worldview, like most Westernized thinkers.

Alain Danielou was very very close to the truth. I've read his harmonics books and also his academic essays. Danielou's final work was on a keyboard with a 52 note scale! It used microtones with only perfect fifths.

This is a cool concept, kinda like fretless instruments which are becoming popular.

But Danielou was still fairly superficial because the synthesizer, as an analog instrument, still relies on logarithmic harmonics for the electrical wiring.

Danielou practiced tantra as the final step of western capitalism. I'm pretty sure, if I remember correctly, he was queer and saw Hinduism as embracing free sex, in line with free exchange of global culture.

This is, of course, accurate but for it to be alchemical the sex energy has to be sublimated and transduced into electromagnetic fields and finally into formless awareness or female consciousness.

It's this very simple, yet radical, concept of complimentary opposites in harmonics that was still lost to Danielou I think. It's not that the scale only uses perfect fifths, but rather that the fifths continue to transduce into ultrasound which ionizes the body's electrochemicals to create electromagnetic fields as formless awareness.

The prostate gland is activated in gay sex and this is also the key to the male having a female orgasm but again it's the full-lotus or the "small universe" practice that sublimates and transforms the energy.

The lower half of the body is yin while the upper half is yang.

The yin energy is collected through the pyramid vortex, transformed into yang, and then shot out of the body as blissful light, into the yin energy around the body (usually females) which then shoots back into the male source, as magnetic attraction.

This is the free energy cycle based on the "form of the formless" -- the Tai-Chi symbol or the Tetrad.

Kepler was very close but he still had a NeoPlatonic or geometry-dependent definition of Pythagoreanism (just like Godwin).

The secret is to be auditory dependent, not visual, so that the inner ear focuses the pineal gland energy.

The West is, of course, very visual, and visual-based reality is the definition of science (hence the limitations of the NSA-raised Stephenson).

[drew hempel]

Of course here's a new free radio interview from the Real Thing! haha. Enjoy.

http://www.springforestqigong.com/content/view/56/85/

[Caprinardo Delirio]

you're really something, drew... hope you take my occasional accusation of your arrogance in balance with my envy of your vaster than the formless knowledge of books!

[drew hempel]

Healing a migraine -- Master Chunyi Lin in action:

http://www.migrainepage.com/dcforum/discussion/12886.html

[Caprinardo Delirio]

cool,

but don't you think it's sounds too dualist to call formless awareness female consciousness?

i have a lot of issue with the usage of the masculine feminine pair in many writers' work. like david deida, who i feel is a complete hack, also has very deep philosophical implications of this tantric symbology. i'm not sure our culture gets anywhere by these terminologies at the level of psychosexual phenomenology or whatever you wanna call it.

[Caprinardo Delirio]

so drew,

have you read this one?

http://www.lulu.com/content/221798