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Humberto
07-10-2004, 11:42 PM
http://www.prisonplanet.com/analysis_nunez.html

Government is a Pagan Cult: And We’ve All Been Drinking The Kool Aid

By Humberto Nunez

Government is a pagan cult. When you join the Armed Forces, the first thing they do is shave your head. Just like in many cults, where they shave your head. The Army also uses sleep deprivation in Boot Camp, just like many cults do, to brainwash their people.

Secret Service Agents are willing to “die for their beliefs” (in defense of The President: their cult leader).

Many men say that they would “die for their country”. This is a form of pagan Martyrdom for the pagan cult State.

Many today say that “religion has caused more war… “ and blah blah blah.

But the fact is that governments send out draft cards, not churches. Governments started WWI and WWII, not religion. In fact, during times of peace governments hate religion because religion is the governments’ #1 competition for allegiance, and during times of war, governments use religion for their own agenda.

Another similarity to cults: FBI Agents even dress similar to Mormons, and have the same type of haircuts. Many cults have a dress code of some kind, just like in the Army, and even in the Corporate world.

When you join the Moonies you would probably end up selling flowers for them, and the Moonies will keep all the profits from the work you do. When you work today, the pagan cult State takes your profits (in the form of income taxes), and they won’t let you leave their cult (the State). If you attempt to not pay your taxes, you would be arrested and branded a criminal.

Now, I did a little research into the symptoms and signs of a cult and found these 5 Warning Signs: (to distinguish a cult from a ‘normal’ religion)

1. The organization is willing to place itself above the law; this is probably the most important characteristic.
2. The leadership dictates, (rather than suggests) important personal (as opposed to spiritual) details of followers’ lives, such as whom to marry, what to study in college, etc.
3. The leader sets forth ethical guidelines members must follow but from which the leader is exempt.
4. The group is preparing to fight a literal, physical Armageddon against other human beings.
5. The leader regularly makes public assertions that he or she knows is false and/or the group has a policy of routinely deceiving outsiders.

Now, let’s break these down one by one.

1. The organization is willing to place itself above the law; this is probably the most important characteristic.

Example: Death Penalty.

What is the purpose and intention behind State sponsored Death Penalty?

The primary purpose and intention behind State sponsored Death Penalty is not to deter crime, nor is it to be tough on crime.

To understand the purpose and intent behind this, we must study psychology, in particular, behavioral psychology; like in training a dog. To train a dog, one must use behavioral modification techniques. For example, the primary purpose and intention behind anti-smoking laws is to get you to obey the State. Before you can train a dog to kill, you must first train the dog to obey simple commands; like sit, and roll over. The same is true of recycling laws. Glass bottles are actually much safer for the environment than plastic bottles. The primary purpose and intention behind recycling laws is not to save the environment, it is a behavioral modification technique to get the people to obey the Government.

Now, back to State sponsored death penalty laws.

The primary purpose and intention behind Death Penalty laws is to get people used to the idea that the State is above the law. It is illegal for people to kill and to murder. With State sponsored Death Penalty laws, the State is Above the Law.

There you have symptom #1:

1. The organization is willing to place itself above the law; this is probably the most important characteristic.

2. The leadership dictates, (rather than suggests) important personal (as opposed to spiritual) details of followers’ lives, such as whom to marry, what to study in college, etc.

I can give a dozen examples of this behavioral modification ploy of cults. Recycling and anti-smoking laws were two examples I explained above. Dictating the behavior of Americans today is pervasive throughout our entire society.

3. The leader sets forth ethical guidelines members must follow but from which the leader is exempt.

We can see this today very clearly when it comes to violence. Many Americans today are forced to attend Anger Management Courses while at the same time the State uses violence (like in the Iraq War).

4. The group is preparing to fight a literal, physical Armageddon against other human beings.

Three words: War on Terrorism

5. The leader regularly makes public assertions that he or she knows is false and/or the group has a policy of routinely deceiving outsiders.

I don’t think that last symptom (of a cult) needs further explanation.

Well there you have it; the Government has all of the 5 major signs/symptoms of being a cult.

For the philosophy behind The Nature of Government I recommend this read:

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/nature_gov.htm

It is A MUST READ for all Americans and all freedom loving peoples of the world.

It is so good that if I start quoting from it, I’ll just end up pasting the entire article here in my article. So I’ll just leave it at that and say you the reader here MUST READ IT.

Now, the atheist says “Show me God.”

I say, “Show me government.”

I do not believe in the existence of government. Now hold your horses, I know that sounds silly at first, but let me explain.

Let’s say you were on a ship full of people. Now the people in that ship went insane and started hallucinating, thinking that you were an alien from another planet and that you must be killed. If those people on that ship killed you, you would really be dead, literally. Just because of the reality of the consequences of that mass hallucination (you being dead) does not prove that you were really an alien. It just proves that the people were suffering from mass hallucination.
So, just because the so-called ‘government’ can arrest you and put you in jail, that does not prove the existence of government. It just proves mass hallucination.

Let’s start again now:

The atheist says “Show me God.”

I say, “Show me government.”

Now don’t tell me the White House. That is not ‘government’. That is a building.

That’s just as if I were to show an atheist a church (a building), that would not prove the existence of God.

Ok now, you might show me a Police Officer in uniform, and offer proof on how he can actually arrest me, to prove the existence of Government.

Well, I can show an atheist a priest in uniform, but that would not prove the existence of God. Even if Congress gave priests the authority to arrest people on the streets that would still not prove the existence of God to an atheist. Just like a cop in uniform does not prove the existence of government, it only proves that the people are suffering from mass hallucination.

People today are obsessed with the laws of the pagan-cult State. The Constitution, the Bill of Rights, etc. etc, people meditating day and night on the ‘laws’ of the pagan-cult State, as opposed to the Law of God.

Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, these men have become cult figures.

They have replaced Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Noah, Moses, as the men of God to be pondered on and studied.

Sacrifice for Protection

In ancient times, people performed human sacrifice to their pagan false gods for ‘Protection’ from the gods. They believed their gods also played the role of ‘Provider’ by performing human sacrifice for rain for their crops for example.

Today, the US Fed. Govt. is asking for “Sacrifice for Protection’. The State today is now saying that the people must sacrifice their Freedoms and Liberties for ‘Protection’ from terrorism (demons, evil spirits, etc.) and that the State will then ‘Provide’ them with safety.

This is metaphorically a form of human sacrifice. It is not a human sacrifice where you literally kill someone (like in the Death Penalty), but it is a “human” sacrifice. I mean, the State is not asking the animals to sacrifice their Freedoms and Liberties, it is asking us humans, so it is a “human” sacrifice as opposed to an ‘animal’ sacrifice in that sense. Also, there is death involved; the death of our Freedoms and Liberty.

By the way, State sponsored Death Penalty is another form of human sacrifice for the pagan-cult State, and State sponsored abortion is a form of child sacrifice for this pagan-cult State.

Black Robes: Judges and Devil worshippers

Judges wear Black Robes just like Devil worshippers. The Judges’ Desk is the altar of baal. They bring men tied up in handcuffs before the altar (Judges’ desk) and these men are for the human sacrifice and the entire court proceeding is a satanic ritual.

Sounds crazy? Is it a coincidence that the ‘language of the court’ is Latin (ex: Habeas Corpus) just like the ‘language of a Catholic Exorcism’ is also in Latin? Lawyers speak Latin in the court room just like Priests use Latin when performing exorcisms when you have a ‘case’ of full DEMONIC POSSESSESION.

Also, the same type of ‘respect’ a Priest would expect from a visitor to his church is the same type of respect a Judge expects in his court room. There’s even a penalty for disobeying this ‘respect’; it’s called “Contempt of Court”.

Another psychological conditioning behavior modification technique being applied on the American Public is this: Television shows like Judge Judy, Judge Joe, all these People’s Courts television shows. The primary intention and purpose behind these so-called Court Room Justice shows is to condition the public to get used to entering a court room with NO Trial by Jury. In not one of any of these types of shows do you ever see a Trial by Jury; that is not a mistake, it is intentional, and by design.

I can go on and on with this article and offer a million more details.

To conclude, if the US Govt. plans to attack Iran, North Korea, etc. in the future.

And if there is the possibility that this War on Terrorism might lead to WWIII.

Then, that is nothing but pagan-cult MASS SUICIDE.

And the US Govt. is a pagan cult, and WE’VE ALL BEEN DRINKING THE KOOL AID.

Now, some readers of this article (especially neoconservatives) would automatically brand me an Anarchist. I am not an Anarchist, what I amquestioning is the role of government. According to the Founding Fathers of America, the role of government was to protect your Individual Rights. NOT TO TAKE THEM AWAY.

And finally, if the people will not serve God, they will end up serving and being slaves of government. I am sure many Christians would believe this, and even some followers of eastern philosophies; for this is a form of 'Bad Karma'.

And, if man will not serve God, then woman will not serve man.

This is also a form of 'bad karma'.

===end of article===

Hello all, this is my first post.
The article was written by me although the website is not mine (they posted my article)
So I did not break the Copyright rules here.
I am not a writer but I am curious as to any reaction here from Open Minded people.
I have another interesting article but it is extremely politically incorrect and offensive to many people. I would like to share it with you people here in the future out of curiosity to any responses here.
By the way: I am a political atheist; I do not Vote. I have no faith whatsoever in the political process/system. I am not an Anarchist though.
I do not do drugs anymore. I did as a teenager.
Now I only smoke cigarretes (which I would like to quit but cannot or will not) and drink coffee. That's it.
I do not mean to offend anyone with this article.
I wrote it in 5 minutes and do not have the patience nor the spirit of a 'writer' so it is not perfect and I did not want to make it too long so sometimes it needs further explanation when people ask me questions about it.

Again, I do not mean to offend anyone with this article. I am just curious as to any responses here from Open Minded people.
I hope more people join this Forum.

Gift Horse
07-11-2004, 05:26 AM
Hello Humberto,

You have some interesting ideas.....however your one sentence:

"And, if man will not serve God, then woman will not serve man"

has caused me to shut down ANY interest I may have had in reading and dicussing your article.

Humberto
07-11-2004, 07:10 AM
Hello Gift Horse.

Gift Horse, that does not make sense to me. How can you throw away an entire article just because you do not like one sentence?

That is like saying: Adolf Hitler once said that 2+2=4. Now since Adolf Hitler was evil and offensive, I no longer can accept the fact that 2+2=4, so it must be a lie that 2+2=4.

sidecross
07-11-2004, 07:26 AM
The quoted passage by Gift Horse is a foundation statement and it does sway a credibility question. By the way, Kurt Godel's Incompleteness Theorem proved that 2+2=4 is not absolute.

Humberto
07-11-2004, 07:57 AM
sidecross:

Well the article was about Government being a Cult.

You guys now are talking about the existence of God and now I will answer you.
I actually met God.
Have you ever met God ?
I met Him. The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob
And Jesus the Christ IS the Messiah
The bible is 100% the Word of God
I know for a fact because I met Him
I met God

sidecross
07-11-2004, 12:35 PM
"…Have you ever met God? I met Him."

I have met many, they were both female and male; they were of different species, and some were quite other.

mil0
07-11-2004, 01:06 PM
Humberto good work! I hope you post your other article here regardless of how politically incorrect it is. I even posted this one in my forum so my readers could see it.

Sidecross: So you are saying there is more than one god? How are you so sure that what you met was god and not just an entity with greater spiritual presence than yourself.

[ July 11, 2004, 02:12 PM: Message edited by: mil0 ]

Charlie
07-12-2004, 01:11 AM
Humberto:

Some interesting ideas, but your central thesis is really not that radical....Meriam Webster's first definition of the word Government is:

1 : the act or process of governing; specifically : authoritative direction or control

Just think of the literal words "Pledge of Allegiance."

Any government influences a high degree of control over it's constituency--it's just a matter of how much of the dogma you´re legally allowed to disagree with.

daniel
07-12-2004, 04:06 AM
Humberto: "The bible is 100% the Word of God
I know for a fact because I met Him
I met God"

I probably shouldn't bother with this. While you may have had personally convincing experiences, so have other people, and it is good to remember that other people's convincing experiences have as much validity as yours, even if they contradict your assertions. The way you state your cases makes me think of all the senseless zealotry that has led to so much senseless destruction.

The perspective of Carl Jung, that the Old Testament represents a process of Jahweh coming-to-self-consciousness through a dialectical relationship with humanity makes much more sense than a statement that the Bible is "100 % the word of God." If the Bible is "100 %" the word of God, then God is often an asshole and an idiot. I suggest reading Jung's essay "Answer to Job" and actually thinking about it, rather than seeking to cram your "I know for a fact" attitude into other people's minds.

dragonfly
07-12-2004, 04:20 AM
Your article made this spiritual pagan laugh.

A small point of clarification: You ARE on drugs, my friend. Even though the "government cult" does not ban them, tobacco and caffeine are powerfully addictive drugs. Your own inability to quit smoking cigarettes is proof of that.

toppersbazaar
07-12-2004, 09:13 AM
Humberto.....I am "out there" and the more i learn the less i know....you on the other hand are "out there" but in a totaly different way....It's like the sum of my knowledge now could not fit neatly into any one book or bible...it's strange how clear cut and clean it is to you...all this 100% business 100% this and 100% that.....also I am slightly offended by the female serving male statement but I also feel no where near as "liberal" as most on this board sound.....I am only conservative because i look at society in terms of "efficiency" what would be the most "efficient" form of government? How can people be governed in order to have each person reach their FULL potential?..In every area of life not just consciousness expansion? Note I am only conservative when it comes to the fiscal end of the government....."Make it easy and people will take it easy" Topper
The old testament is kinda ridiculous at this point...Back then it was like a Diaper for mankind...granted mankind is only in Kindergarten now but it can at least go to the bathroom by itself

Humberto
07-12-2004, 02:23 PM
mil0: thanks
Although the article is far from perfect, I hope there is some stuff in the article that can open some people's minds by breaking down somewhat the brainwashing from government propaganda. Although there are some people out there who are so brainwashed and blind that nothing you say to them can open their eyes as to how evil the US Govt. is, especially many neo conservatives. I actually used to be a conservative Republican myself many years ago and looking back now I was completely blind to the truth about politics.

These neo conservatives today will just call you an America Hater.
What bothers me is that we all know that (for example) that the Chinese Govt. is repressive, that goes without saying. But many people think that the US Govt. is good. That is what bothers me.

I actually have no intention to influence the political process, my only intention is to expose evil. That's it.

===

Charlie: yes. I agree 100%

Humberto
07-12-2004, 02:24 PM
Hey Daniel, I actually found your site by listening to the Art Bell Show.

Although I knew that we would probably disagree on many issues, you actually seemed like a pretty cool guy to me.
You seemed very analytical to me while listening to you like a typical 'white guy' (I don't mean that in a bad way; there is no tone of voice in internet communication) It just made me think about race and stuff like that.

Daniel and everyone else, if it makes you feel any better: Christian Forums actually ban me very quick. If this was a Christian Forum some of my posts would had been deleted already and eventually I end up being permanently banned. Especially when I say that America is Babylon. When I say that I get banned right away.

Humberto
07-12-2004, 02:26 PM
dragonfly: Yes I understand that I do not live a good testimony. That is one reason that has made me feel very reluctant to talk about these things.
I am actually very scared of God.
When you tell someone that you actually met God, people expect you after that to live happily ever after in this world. And the fact that I am addicted to smoking cigarettes right now is not a good testimony.

After I met God I actually did live happily 'ever after' for about 5 years.
Until I backslid (christian terminology)

I than lived with a woman for 3 years and had a daughter and I broke up with her and ended up paying child support to a married woman for 7 years without any Visitation Rights of my daughter.
What I went through was a Living Hell and after 6 years of that I couldn't take it anymore and I was close to death.

The Blessings and Cursings of God in the Book of Deuteronomy became very real in my life.

I than prayed to God to free me from that slavery from Babylon and Thank God after 7 years of that Living Hell her husband did me that favor and adopted my daughter to free me and I signed the papers and am now a Free Man.

America almost killed me, almost completely destroyed me, and now I pray to God that He punish America and that He completely destroy her from off the face of the earth.

Humberto
07-12-2004, 02:26 PM
toppersbazaar: I do not have it in me to give you advice right now about getting right with God.
All I can tell you is that a real Christian Pastor, a real man of God can help you much more than I can.

But it comes down to you. You yourself must seek God's Face and pray to Him that He lead you in the right direction, to the right church, because there are many false churches out there.

toppersbazaar
07-12-2004, 10:12 PM
Humberton...dig it...I've been reading Alex Jones and all of his contemporeries for years...talk about a doorway into a whole new world (bad world) I have a newsletter and here is a small part of ther last issue

"without having the intellectual capacity to understand them let alone put them in context. For example, the Bushes have deep ties with the Bin Ladens. Of couse one of the richest families in America is going to have ties to one of the richest Saudi families. It’s business. Is it corrupt? Probably. Is it Any different than The richest and most powerful Germans or the French entertaining Sadaam year after year? Not at all. Some people call them conspiracies or secret societies. We all need to grow up and see the wizards behind the curtains. I call it business as usual. The harsh fact is that good ‘ol "Skull and Bones" Kerry has his own "evil" rich connections in the closet. It’s how the elite do business in the world. News flash folks that how the world works the “super-rich” are pretty much above governments. The Bilderbergs, the Bohemian Grove, the tri-lateral comission....on and on they go the real governments to an extent. They operate in a vacuum of their own. I will get into their true nature in another issue."
ps Hum, you should like my "worldview essay" toppersbazaar.com

daniel
07-13-2004, 03:50 AM
I went through the realization phase of the negative occult aspects of the current ruling elite, Bohemian Grove, Skull and Bones, etc. I have no doubt that they are in (conscious or subconscious) league with various forces that Steiner described as Ahrimanic. Actually one of the only aspects of this that still interests me is to what extent it is conscious or only subconscious - does Cheney know he is an agent of occult powers? I doubt that Bush knows this. Did the SS agents and scientists incorporated into the CIA in the post-war years know their occult background? Did they create some kind of integration of Thule and Freemasonry?

The thing is, you can ponder this stuff all you want, but it is ultimately of no help or use to you or anyone whatsoever. The fixation on it ends up trapping a lot of people in a negative vibration of consciousness - a kind of paranoid vibe. In fact, the universe has also conspired to allow you to exist as you are, in this moment. There has been a tremendous paranoid conspiracy engineered to allow you to love and live and self-liberate, if you choose to do so. When you recognize that, you begin to realize that "obstacles are part of the path," and that suffering is to be valued, as conflict and suffering are in fact the forces that intensify consciousness and help us to evolve.

Rather than dwelling on the negative, what can we do in the present moment that is of positive benefit for the world?

toppersbazaar
07-13-2004, 01:52 PM
Bingo Daniel...It is a complete waste of time and energy..it's almost like when you delve into it you can feel your energy become woven into the whole negative force itself. It becomes a real monster in your life (dream) and you feed this monster the more you "focus" on it and then it just grows until takes you over (my neighbor near my cabin thinks a Sattelite is trained on his earth ship home because he has a newsletter all about it......he could be right...does that sound fun?)...so many waste products of the whole genre' run around paranoid, drooling and babbling....
It's beyond our control and Negative...your comment about Cheney is right on also I too wonder to what extent Bush, Rumsfield and Cheney are hip to their puppetness. I believe those involved are only shown the true depth of the sickness of it only when the sickest feel THEY are sick enough ? get it. That said Bush Jr seems the most innocent of all. I swear after the prison mess i felt it in his voice that he was then realizing what he was involved in....he sounded like a man who realized he had been had. Sad for these people...to have billions before your 21 ...to get the call bringing you in....and to eventually become a full fledged evil old geezer playing monopoly with the planet and all of it's souls. Again If you are not aware of it I suggest you just skip over the entire subject...it's BAD ENERGY...In fact the link on this board should be taken off<~~~Just kidding....kind of
PS Rummy and cheney seem totaly aware...I mean c'mon what is the REAL power structure in that white house...Cheney+Rummy then Bush

Humberto
07-14-2004, 07:24 AM
toppersbazaar and daniel:

Although I do think that it is very good to be aware of the evil that the government is doing and is planning, Daniel makes a good point.

If you explained the NWO Conspiracy and the Federal Reserve Banking Conspiracy to a homeless person (although true), I don't think that that info would do a homeless person much good.