problems with salvia

[Shaun]

I was having no luck breaking through on plain leaf salvia, so I made a 10x or so extraction. I've smoked three moderately conservative amounts of it three times now, and every time a singsong voice in my head starts chanting some nonsense thing over and over again. Everything I see eyes open turns into some kind of weird pop-up book. Once this starts it takes me alot of effort to break free. By this time I'm already coming down. It's starting to become frustrating that this keeps happening.

Any advice on how to overcome this and have a more meaningful experience?

[Lowlight]

Its all about how you prepare and the method you use. Your Set is important as well.

1. Try brushing you teeth and gums, then wash out with Listerine for a good 40 secs or so.

2. Get about 8 fresh or rehydrated leaves and chew them for AT LEAST 20 mins. Chewing the leaves grounds you much more than just smoking them and lets the plant/human relationship unfold in a more powerful and meaningful way.

3. Spit it out, them have some dry leaf in a bong ready to smoke - take 2 hits without a breath in between holding each breath for about 25-30secs or as long as you can manage.

4. Then Lie down in the dark with YOUR EYES SHUT - opening your eyes fucks your visionary experience up on Salvia as you are overlaying 2 realities which seriously messes with the mind.

5. Implore the plant to show you what it has to show, or ask it a specific question. Be respectful, remember you are in someone elses environment!

6. If the dry leaf doesnt push you through, try 5x extract (1 hit to start with). Salvia is all about finding the level at which you can work with the plant. 10 x is usually as waste of time in terms of trying to learn something meaningful as it is too powerful to allow a measured exchange between your self and the plant. High strength extracts are like puttimg your head next to a giant blow touch, its a crazy experience but it's far from educational in a meaningful way.

Also, if you can handle it without feeling it to be too 'newagey', pray to the plant in the days before the experience. She hears everything...

[wolfkitten]

Wow Lowlight, i never heard anyone recommend chewing it before. i will have to try that.. After hearing so many people give such glowing reviews, i was fairly disappointed in the various times i've smoked extract. i got a strong internal visual the first time, but no 'insight' or anything much different from decent weed - less so, really.

Tho given some of the experiences i've been having with just pot, lately, i'm less certain i want/need to go pushing other boundaries..