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Humberto
08-16-2004, 03:05 PM
Daniel and everyone here:
I don't know why but I feel like sharing this with you all. It is a bible revelation of chapter 9 of the Book of Revelation (about the locusts)

For centuries, many Christians have been praying to God to understand the Book of Revelation.
It has been sealed by God and can only be revealed by God Himself.
No man with his own intelligence can unseal these Mysteries.

I have sent this via emails to various Christians that I have found on the internet with websites about bible prophecy.
The only positive response that I received was from Brother Stair:
http://www.overcomerministry.org/listen_live.htm

All other Christians and everyone else who believes responded that they are expecting actual physical locust demons to appear upon the Earth.
I am sorry but that is completely absurd.
Extraterrestrial alien demon locusts will never appear on the earth.

This is a parable Mystery sealed by God and it's true meaning can only be revealed by God Himself

here it is:

If this interests you please take the time one day when you have some free time and desire to read this please:

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Locusts of Revelation - (Coming Martial Law to the United States ???)

God bless you in Yeshua Name.

It is possible that God through His mercy has revealed to me some of the meaning of Chapter 9 of Revelation.

If this is false then I pray to God in Yeshua Name that He show me the true meaning of this chapter because I do not want to preach any type of false doctrine. So I ask that you pray about this in Yeshua Name and ask Him if this is true or not and if this is false than please pray for me that Yeshua show me the truth about this.

I am not saying that this is what I believe 100%. I am asking that you look at this and pray about it in Yeshua Name and ask Him if this is true. Please do not misunderstand me if you disagree for I want to seek the Truth in these matters and my intention here is an analysis and to seek the Truth in these matters:

Revelation 9
1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.
2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.
3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.
7 And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.
8 And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.
9 And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.
10 And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.
11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.
12 One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter.
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Revelation 9
1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.

(the star falling from heaven is satan the fallen angel)

2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.

(the smoke covering the light is a smoke of deception covering the Truth. It is a political smoke. Why do I say that? As you will see the locusts represent a plague of war covering the land and war is political. So: this smoke might be be this 'war on terrorism' that is spreading throughout the whole world right now and might even be used very soon to persecute the Christians.)

3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.

(Throughout the bible; especially in the old testament: locusts represent a plague covering the land. These locusts in chapter 9 of Revelation are not physical locusts; they are symbolic for a plague covering the land. And since these locusts are war-like locusts: they are symbolic of: A PLAGUE OF WAR COVERING THE LAND.)

4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.

There will be no Carpet Bombing in this 'war' for it is commanded that they hurt not the grass of the earth nor any green tree neither any tree.

(This next part has confused me for a very long time. I have been praying to God in Yeshua Name for many years now to reveal this to me because I could never understand this part. It is now possible that the Lord has revealed this to me through His mercy sake. Now: Have you ever heard of a war where the army is instructed not to kill the opposing enemy? Ofcourse not. In every war the army's goal is to kill the opposing enemy. Except in times in the middle of battle where the enemy forces surrender and you take prisoners. But still, on the onset of that war the first goal is to kill the enemy.
In this plague of war covering the land this 'army' is instructed NOT to kill.
What kind of a war is that?
It could be a 'war' (for lack of a better term) of some type of Martial Law where the army is instructed to take captives and put them in concentration camps (so in that situation the 'army's' goal is NOT to kill but to take captive) as in a civilian population': some sort of Martial Law.
Also, this 'war' is against ONLY those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
So this war is not against the true Christians.
How could this be?
In the Book of Jeremiah, God told His prophet Jeremiah to tell Israel that because of their sin that He was going to punish them by making them slaves of Babylon. And furthermore: God told Jeremiah to tell Israel not to rebel against their slave masters; which were ordained by God to punish Israel for their sins, but to accept this punishment from God of slavery and not to rebel. Furthermore: Gold told Jeremiah His prophet to tell Israel that if they disobeyed His instructions by rebelling against their slave masters (Babylon) that God would have Israel destroyed for disobeying.
So: this message from God to His people is very specific.
So: any person who calls himself a Christian and also non-believers who would one day take up arms against the United States Government are disobeying God's will.
So: a 'true' Christian would not take up arms in any type of attempt to overthrow the United States Government.
That is why this war; this plague of war covering the land (locusts) is against only those who have not the seal of God in their foreheads.)

7 And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.
8 And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.
9 And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.
10 And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.

(Again: these locusts are war-like locusts because it is symbolic of a plague of war covering the land.
It is also very interesting that these locusts have faces as they were the faces of men.
The first Beast of Daniel: the lion with eagle wing's (being England and the United States) after the wings were plucked (depiction of the American Revolution) the eagle wings (being America) a man's heart was given to it.
This is a very interesting depiction. Because in the beginning of America it is described as a man's heart was given to it. But after the fall (of America) (after America turns her back on God) it now says (in Revelation) that their faces were as the faces of men. So now it has only the outward image as in appearing to be as a man (so-called human rights, rights of man, etc.) but it is only the outward image because in it's heart it is now not a defender of man's rights (but only having the appearance as if it had)

Now: the hair as the hair of women is an accurate description of modern-day feminism (which is evil and satanic)

the stings in their tails (that 'might' be a description of the like rubber bullets or pepper guns that some cops use today against rioting crowds)

11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.
12 One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter.

(Again: satan has now taken control of this army; military, government (of the United States) and the United States is now under full demonic possession)

Please pray about this and ask God in Yeshua Name if this is true or if there is any truth to this.
Again, I have no intention in any way whatsoever to preach any type of false doctrine. So I ask the Lord in Yeshua Name to tell me if this is true or not; for only God Himself in Yeshua Name can reveal the truth on these matters of these great mysteries of God and He will reveal them to His saints at the time appointed when it is in His Will.

Please pray about this and ask God in Yeshua Name if this is true and please respond to this email in Yeshua Name and tell me what you think of this interpretation.

God bless you in Yeshua Name,
-Humberto

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FURTHER CONFIRMATION:

EXCERPT FROM:
IS AMERICA BABYLON?
http://www.markswatson.com/BAB.htm

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The KING OF BABYLON THE NATION, is presented in the Scripture AS THE ANTICHRIST (LUCIFER). THIS KING, OF THE NATION BABYLON THE GREAT, goes forth and conquers and then RULES OVER THE NATIONS OF THE WORLD. Check Isaiah 14:4-6, Jeremiah 51:25; 44; Habakkuk 1:6-10; 2:4-5; Revelation 13:7-8; 17:18; 18:24, and you will see this. It is THE KING OF BABYLON in every single instance that GOES FORTH TO CONQUER AND TO DESTROY AND RULE THE NATIONS. It is ALWAYS BABYLON THE NATION AND THE CITY, from whence he gets his POWER TO DO IT. It is BABYLON THE NATION, through its deceptive front THE UNITED NATIONS, that rules the world FROM THE GREAT CITY BABYLON, which is NEW YORK CITY. That is why the UN is located in NEW YORK. It is no accident. It is not a coincidence!!
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Revelation 9
11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.
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p.s.
Revelation 9
5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.

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5 months.
Why 5 months ?
This prophecy of the locusts is describing the last 5 months in the life of the United States of America

It will end by the destruction of America-Babylon

Humberto
08-16-2004, 03:22 PM
for any non-christians here
a bit more explanation about 'their facess were as the faces of men' part that I spoke of earlier:

Daniel 7
2 Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea.
3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.
4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it.
5 And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.
6 After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.
7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

it continues further ...

the lion is England
the eagle wings is America
the leopard is United Europe
the bear is Russia

the 4th is a combination of several nations under some international globalism (UN)

Daniel 7
4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it.

the 1st beast: lion with eagle wings is the UK + the USA
lion being the UK
eagle is America

the eagle wings being plucked is an accurate description of the American Revolution

... and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it.

This is the ONLY Beast (Government) which has anything (body part etc.) of a man
This is a description of human rights, rights of man, individual rights, freedom, etc. etc. which was a hallmark of America itself

In the beginning of America it is described as:

... and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it.

But now in Revelation, it's military/government is described as:

Revelation 9
7 And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.

Now after America turns her back on God
It is described as:

... and their faces were as the faces of men.

That is why I said in the previous post:

It is also very interesting that these locusts have faces as they were the faces of men.
The first Beast of Daniel: the lion with eagle wing's (being England and the United States) after the wings were plucked (depiction of the American Revolution) the eagle wings (being America) a man's heart was given to it.
This is a very interesting depiction. Because in the beginning of America it is described as a man's heart was given to it. But after the fall (of America) (after America turns her back on God) it now says (in Revelation) that their faces were as the faces of men. So now it has only the outward image as in appearing to be as a man (so-called human rights, rights of man, etc.) but it is only the outward image because in it's heart it is now not a defender of man's rights (but only having the appearance as if it had)


Note: The only beast (government) with anything of a man in it is America

This is further proof that this locust military is of America

Humberto
08-16-2004, 03:37 PM
last note:

there seems to be a correlation between the 7 Trumpets in the Book of Judges of the Fall of Jericho and the 7 Trumpets of the Book of Revelation

there is alot of spiritual symbolism in the old testament that are for spiritual lessons for believers

The Promised Land symbolizes the coming New Heavans and the New Earth on the 2nd Coming of the Messiah

slavery to Egypt = slavery to sin, slavery to the world, etc. before knwoing God

blood on the door posts in Egypt to prevent the Destroying Angel from killing all of the firtborns in the house symbolized the Blood of Jesus

Moses was not allowed by God to enter the Promised Land
Why?

Because Moses represented the law and no man can enter the Kingdom of Heaven through good works (only by grace)

So after Moses died God gave charge to Joshua
The original hebrew text of the name of Joshua is Yeshua (the same name as Jesus in hebrew) so the english translators than invented the english name Joshua which pronounced is close to the hebrew name Yeshua

Joshua entering the Promised Land symbolized the actual Yeshua Jesus the Messiah that only through Him one can enter the Promised Land

So as I said there is a correlation between Joshua and the 7 Trumpets of the Fall of Jericho and the 7 Trumpets of the Book of Revelation

psychedelicsmoke
08-31-2004, 11:35 AM
you mentioned new york city as Babylon but I think Babylon used to be in the area what is now called Iraq, which even put that way still makes sense to what your saying- if you view it as the power we get from iraq is oil and we go forth and conquer to rule nations of the world,

forteanajones
09-04-2004, 05:12 PM
Humberto, thanks for your interesting analysis. I'm not sure I have an opinion on it but I'll keep it in mind.

There's also this other literal interpretation (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3628328.stm) of the various locust/plague prophecies. Maybe the Africa region is destined to experience five months of this natural invasion, and maybe the resultant food crisis will trigger international support and lead to more unexpected variables in our present US presidential situation:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3628328.stm
UN appeal to stop locust 'plague'

By Jannat Jalil
BBC News

Fresh appeals are being made for urgently needed international aid as swarms of locusts continue to spread across west Africa.

The leaders of 12 nations have agreed a plan to fight the locusts.

But a United Nations agency warns that it needs tens of millions of dollars in extra funding to stop a plague.

The Food and Agriculture Organization says locusts have caused significant crop damage in several countries and the situation could worsen.

It is warning that without urgent action this month the locusts could wreak havoc across west Africa.

The locusts are multiplying at an alarming rate and many crops are coming close to harvest.

In the past couple of months, huge swarms of locusts have moved from northern Africa to western African countries, in what is the worst such crisis to hit the region in 15 years.

Food shortages feared

By responding quickly with pesticides, Arab countries managed to contain the damage.

But in western Africa, where governments do not have the same resources to prevent the locusts from breeding, the situation is getting worse day by day.

Many people in west Africa are small farmers and, if no way is found to stop the insects from breeding and spreading, there could be serious food shortages.

West African leaders have pledged to co-operate with each other to combat the pests.

They have appealed to international donors to help them by giving them pesticide and planes as soon as possible.

The president of Mali and his cabinet said this week that they would forego a month's salary, so the money could be used to help fight the locusts.

But the FAO says only substantial and immediate international help can avert a crisis.

It says of the $100m it has repeatedly appealed for, it has only received or been pledged one-third of that amount.

wildwood
09-23-2004, 05:47 PM
In times past I have tried to interpret Biblical prophecy. After a number of years i have come to the conclusion that Middle Eastern prophecy relates to the Middle East, just as the Hopi prophecy relates to America. Here is my take: Gog and Magog relate to the modern country of Turkey: it has the most powerful Muslim army in the world and is a member of NATO). This country will invade Iraq in a few years. Once Turkey (Ottoman Empire) controlled all of Iraqi. Once America has lost enough soldiers and the public demand the withdrawal of troops Turkey will invade, I guess saying that it is to stop terrorism. Once Turkey is in Iraqi then Israel will be under treat. This is when Revelations will kick in big time. I believe this will occur in the next 7 years or so most likely before.

daniel
09-24-2004, 03:11 AM
Best understanding of the Book of Rev I have found is the Jungian interpretation made by Edward Eddinger in "Archetypes of the Apocalypse." The Jungian concept is that archetypes exist in the collective unconscious, and constellate or crystallize in our human reality in phases or stages - finally dropping into our reality at the only possible moment that they can take manifestation. The Apocalypse, as a psychic archetype, represents the "momentous moment of the coming to self-realization of human consciousness" through the dynamic unification of opposites. The Book of Rev is almost a Tantric text, unifying opposites - so the Whore of Babylon drinks the "disgusting filth of her fornication" out of a "Golden Cup," the precious vessel of the Higher Self.

My own take on the locusts with human faces is that they are actually the "talking heads" on CNN and FOX. The media is the plague, devouring reality itself, alienated from all human goals or compassionate aims.

nanouk
09-26-2004, 08:02 AM
daniel wrote:
"The media is the plague, devouring reality itself, alienated from all human goals or compassionate aims."

amen.

respect,

nanouk

Halfglass
09-28-2004, 12:14 AM
Daniel; yeah "talking heads" are the locusts...with the "sting in the tail" (Revelations 9 (somewhere)) being the information coming through the cable. (The writer may have had a vision of the earliest televisions complete with the rabbit ears antennas looking perfectly insectlike.)

julie
10-15-2004, 06:59 PM
In the book of Revelation there are a lot of symbolic meanings to things we don't understand. I don't believe that the meaning of the locusts refers to a physical war with guns, missles etc but a war of words. The locusts are indeed the bringers of darkness, darkness of minds, blotting out the truth and tempting the lusts of the flesh.
The propaganda that they bring is seen by the majority of the world as truthful (coming from the two horned lamb that speaks like a dragon) but in reality it has a sting (like the sting of the scorpion). The woman's hair is describing something enticing - hence the temptation of the world to follow.
Crowns represent kings or leaders. If a leader is deceived then his people will be deceived.
Breastplates of iron represent hardness of heart. Those who provide the propaganda don't have any sympathy for those who believe the lies and are taken in by them.
Sounds of the wings is the proliferation of the lies going forth, so much so that nothing else can be heard.
Power to hurt for five months may be the result of people taking up the new doctrine and finding out that they have been terribly deceived. Once they find out they are following a lie they can't turn back. This leads the way for another to come, much crueler who will make people believe that he has come to help them.
The reason that those sealed don't get harmed are because they have God's truth in them. They have put on the full armour of God (Ephesians chapter 6) and are walking in victory. They will never be harmed by anything Satan has to offer.
I don't think it is up to us to worry too much about what is going to happen but we should be concerned with revealing to the lost how to be prepared for the days that revelation speak about. The only way that they can be prepared is to repent, receive Jesus, read the Bible and pray. That is the only way.
Please, if you are a true spirit filled Christian beleive that the time is coming close when Jesus will return. We don't have time to waste trying to analyse the book of Revelation, we only have time to sow the seed of God's word. This is the true miracle we need to focus on and leave the rest to God.

Halfglass
10-15-2004, 07:40 PM
Julie Hi. I'm interested...are you a Christian who is ok with psychedelic exploration?