National-Anarchism

[Helter Skelter]

I was wondering: has Daniel, or anyone else here, ever heard of a political tendency called national-anarchism?

You can find their FAQ here:
http://www.national-anarchist.org/articles/FAQ.html

They seem to be inspired by many of the same sources as Daniel, for example, Julius Evola, Rudolf Steiner, Aleister Crowley, CS Jung, etc.

Here are some national-anarchist websites:
http://www.national-anarchist.org
http://www.rosenoire.org
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/National-Anarchist

I don't agree with their ethnic separatism, but they have some interesting esoteric and political ideas.

[Reverend]

Hey Helter-Skelter.

The National Anarchists are basically Nazis trying to appeal to anarchists in the same way that the old-timer "National Socialists" appealed to socialists. I don't know about those other dudes, but Carl Jung put his pen behind the Nazi line for a little while.
The Nazis definitely put some effort into reconstructing the old German religions, with their intensive archeology and reconstruction of the magical Aryan people. So I am not surprised that they have an appeal to put out to shaman-types. I like anarchists, socialists, and shamans alike: I'm just saying watch out for that "National" bit.

~-Rev.

[Rob P]

Also watch out for
the old 'Homeland' bit....

“An evil exists that threatens every man, woman and child of this great nation. We must take steps to insure our domestic security and protect our homeland."* Sound familiar?* Which of the following made the above quote:* President George W. Bush, U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft, Homeland Security Czar Tom Ridge, or Secretary of State Colin Powell?

The correct answer is none of the above.* In 1922 Adolph Hitler, writing about the creation of the German Gestapo wrote the above.* What Hitler knew and every totalitarian government knows is that the way to gain additional power and control over the people is to have a major crisis which makes the people feel insecure and unsafe.* The government then offers to protect the people from this “new” threat.* All that is required is for the people to give up some of their liberties and freedoms.

[daniel]

Since the Bush family made its fortune by financing the Nazi regime, the similiarities are not surprising.

[Helter Skelter]

Originally posted by Reverend:
[QB]Hey Helter-Skelter.

The National Anarchists are basically NazisNazi means national-socialist, and the national-anarchists are 'nationalists' meaning supporters of stateless ethnic separatism (as opposed to the nation-state) and 'socialists' in the sense that they are in favor of stateless mutual aid (as opposed to state-socialism). So in a sense I suppose you could call them national-socialists or 'Nazis'. But from what I've seen they're very critical of Hitler and statism in general.

[Arf]

I have to agree with reverand there,anarchists,socialists and shamans I can agree (to varying degrees with), but I cant with nationalists. The world doesnt need borders based on empires or race, (might sound like ol' hippy crap,but) we're all human,just different coloured shades of the same stick.

[drew hempel]

the National Anarchists have tapped into the Traditionalist Movement -- founded by Rene Guenon. His classic book is "The Reign of Quantity" but the latest analysis of Traditonalism -- Dr. Mark Sedgwick's book by OUP -- out a few years ago -- doesn't even focus on "The Reign of Quantity"!!

Nevertheless Guenon was already attacking people who took up his work under the same label "traditionalism" and then began promoting something quite different.

Too late -- Julius Evola -- and Schuon -- they're all covered well by Sedgwick.

Traditionalism was quite a little counter-cultural movement in the U.S. -- a romantic return to indigenous values through solidarity with Native cultures.

But unforunately the politics was a bit hazy and there was a history of fascist identity - as is the case with Jung, Heidegger, etc.

Professor Joscelyn Godwin's work is quite good on this as well -- "Arktos" on fascism occultism and then he put out a book on a French occult society -- the Brotherhood of Luxor -- that was vary influential in later politics.

Professor Bruce Lincoln has done some decent work on this as well -- even documenting how the CIA infilitrated a "back to the land" traditional indigenous culture in Guatemala in lieu of a genocide of the Mayans in the 1980s. Faster the devils are killed the quicker they go to heaven.

Professor Hugh B. Urban has been cranking out the best stuff of this as of late. He has two books in review right now and his academic essays are excellent -- verfiying the ties between French Freemasonic yoga with the Vedic practices.

Personally I think that Rene Guenon was right -- he was supported by Sri Ramana Maharshi by the way -- and Guenon died young in Egypt, claiming to be the victim of psychic vampire attacks.

Anarchism has a long history of occult ties -- Max Stirner was big into occult stuff and apparently Bakunin was a Freemason.

Once again Clive Prince and Lynn Picknett's book "The Stargate Conspiracy" is the best on this issue of esoteric politics but their latest book "The Sion Revelation" is a follow-up to the Stargate Conspiracy arguing that the E.U. is a direct result of occult politics.

Of course most people get the webejeebies considering this stuff is real.

Jim Keith published many excellent books on this topic of occult technology and politics over the space of a few years.

Then not only Jim Keith but his publisher Ron Bonds died mysteriously -- both in their early 40s.

The last book Keith wrote was "Biowarfare in the U.S." -- exposing CIA experiments with bacteria that were a similar strain to the cause of both deaths.

Stephen Knight, who wrote an excellent expose on Freemason power in the U.K., also died mysteriously a few years after the books publication -- after he shifted into eastern yoga training.

drew hempel, M.A.

[drew hempel]

Yesterday I was going to add that Peter Levenda's new series "Sinister Forces" is really an excellent expose on occult politics. I post on his forum and http://sinisterforces.info

I just went there and the latest poster stated they were reading Daniel's new book!

drew hempel, M.A.