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Humberto
07-15-2004, 01:53 PM
http://famguardian.org/Subjects/FamilyIssues/Feminism/FeminismIsSocialism/FeminismIsSocialism.htm

Message To All so-called Patriot Americans: You Can't Handle The Truth

1. Current US child support laws were actually invented in the former communist Soviet Union.

2. Current child support laws are communist infiltrations into the united states of America.

feminism as a military psychological weapon to control society

Amerika the 4th Reich:

Feminism is Socialism

First thing communist countries do is put the women to work to take over the family unit.
Increasing the workforce decreases wages - Economy101 - basic simple concepts of supply and demand. Women in the workforce doubled the workforce which decreased wages - (which was deceptively hidden thru deflation/the devaluing of the dollar).

(example: Let's say I own a factory. I have 500 employees knocking on my door everyday looking for work; I can then decrease wages and say, "If you don't like it there's the door. I have 500 ppl knocking on my door everyday looking for work."
On the other hand, if I cannot find enough ppl to work in my factory, I would have to increase wages (if I can still make a profit.)
Read again from top now and Continue)...

That is why in the 1950's, the avg. American family lived fine on one income but today the avg. American family needs two incomes just to get by.
Women in the workforce; feminism, just created more Taxpaying Slaves for The State resulting in the enslavement of the average American family unit.

Feminists are being used ... they have complained about power control freak men, husbands ... only to have it replaced by a Power-Control-Freak Totalitarian Police STATE.
Create a (so-called) problem just to justify the excuse for more power to solve it is the oldest Dictator ploy in the book.

Either Fathers own their children or the State owns the children. Law of the Jungle; women look for the best Provider -- when the best Provider becomes the STATE (i.e. the Welfare State), she then marries (into) the STATE and now the STATE OWNS her children.

"Who owns the youth owns the future!" - Adolf Hitler ... thus the US Dept. of (in)Human(e) Services; Division of Family Destruction. Either the man/husband/father is the Head of His Household ... or the STATE is the HEAD of your Household! Attack the Family Unit = weaken society ... thus more STATE CONTROL. Cut the Head (man of the household) out - thus more STATE CONTROL = own the children thus more STATE CONTROL - breed ignorant society thus more STATE CONTROL.

Feminism = weaker men; weaker men = LESS RESISTANCE thus more STATE CONTROL.
Patriarchy = Men own their wives ... it's called a family unit ... it's called morality.
Feminism/matriarchy = everyone having sex with each others' women while still remaining "friends" like a bunch of ANIMALS! Feminism/matriarchy = village = socialism = tribalism = lowest form of civilization = NO SURPLUS = Deficit = Slavery.

Patriarchy = family unit = efficiency = prosperity = Individual Rights = opposite of socialism = Surplus = free time for great works/inventions ... i.e. immigrants who come here and prosper come from patriarchal family structures because Patriarchy = family unit = efficiency.

Name me one time when Government Sponsored Propaganda was not Totalitarian in Nature. Feminism is Government Sponsored Propaganda - to weaken society; weaken the family unit; weaken it's men ... for more STATE CONTROL.
Multiculturalism = everyone different (immigrants not "Americanized") = NO UNITY amongst society = Divide & Conquer/LESS RESISTANCE thus more STATE CONTROL.
Homosexuality + abortion = population control.
Population control techniques deployed at Americans + allowing more illegal immigrants into the country = higher % (of society) of a working slave force - cheap labor.

Racial Eugenics in AmeriKa:
The #1 Group to benefit from Affirmatice Action are white women (thus) they are using mathematics to keep a large percentage of minority men DOWN
"He who rules mathematics rules the Universe"
This is the mathematics of racial eugenics.
This is the mathematics of the New World Order.
AmeriKa Today has 1/3 of the entire world's prison population and 78% of Amerikan prisoners are black men, and that is not even counting latino men.
If these black men were all let out of jail, there would not be enough jobs for them all.
The Shadow Government who is truly in Control of AmeriKa, wants and needs all these minority males in jail so that they can give half the good jobs to white women.
I am going to expose this evil to Non-White AmerIka. I am not against white people, I am against the evils of feminism, I am against having all these minority males living horrific lives in jail at the expense of the AmeriKan Feminist WHITE WOMAN.

Even after DNA proves that he is NOT the biological Father, Judges in the US still force thousands of men to pay child support even with the DNA evidence in front of them !!!
Thousands of men in California ALONE are being forced to pay child support AFTER DNA Proves that He is NOT the Biological father:
http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/paternity021002.html
www.glennjsacks.com/california_governor_davis.htm (http://www.glennjsacks.com/california_governor_davis.htm)

Not even Saddam Hussein would force a man to pay child support for a child that is NOT his !!!
Feminism is a Weapon of Mass Destruction

"First You Get the Women, Then You've Got the Children, So Follow the Men" -Adolph Hitler

"The `perennial' father is a menace to society and must be treated as such. Like the mental defectives and those afflicted with certain hereditary diseases, he should, after due warning, be rendered incapable of further parentage." -W.J. Ruth. "Population Control For Unemployment." Birth Control Review, Volume XVII, Number 5 (May 1933), page 134.

In the Book of Genesis, when Satan attacked Adam and Eve, he attacked through the weaker vessel: the woman. Just like The STATE is doing today, attacking us through feminism, through the 'woman'. Falsely "empower" the woman for her to make the wrong choices that way to weaken the man to control him. This is how evil attacks man, who was made in the image of God.
In the Book of Exodus, Pharaoh of Egypt decided to kill all the male Israelite infants to weaken the Israelites militarily. This is nothing new. Think about it ! ! !
Statism is Antichrist plain and simple. God should be the King and Head of an individual man, and the man/husband should be the head of his household, not the Anti-Christ STATE.

In this last century alone, governments around the world have killed over 500 million people of their own people. All this government sponsored propaganda about Domestic Violence is just a smoke screen to divert attention from the real abuse: Government Abuse Against It's Own People. This is the real Domestic Violence.

The Bible depicted governments as Beasts; in Daniel and Revelations. Look at old Nazi film; their Armies marching like ants mimicking the Animal Kingdom and therefore subhuman. Individual Freemen become just another cog in the Wheel of the Predator Beast State which becomes the Alpha Male which today IT is doing this through the propaganda of feminism. By feminizing society and thus emasculating it's males for more State Control.

"To disobey tyranny is to obey God." - Thomas Jefferson

Paying child support kills children by Funding/Subsidizing the #1 KILLER of children: single-mother-households:
Children from single-mother households, compared to children of two-parent families where the biological father is present, are more likely to go to prison by 20 times, to commit suicide by 5 times, to have behavioral problems by 20 times, to become rapists by 14 times, to run away by 32 times, to abuse chemical substances by 10 times, to drop out of high school by 9 times, to be seriously abused by 33 times, to be fatally abused by 73 times, to be one tenth as likely to get A's in school, and to [per Lenore Weitzman] have a 72% lower standard of living.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember it or overthrow it." - Abraham Lincoln, First Inaugural Address, March 4, 1861 (1809-1865)

Question to America:

America used to be free. Not anymore. America has turned into Amerika.

Question to America:
1. I steal your car.
2. You take me to Court and the Judge 'gives' me custody of your car.
3. On top of that, the Judge now says you must keep paying the monthly payments, insurance, and overall maintenance of the car.
If you refuse to 'pay', you are labeled/vilified into a lowlife scumbag dirt bag criminal and thrown in jail surrounded by violent criminals.
And to make matters even worse, the government pays/sponsors for a massive government Nazi-like propaganda campaign, brainwashing society, convincing them that if you don't accept/pay for this, with a smile on your face no doubt, that you are than a scumbag dirt bag lowlife 'deadbeat' who belongs in jail surrounded by murderers, rapists, child molesters, etc.

Question to America:
What exactly happened here?
Explain to me what happened here, because this is exactly what they are doing to American Fathers.

If the British had this current System some 200 yrs. ago the American Revolution would have never happened. Benjamin Franklin had like 13 bastard children, he would have ended up in jail as a 'deadbeat' dad.
The rest of our Founding Fathers would have been forced to 'attend' Anger Management Courses.
This US Media Propaganda Machine would have called the Protestors of the Boston Tea Party a bunch of 'nuts' and/or anarchists.
Feminism is a military psychological weapon to feminize/emasculate society for more State Control by weakening the State's Main Competitor: Men

The US Federal Government is the Biggest Deadbeat: $5.7 TRILLION on the National Debt - (financial-future of 'our children').

The STATE Kidnaps children from their Fathers than demand ransom/extortion deceptively called 'child support.'

Maxim of law: The children that belong to the mother are those of slaves and animals. But the children that belong to the Father are those of Freemen.

That is why the Slave Masters used to separate the black slave Father from the black slave mother and child to weaken them to better control them. Divide & Conquer: this is nothing new.
And now they are doing it to men today in Amerika: 2003

Even after DNA proves that he is NOT the biological Father, thousands of men in America are still FORCED to pay this ransom/extortion deceptively called child support even with DNA EVIDENCE PROVING he is NOT the Father:
http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/paternity021002.html

Why aren't former Enron Execs forced to pay child support to all the familes who lost their money?
Why should Corporations have more rights then Individuals?
The Constitution spoke of Rights of the Individual (not of the rights of Corporations)

Also:
Women today can dump their babies off in garbage dumpsters and go to jail, but when they get out of jail (they are than not forced to pay child support)
Women today can dump their babies off in Police Stations and Hospitals and not be prosecuted for it (a new law now) And these women are not forced to pay child support...
Women can also give up their baby to adoption (orphanages)... and not be forced to pay child support. Women can dump THEIR responsibilities...
Why can't men ?

Society today promotes, advocates, and supports homosexuality while at the same time promote, advocate, and fully support destroying heterosexual males with alimony and child support... this is SATANIC !!!

"Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle! Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did, and it never will. Find out just what people will submit to, and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress." - Thomas Paine

All Praise and Glory to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob

the Only True God - The Creator of both the Heavens and the Earth in the NAME OF JESUS THE CHRIST

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Humberto
07-15-2004, 01:56 PM
Daniel, please excuse the Caps.

I want to say that I have nothing personal against women (I just hate feminism)

And that I have no intention whatsoever to defend men in general; there are many evil men out there and I do not defend men

(I just hate feminism)

This is the article that I mentioned before that offends many people.

Am curious as to what you guys think of it.

Rob P
07-15-2004, 08:00 PM
OH my Gawd. - This stuff is hilarious...
Thanks for sharing it Humberto- :rolleyes:

I see the similarity between
conspiracies and prophecies....
~Most often they are full of S**T.

Where do you get this dreck??
Why do you waste your mind on it?
What good does it serve your higher self?
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

~Rob

amj
07-16-2004, 03:44 AM
What do you mean by the state's main competitor being men? Who runs the state? Women? Doesn't it seem a little obvious that if the majority of judges, presidents, heads of state, etc. were in fact women, "the state" wouldn't carry out the wars and genocides and abuses toward their own people that have been going on for the entirety of modern history? If women ("real" ones, not like Condoleeza) were in such positions of relative societal power, I would think that the kinds of massive, violent, corrupt institutions we have today would not even exist in the first place. Maybe this is just terribly naive and simplistic...

How exactly do you hate feminism? I feel like people don't really know what they mean by the word "feminism" these days...

How do you come up with these ridiculous equations?

willoweyes
07-16-2004, 05:10 AM
I have a feeling some of us don't know what we mean when we use the word "hate."

Humberto is right about one thing--many men do have to pay child support on children that are not theirs, even when the DNA evidence proves this fact. This occurs because the men were served, often by substituted service, and the state got a default judgment against them.

But why does Humberto "hate feminism"? His rant, and long list of injustices, does not explain at all why he hates feminism. Humberto, reach into your heart (not the Bible) and please explain your personal feelings on the subject.

I am dismayed that as usual, the vulnerable are blamed for the crime, not the guilty.

Humberto
07-16-2004, 06:29 AM
If feminism to you guys means:
Not beating up women, not raping women, not abusing women, etc. ...

That is not the feminism I am talking about here.

I don't think that anyone, male or female; should be abused like that in any way.

I am not here to defend men either.
There are many men out there who are a bunch of jerks.
There are some men out there who are child molestors, prison rapists, murderers, etc.

I am not here to defend men.

The feminism I am talking about is the feminism that the government uses to control and emasculate and feminize society.

The feminism that the government is using and has been using: That is what I am talkign about here.

The government has ulterior motives in their use of feminism upon society.
The government is malevolent.
The government is evil.

That is what I am talking about here.

dragonfly
07-16-2004, 08:51 AM
Humberto, I would agree that the kind of feminism that sees liberation in working under the same oppressive economic system that entraps men is no liberation at all. However, the masculinism that permeates your thinking strikes me as a far greater danger to my personal freedom than feminism. It is possible to reject liberal feminism without embracing patriarchal oppression.

daniel
07-17-2004, 04:39 AM
My mother was an original Feminist in the 1960s, edited Feminist books, etc. I think they were reacting against a lot of inequities - economic treatment, treatment by men in relationships, etc. They were not part of a military government conspiracy to oppress men.

The rejiggling of the balance between the sexes is an essential theme and ongoing effort of evolutionary consciousness being made at this time - I have been writing about this in my column for Arthur from an esoteric perspective, the meaning of the Kali Yuga - Kali being the wrathful manifestation of Shakti, goddess of sexual energy that creates manifestation.

I find that I do sympathize with some of Julius Evola's perspective in his book on "The Metaphysics of Sex" that we have become a kind of gynocracy - that men tend to be enslaved by the unleashed feminine daemonic without realizing it. Men in our culture no longer know how to act like men - which would mean being courageous, doing what needs to be done to set the world right, not accepting self-deceptions or the burdensome comforts and distractions offered by this "civilization." According to the Shiva - Shakti model, the masculine principle is the ordering principle of consciousness, while the female principle is sexual energy and manifestation. These principles are not reducible to just men vs. women - we all have some of both. However, it is the masculine ordering principle of consciousness that has to reassert itself now and take control of the unleashed "feminine daemonic" current. This has to be done regardless of the current governmental bureaucracies which try to enslave us and waste our time.

We have to make sure we understand the situation properly and attack exactly the right targets - I don't think "feminism" is the right target.

IF you look at Aboriginal and tribal societies, the community of women has a lot more responsibility in caring for the children. The men are supposed to explore the edge in various ways - hunting, shamanic ritual, vision-states. I would say restoring the community of women is as important as anything for creating a human future - at the moment, in NYC anyway, there seems to be a Sex and the City vibe of histrionic envy and mistrust among women.

The real "Law of the Jungle" is more creative symbiosis than cut-throat competition.

dragonfly
07-22-2004, 03:53 AM
Originally posted by daniel:
...at the moment, in NYC anyway, there seems to be a Sex and the City vibe of histrionic envy and mistrust among women.I wonder if this could have anything to do with the imbalance in the population of men vs. women? The fact is, there are a hell of a lot more women than men in NYC. Here are most recent stats I could find, from a 1998 NY Daily News article using census data:

POPULATION BY GENDER 1990 & 1997

Female Population 1990
U.S. 127,493,913
New York 9,364,944

Male Population 1990
U.S. 121,271,257
New York 8,625,834

Female Population 1997
U.S. 136,618,392
New York 9,394,475

Male Population 1997
U.S. 131,017,669
New York 8,742,751

Humberto
08-09-2004, 09:58 PM
Thank you for your Response/Reply Daniel.

Sorry I did not respond sooner.
My energy was low...

It was helpful to me reading some of your words; about being a 'man'.

Thanks