Money. The unerlying Dogma of our social transactions need to be changed.

[hannes]

For Bernard Lietaer,he worked 5 years at the central bank belgium, our currency system will soon come to crash. Unemployment, inflation, and ecological degradation are the effect of the way our money works now. There is urgency for change.
My english is to bad to explain that theories and ideas in detail. When i find more about that matter i will ad it here.
Check the links:

http://www.transaction.net/money/gc/gc01.html
http://www.transaction.net/money/book/
http://www.transactionnet/press/interviews/lietaer0497.html

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[ January 27, 2004, 02:42 PM: Message edited by: hannes ]

[daniel]

I read a lot of his book The Future of Money - it rocks.

One thing he misses is the possibility (perhaps necessity) of reviving a ceremonial aspect to exchanges - as the Native Americans used to do. Transactions without ceremony, even with a more rational currency (with different value systems inscribed in it), would still be a form of banalized "bad sex."

"Wall Street" : Named for the fortress the Dutch built to keep out the Indians, and symbolic of our current economic system.

[hannes]

Hello daniel,
this is very interesting do you know where to find some more informations on it?

I don´t know if it is available in english but there is another book from Lietaer about the mythological and archetypical undercurrent of money. Referring alot on the supressed (earth)goddess and the conciousness of dearth.

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[willoweyes]

Last night, I finished reading Ursula Le Guin's Always Coming Home--a novel of a future utopia where economics is based on the barter system and generosity is a social value. Like the Native Americans, her society is wary of the accumulation of wealth and power--a tempting horror to be resisted with potlatches and migration.

I believe the mystery of the Anasazi might be explained as a spiritual choice.

As Aldous Huxley says in "On Art and Artists":

"Pyramids on the one hand; personal liberty on the other. We have an ever-increasing number of pyramids, or their modern equivalents; an ever-diminishing amount of personal liberty. Is this merely a historical accident? Or are these two goods essentially incompatible? If they turn out to be essentially incompatible, then, one day, we shall have to ask ourselves very seriously which is better worth having--pyramids and a perfectly efficient, perfectly stable community; or personal liberty with instability, but the possibility, at least, of a progress, measurable in terms of spiritual values."

May we make the good choice soon.

[Peter Parker]

I do not know if its fitting into this page, but Robert Kurz is IMHO has a very sharp critic about globalisation, capitalism and our system of society in general. Although he didn't seems to have much "chemical powered" spiritual insights, I think he is *very* close to the point.
His Group called "Krisis" has its own page:
http://www.krisis.org
where also english-documents are available. Robert Kurz' main work is "blackbook capitalism" (available in englich? I don't know) which is a comprehensive description of philosophies, mechanics and faults of our modern economic system. The main reason, I am posting into this forum is because I feel the necessity, that much more people have to be aware of the connections between inner state of our society and the conditions of our economy.
I think money is the blood and nervesystem of our society. It transports information and goods. But a small number of people has much to much money, so they can influence the whole society. If money is scarcely, social behaviour will decrease. So money itself is a very strong power to influence the mood of nearly all people.