UFOs in Mexico

[Charlie]

http://us.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/americas/05/11/mexico.ufos.ap/

Mexican Air Force pilots film unidentified objects

Wednesday, May 12, 2004 Posted: 8:10 AM EDT (1210 GMT)

Unidentified lights appear on a videotape taken by Mexican air force pilots.

MEXICO CITY, Mexico (AP) -- Mexican Air Force pilots filmed 11 unidentified objects in the skies over southern Campeche state, a Defense Department spokesman confirmed Tuesday.

A videotape made widely available to the news media on Tuesday shows the bright objects, some sharp points of light and others like large headlights, moving rapidly in what appears to be a late-evening sky.

The lights were filmed on March 5 by pilots using infrared equipment. They appeared to be flying at an altitude of about 3,500 meters (11,480 feet), and allegedly surrounded the Air Force jet as it conducted routine anti-drug trafficking vigilance in Campeche. Only three of the objects showed up on the plane's radar.

"Was I afraid? Yes. A little afraid because we were facing something that had never happened before," said radar operator Lt. German Marin in a taped interview made public Tuesday.

"I couldn't say what it was ... but I think they're completely real," added Lt. Mario Adrian Vazquez, the infrared equipment operator. Vazquez insisted that there was no way to alter the recorded images.

The plane's captain, Maj. Magdaleno Castanon, said the military jets chased the lights "and I believe they could feel we were pursuing them."

When the jets stopped following the objects, they disappeared, he said.

A Mexican Defense Department spokesman confirmed Tuesday that the videotape was filmed by members of the Mexican Air Force. The spokesman declined to comment further and spoke on customary condition of anonymity.

The video was first aired on national television Monday night then again at a news conference Tuesday by Jaime Maussan, a Mexican investigator who has dedicated the past 10 years to studying UFOs.

"This is historic news," Maussan told reporters. "Hundreds of videos (of UFOs) exist, but none had the backing of the armed forces of any country. ... The armed forces don't perpetuate frauds."

Maussan said Secretary of Defense Gen. Ricardo Vega Garcia gave him the video on April 22.

[forteanajones]

"We've come for Rumsfeld. We know he's hiding here."

[imported_bob]

when all else fails, pull out the swamp gas

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/3304363/detail.html

[Buzz]

A bud of mine who grew up in Mexico told me of a story while staying in Oaxaco (state). He had eaten delumbra and decided to go out for a walk. He was warned by the homeowners to not venture off into the jungle, that he would never be found. So he walked along the road and came to a bridge over a river. Feeling good and admiring the view he stayed there for awhile looking down the canyon. Beyond a curve in the river in front of him he saw two glowing purple geometric objects approaching, above ground and flying in total silence. Mesmerized he watched them as they continued toward him and gently, silently, flew underneath the bridge and gone down river on the other side.

[Halfglass]

Buzz hey man. My dad who dosen't want to admit he believes in anything, told my mom about a ufo he saw over the Delaware Bay while crabbing one evening. He is an x Air Force man and knows an odd thing in the sky when he sees it. I had to get if from mom and dribs and drabs from dad (which makes it as authentic as could be really). I want to see one!

[jezebelle]

hey my ex is a pilot and he says, he's seen them

when my son was just old enough to start talking about his dreams, he says he saw aliens take me and his dad away, one night

I've had a few episodes, nothing direct, just memories of walking down a spaceship corridor,
or beaming up into a ship.
I learned that we are all unique space ships, all different shapes.

check out kids' tv, they are already ahead of us on this matter. The humor is great.

[Halfglass]

Jez: You ever think you might have been abducted?

[jezebelle]

The more I read about the stuff, it could be very possible, especially when I was in college. I remember one very vivid dream, where I gave birth to a glowing white cat! Alot of white light in that dream, typical masked memory. Also I've been in one of those stadiums that no matter where you go, you just return to the center. That's an indication.
My grandmother used to speak of aliens, I used to think she was nuts, until my 40's then I realized it wasn't so far fetched. Now it seems like no big deal, just the course of things.

[Buzz]

Found the video of the Mexican UFO's. The pilots and crew actually didn't see them until the film from the survalence? cameras were examined.
http://www.ufocasebook.com/mexicanmilitary.html

Several ways to view, I clicked on the upper left option, Play Real File 2.09.
If you have a phone line connection, like myself, you may have to rewind several times and a little more of the video plays each time.

[Halfglass]

Jez dear I forgot to check this post. Interesting! I don't know where I stand yet with aliens...I tend to lean toward the idea that they travel interdimensionally (is that a word? lol). Ever read "Communion"?

[Anistara]

I used to live out in the California desert. One night I took 3 other friends to a place called Giant Rock and the Integretron: http://www.aliensonearth.com/place/us/ca/giantrock/
for some mind blowing stuff. I love to tour people into the mysteries. My life has been such where I have had opportunity to deal with people fairly involved with ufo's and other angelic realms of space. The pioneers, most of them have passed on now, but I got to be with them as they passed the torch, so to speak. They used to be known as Contactees.

This one night we made a left turn onto a path. I stopped my car, chatted and spliffed. Talked about the legends and myths of the area, and the recent (under a hundred years) history of this space. We were looking out the window when we saw two lights come up from behind a mountain and start doing the usual ufo tricks. We gazed hard and intently, deciphering, is that a saucer? Or is it some of that Groom Lake Techno? One friend was afraid, he didn't like it one bit. The other amazed. He loved it a lot. Jen and I just started giggling. Everything comes to life for us! (still)
As the lights disappeared, I started the car and began to leave when all of a sudden there were these lasar beams around us. A voice siad, "turn off your vehicle". I looked in the rearview and there were a bunch of military tanks, they were wearing night goggles and had some sort of guns. It was very dark and i then began to be afraid. "You are on military land, turn your car around and go that way" Good thing they told us because I would have been driving further onto the base, lol. Oops. We got squared around on the right path. After the military was gone (a half hour of what's going on and what are you doing here) another light came. It was ahead of us at eye level, spinning, red. We were all like, "what the heck is that?" And then it disappeared. it was a large light, about the size of the car, 30 feet ahead of us. It scared Steve a lot and he demanded us to leave right away. (Steve, rip brother).
I've had many events like this occur throughout my life. It doesn't end as I indulge more into the not-so-mysterious. Such is living in the California Desert... There was a massive quake out there not too long after our adventure. It was called The Landers Quake. No kidding... Lol.

[Halfglass]

Cool report Anistara. What are your feelings on extraterestrials? Are they physical. Have they been here a long time? Etc. Dan.

[Anistara]

I recently spoke with an alien, lol. He told me one thing to tell everyone, lol...

"We are not Alien, anymore, you know just who and what we are. Please, we are "extra-terrestrial" through and through".

LOL!!!

I thought, hmmm... Is this really important...

It is difficult to express my feelings on aliens, ufo's and so on. The reason is that I don't see how they have ever not been a part of my life both directly and indirectly. I knew about them well by the time I was 8. I don't have fear about them, though i know they can induce one hell of a terror, it's their job. For many of them, they are one. The Lam. The Intelligence fairly void of emotional capability.

If people are physically viewing UFO's, like in Mexico, they are doing it as a group consciousness which is fairly easy to do these days. Does that make sense?
If there is a mass of abductions, it is time. I don't think it's cool or anything like that, but much a part of the neccessary shredding of ego. That's been my experience.

Ask more pointed questions and I can maybe answer better. I've had one abduction fairly recently, (November 2003) that has changed my life. It was an awakening moment that was only saved by grace. The way that it happened was bizarre to begin with. I had closure with it a week after I moved here, when the rest was revealed.

A couple of weeks ago I had a lucid dream (May 11)where i was with a bunch of people I knew from Moontribe (dance collective) and we were outside wandering around. I gradually looked up to the sky and it began to get very grey and cloudy. I then saw what looked like a stealth (which i have seen many times in the mojave, thru canyons and so forth)and it took shape of an arrow, then more came. I said, "oh shit! we're being invaded!" and I meandered around to tell people to buck up and be prepared for a mass awakening. I already knew some people were going to be stripped into chaos and confusion thru fear. That is their job.
My interpretation is that they come from a part of the mind that is not the soul, but the illuminated light, Luciferian. They are Agents of the Illuminated, the shadow government/governing.
They our our servants (us), but it is difficult to understand that, but seems to be better understood in some arenas. They transcend time and even manipulate it. They've always been here and never are. I have been implanted, once as a child (though it was a dream, i have a scar on the bottom of my foot. I have removed an object from that area several times in my life and it is always replaced. What i am telling you should not be amazing any longer, it's common. I am not afraid of it, nor does it bother me.

My life is bizarre, lol. I should write a book...

[Anistara]

My life is so bizarre!

So I was sitting here, silently awaiting nothing. I just posted all of this when my phone rang. JENNIE! I was just posting about the Mojave thing. She's all "yeah, I was talking about it last night". We haven't spoken in months otherwise.

I just watched the file footage. it's just the same as what we spotted out at Giant Rock. i used to have a lot of file footage just like this from all over the world. I've since passed it on and need no proof of anything in this world or any other.

I have this: It came to be that these sightings are happening in Mexico City, home of famous entheogens. I wonder, are these being taken by the people, or maybe it's in the water from underground, you know, where the plants grow? Must be a lot of fungus and sage around there considering Inca Land and the rest. Many people pilgrim that way to participate in sacred ceremony. The plants all induce aliens and angels and the rest of the gang. This is not particularly surprising, this mass of lights blipping in and out of time/space is to be expected. When I had my abduction last fall, there were a wave of sightings just after (reported) in the Seattle area.

So I came back to mention all this and looked at the date of the article written, May 12. My lucid dream was on May 11. There was more to the dream but I think I'll do some follow up investigation on this issue.

Control of thought is important when dealing with this nature. Understanding matters of the heart, the nature of love and ego, and degrees of separation...

[ May 21, 2004, 11:25 AM: Message edited by: Anistara ]

[jezebelle]

Thanks Anistara and Halfglass for your posts and I agree, and/or feel the same. Yes I've read Communion and a few others. However my favorite books on the subject these days, are "Nothing In This Book Is True, But It's Exactly How Things Are" (Bod Frissell) and "The Gathering-Meeting in Higher Space" (William Gammill).
I don't have the whole thing sorted out either, but I do think the human family was seeded genetically by many beings that are from other realities, yet we still connected to our origins. Our consciousness interacts with our earth-vehicles gaining new expressions of life. Each unique yet still part of a greater pattern. (A fun example of this is when I did a rave at the last Woodstock, each person making his breakthrough by dancing to his own rhythm, yet somehow through each of our own uniquenesses, we all formed into common wave. Quite an experience)
As plants and animals are connected to us through one of our bodies, so are we connected to extra-terrestrials. Yet everyone is evolving reguardless of the varing densities. A poor word.
They "travel interdimensionally" and so do we, in ways unique to our particular structure and inclination. Just one big adventure among others.
We is them but we chose to get down. I read one description I like; we are the radical avant-garde artists . . . just by being born here.

[Anistara]

Have you read Something in this Book is True? (http://www.hiddenmysteries.com/item500/item503.html)

Nothing and everything is true. Now what?

!!!Peace!!!

(and blessings!)

[ May 21, 2004, 04:55 PM: Message edited by: Anistara ]

[jezebelle]

Yes I have, and I like his book on "Breaking the Death Habit." If there is one book that got through to me on importance of breathing diliberately, it was this book. I don't know why but it stuck. Being a somewhat a self-indulgent baby boomer somehow it reached me.

self-actualization perhaps? . . . and wherever that takes you