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Astrocat
04-15-2008, 11:51 AM
I am a frequent reader of many of the new spiritual books put out there these days, and there is a glaring absence from all of them. They all draw extensively on the major world traditions, but there is one that is always absent, the Jewish tradition. Oh sure, Kabbalah is thrown around commonly, but always separated from its true context as an integral and central part of the Jewish tradition. This loss is tragic because the concepts of Kabbalah become disembodied and confused, made impotent by being taken by one hand for personal use while pushing away the people from which it came.

This is by no means a phenomenon exclusive to the New Age world. It has been going on in intellectual Europe since the ascent of Christianity to popularity. Good recent examples of this is the theory, originated by Whitehouse, that the Chumash, the most sacred text in the Jewish tradition, was written by several authors and was pasted together disjointedly. To prove this theory, they looked into the King James Bible, which is a translation of the Latin, which is a translation of the Greek, which is a translation of the original Hebrew, the Latin and English translations being done by Christians. This theory is still taught in colleges as the leading theory, despite being disproven over and over again and from a common sense angle, simply not making any.

First of all, in a book which is dedicated to prophecy, wouldn't it make sense to look to the approach of the Jewish tradition to the prophets? Such a thing is not discussed by Daniel Pinchbeck. What does get discussed, for example, is Carl Jung's theory on the Jewish "God." Of course, as all modern scholars agree when they look into the primitive Jewish tradition, their idea of God was immature. Look at how their God acts improperly, as swayed by rage and a jealous God. Clearly Jesus was the one to set everything right, making right the ideas of those primitive Jews and their silly God.

An excellent place to start would have been Abraham Joshua Heschel's "The Prophets," an excellent piece of scholarship that really delves into the difficulties that Western thinkers have with the Hebrew Bible. Among them, most of all, is the idea that emotion could be a divine attribute. The assumption is that being swayed by emotion, overcome by emotion, is a character flaw. The ancient Greeks referred to being overcome with emotion and passion as being overcome with demons, distorting the saving power of the intellect. And so, seeing God emotionally reacting to the actions of people, and mistranslating the texts to bring out the seeming misbehavior of God based on God's emotions, shows clearly God's just not sophisticated enough to be cold and numb to us puny fallible humans.

Many of the questions that Pinchbeck raises are addressed in the Jewish tradition, most pointedly the question of the calender, which is central to the Jewish tradition. It is a lunar calender, each month being the duration from the first appearance of the moon after a new moon until the moon's reemergence, beginning the next month. The calender is kept in conjunction with the solar calender perfectly by instituting leap months 7 out of 19 years, making that particular year a 13 month year.

Pinchbeck does make a single nod to the Jewish tradition, all be it in a mistaken way, about the Tzaddik. The tzaddik is a constant phenomenon, existing in every generation, embodied in every person. It is said that there are 36 tzaddikim in every generation, and on their merit the world is sustained. The process of descending to the depths does not just happen in the end, but it is something that has been going on since the beginning of this world, and is something that we do now. According to the Jewish tradition, the end of this world is made entirely by our actions now, not just as the cycle is reaching its conclusion, but throughout the entirety of history, and the "shift in consciousness" is nothing more than our realization of the full repercussions of our actions, whether to bring the divine into physical reality or obstruct the flow of the divine to the physical world. Thus, the culmination is what we put into it, and has been put into it from the very beginning, not just us. Yes, we have the power of our ancestors guiding us through these birth pains, but it is also their actions when they were alive that create a vessel for the transformation.

There is much more to be said about this. As a tradition Jew who is an avid dreamer of the approaching changes in the world, I am in despair over the exclusion of the Jewish tradition from the "cross cultural and world uniting movement."

Isaiah Mpski
04-15-2008, 05:08 PM
Or at least what we know about the Essenes,who greatly inspired and influenced the life of Christ.

"I am the way,the truth,and the light."

Astrocat
04-16-2008, 05:00 AM
I don't understand what you mean by that.

Isaiah Mpski
04-16-2008, 07:41 AM
Twhat.
Essenes?
Light?
The Way?
Truth?
Transmigration of experience via the Soul?


Be here now.
I'm getting tired of my prison and need a slight vacation.:eek:

Astrocat
04-16-2008, 12:00 PM
Crunchy toothpaste.

The wallpaper is vomiting.

Eighteen toothpicks pin you down while number nineteen picks your teeth.

Lone range clump of soy prays to a fallen cross.

craazyman
04-16-2008, 12:04 PM
and is bad as all that is, just think what the Jewish prophets had to put up with.

Isaiah Mpski
04-16-2008, 01:29 PM
.......... Me?

craazyman
04-16-2008, 02:00 PM
CHK at $51.03 Isaiah.

Wish I'd put some real money in it. But I gotta say I wouldn't have gotten in at all if you hadn't talked up their reserves.

When I make it out there to OK for some Lake Eufala bass fishing and R&R, a nice '82 Bordeaux is on me.:cool:

Isaiah Mpski
04-16-2008, 04:29 PM
CM.I cry every morning when I remember I got out at 41 and put it into some Yahoo rated 1 stocks-ABP,SHI,PTR and headed to Mexico.I learned a lesson for sure.Wish I could sue Yahoo and get my money back.
I think another good bet-and I'm going to put another 40 k into when I get it is WPZ.Somebody has to pipe all that N gas to market.
That and some good railroad stock.


Garden looks great.It's the only thing that I can half way depend on.

My partner out at the farm claims he is going to get the boat ready for some fishing adventures soon.:D

Astrocat
04-17-2008, 01:31 AM
Boy, this is a fulfilling and engaging conversation in which a genuine effort is made to try to communicate a very real cultural and spiritual tension. I'm so glad that people are really responding in heartfelt ways that can be understandable to anybody not in their immediate circle. This sure does help my feelings of exclusion that I've had in every other attempt I've made to communicate with this sort of community about my own tradition, the same exclusion felt in academia.

bopes
04-17-2008, 05:19 AM
:D hang in there, astro.

Your initial post is interesting, but I doubt many commenters here would claim to be representative of the "cross cultural and world uniting movement" or to hold any sway over what gets excluded or included in it. :)

("Bullshit!" someone will now say . . . )

PS: I enjoyed your poem about crunchy toothpaste very much!:D

Astrocat
04-17-2008, 08:56 AM
Oh, I realized, also, I left out a few more misconceptions and out of context usage of the Jewish tradition. In the epilogue, Pinchbeck stated that Rudolph Steiner introduced reincarnation into the Judeo-Christian tradition. Aside from the difficulties with the very term Judeo-Christian tradition, which is kind of like saying slavery was a black-white tradition, this is completely inaccurate. The Talmud mentions reincarnation, but does not go into depth with is. The science was kept in Jewish oral traditions, and in the 16th century, Rabbi Yitzchak Luria, commonly referred to today as the Arizal, taught a very involved system of reincarnation different from that of Eastern tradition. There is an ancient word for reincarnation in Hebrew, gilgul.

Lest you say this is a fringe thing, This has been the mainstream in Jewish thought, especially Chassidic thought, since the book was written. A large part of it is going through the Tanach (what is often called the old testament), and tracing reincarnated souls throughout the different texts. This was a view practiced and deeply held by the Labovitcher Rebbe, who Pinchbeck mentions is a derogatory way in the introduction to the book as one of many false messiahs that he is so clearly different from. The Labovitcher Rebbe never once claimed to be the Messiah. He was such an amazing leader that, after his death, his Chassidim were so shocked and left at a loss that they turned him into an after-death Messiah. But that is the work of the followers, not the teacher, and Pinchbeck really should mind speaking baselessly badly about holy people.

The Labovitcher Rebbe worked hard to do exactly what Pinchbeck seeks top achieve, bring about a change in consciousness. He didn't do this through going to other worlds or selecting a few elite to teach and follow him. He taught transcendence in the physical world, transcendence is the physical world, here and now, in our very actions. The shift in consciousness is only the realization of our actions now, throughout all of history. The scope of our actions is enormous, literally brings the Creator into the physical world. And he did far more than Pinchbeck will do. He did kindness for millions of people, set up a world-wide infrastructure of community centers and teachers and schools and soup kitchens where there were no others and they were desperately needed. He made the actual world a better place. We would all do well to learn from his example, not make rash judgments based on posters and gossip.

craazyman
04-17-2008, 09:45 AM
what do you want, a medal? All religions are one, as the poet says.

bopes
04-17-2008, 11:41 AM
Astro it seems you have a beef with this Pinchbeck fellow.

Why don't you take it up with him?

Astrocat
04-17-2008, 12:13 PM
I sent him an email, but no word back yet. I don't really have a beef with just him... or I don't really have a beef with anybody. There's simply a lot of confusion, in myself and in others. If nothing else, I would like to minimally get facts straight, if there can be no open discussion on matters.

Isaiah Mpski
04-17-2008, 12:17 PM
As Daniel has said Bopes,he's partying all the way to the bank.

I like the atitude of our new poster.One of several Jew's who will find their way here.

I am totally with him or her about leaving the social order in the world a much easier medium in which to live for those who come after us because they are us.

To get to the top of your pyramid you have to step upward and inward.
Mpski 2008