Scorpian - Rainbow Warriors >-> Hopi Prophecies

[Axl Omega]

Today is a significant day, it has turned out for me. First because of predictions of Hunter S. Thompson to me once - as they concern dreams of mine of recent. And also because of another person who was prophecized by Chief Dan George to come into my life - before she was born. (Who also sees significance in this day)

So also I am convinced that there are at least three people at this site who are concerned with the prophecies of various Indian concerns. If one of them possesses the Tiponi Tablets is all that I have to learn now, and have no reason to expect that much to be the case, except for various reasons that only make sense to myself. Also I must confess that I believe that I understand The various Hopi Prophecies to a great degree, and perhaps may be the only one alive who does. (Since the elders have all died)

Also since I once knew the first two "Pahanas" to arrive of these prophecies, US Marshall Frank Williamson and Chief Dan George >-> I feel appropriately appointed.

So it also seems of great significance and of an appropriate nature that this thread starts here today. If it offends anyone in any majority of concerns who attend here , then I am out of here forever on >-> and will try to get all of my opinions removed from here. Otherwise it is a Great Day to fall upon a sword. (Or >-> To Die)

MAD BULL LOST IT'S WAY

The circle with the 4 (o's) and cross within (above), symbolizes the Four Corners Region (where Utah, Colorado, Arizona and New Mexico meet - a very high energy vortex). The circle represents no end - the infinite Great Spirit. The Indians believe we are the 5th World of Man. When the 4th World was destroyed (this destruction was foretold), those Indians who had listened were guided to places of safety, underground. After the 5th World was created, they assembled at Four Corners and were instructed to spread out in the four directions (north - south - east - west). Four (4) also represents the four elements in nature: fire, water, air and earth; and the four color races of man.

In the Hopi Prophecy, it spoke of a white man who would come to them and help transform the entire continent into a spiritual paradise. He would be recognized because he would carry the fragment of stone which would complete their Holy Stone, filled with Indian writing characters. The Holy Stone had been preserved for thousands of years. Thus, when the white settlers came to the American continent, remembering their prophecy, they were openly welcomed. The Indians shared all they had. But, in return, all the White Man did was to take. The Indians noticed that their White Brothers had brought a cross. However, it was not enclosed by the circle of the Great Spirit, showing the White Man had lost his way.

The Indians believe that at the beginning of the 5th World, when man was told to disburse throughout the planet, from Four Corners, the White Race was one of the original races that went East. Upon their return to our continent, they had become confused and forgotten the ways of the Great Spirit. Further the prophecy continued, either the White Man would bring peace and harmony or attempt to totally destroy the Indian's way of life and take all his possessions and the land. If the latter occured, (which is clearly the case today) there would come a time when the Indian people would appear to be almost non-existent. Yet, one day, they would rise out of nowhere, as the white race is falling due to their own ignorance and destruction, to lead a spiritual revolution, so all people on this continent would become attuned to the Great Spirit. To hold fast to the traditional ways even if it seemed that everything was against them. To protect Four Corners at all cost, because there is great power under the land that if it is allowed to escape, great destruction would result. Today, the Indians are going through the test to hold onto their traditional ways and protect the land. The White Man's society is trying to swallow the Indians up.

http://www.welcomehome.org/rainbow/prophecy/bayanaca.html

The Hopi and others who were saved from the Great Flood made a sacred covenant with the Great Spirit never to turn away from him. He made a set of sacred stone tablets, called Tiponi, into which he breathed his teachings, prophecies, and warnings. Before the Great Spirit hid himself again, he placed before the leaders of the four different racial groups four different colors and sizes of corn; each was to choose which would be their food in this world. The Hopi waited until last and picked the smallest ear of corn. At this, the Great Spirit said:

"It is well done. You have obtained the real corn, for all the others are imitations in which are hidden seeds of different plants. You have shown me your intelligence; for this reason I will place in your hands these sacred stone tablets, Tiponi, symbol of power and authority over all land and life to guard, protect, and hold in trust for me until I shall return to you in a later day, for I am the First and I am the Last."

The Great Chieftain of the Bow Clan led the faithful ones to this new land, but he fell into evil ways. His two sons scolded him for his mistake, and after he died they assumed the responsibilities of leadership. Each brother was given a set of Tiponi, and both were instructed to carry them to a place to which the Great Spirit directed them.

The elder brother [of the shining light] was told to go immediately to the east, toward the rising sun, and upon reaching his destination to start back immediately to look for his younger brother, who remained on Turtle Island [the Continental United States of America].

His mission was to help his younger brother to bring about the Purification Day, at which time all evildoers would be punished or destroyed, after which real peace, brotherhood, and everlasting life would be established. The elder brother would restore all land to his younger brother, from whom the Evil one among the white men had taken it. The elder brother [of the shining light] also would come to look for the Tiponi tablets and fulfill the mission given him by the Great Spirit.

The younger brother was instructed to travel throughout the land and mark his footsteps as he went about. Both brothers were told that a great white star would appear in the sky; when that happened, all people would know that the elder brother had reached his destination. Thereupon all people were to settle wherever they happened to be at that time, there to remain until the elder brother returned.

The Hopi settled in the area now known as Four Corners, where the state lines of Arizona, New Mexico, Utah and Colorado meet. They lived in humble simplicity and the land produced abundant crops. This area is the "heart" of Turtle Island [the U.S.] and of Mother Earth, and it is the microcosmic image of the macrocosm of the entire planet. Each Hopi clan perpetuates a unique ceremony, and the ceremonies together maintain the balance of natural forces of sunlight, rain and winds, and reaffirm the Hopi respect for all life and trust in the Great Spirit.

The Hopi were told that after a time White Men would come and take their land and try to lead the Hopi into evil ways. But in spite of all the pressures against them, the Hopi were told they must hold to their ancient religion and their land, though always without violence. If they succeeded, they were promised that their people and their land would be a center from which the True Spirit would be reawakened.

It is said that after many years the elder brother might change the color of his skin, but his hair will remain black. He will have the ability to write, and he will be the only person able to read the Tiponi. When he returns to find his younger brother, the Tiponi will be placed side by side to show all the world that they are true brothers. Then great judgment will take place, for the elder will help the younger brother to obtain real justice for all Indian brothers who have been cruelly mistreated by the white man since he came to Turtle Island.

The transformed elder brother, the True White Brother, will wear a red cloak or a red cap, similar to the pattern on the back of a horned toad. He will bring no religion but his own, and will bring with him the Tiponi tablets. He will be all-powerful; none will be able to stand against him. He will come swiftly, and in one day gain control of this entire continent. It is said, "If he comes from the East, the destruction will not be so bad. But if he comes from the West, do not get up on your housetops to see because he will have no mercy."

The True White Brother will bring with him two great, intelligent and powerful helpers, one of whom will have a sign of a swastika (a masculine symbol of purity), and the sign of the sun. The second great helper will have the sign of a celtic cross with red lines (representing female life blood) between the arms of the cross.

http://www.crystalinks.com/hopi2.html

NORTH AMERICAN INDIAN (HOPI) PROPHECIES

Talk Given by Lee Brown,
1986 Continental Indigenous Council,
Tanana Valley Fairgrounds,
Fairbanks, Alaska



Right now we're coming to the end of the animal cycle and we have investigated ourselves and learned what it is to be like an animal on this earth. At the beginning of this cycle of time, long ago, the Great Spirit came down and He made an appearance and He gathered the peoples of this earth together they say on an island which is now beneath the water and He said to the human beings, "I'm going to send you to four directions and over time I'm going to change you to four colors, but I'm going to give you some teachings and you will call these the Original Teachings and when you come back together with each other you will share these so that you can live and have peace on earth, and a great civilization will come about." And he said "During the cycle of time I'm going to give each of you two stone tablets. When I give you those stone tablets, don't cast those upon the ground. If any of the brothers and sisters of the four directions and the four colors cast their tablets on the ground, not only, will human beings have a hard time, but almost the earth itself will die."

And so he gave each of us a responsibility and we call that the Guardianship. To the Indian people, the red people, he gave the Guardianship of the earth. We were to learn during this cycle of time the teachings of the earth, the plants that grow from the earth, the foods that you can eat, and the herbs that are healing so that when we came back together with the other brothers and sisters we could share this knowledge with them. Something good was to happen on the earth.

To the South, he gave the yellow race of people the Guardianship of the wind. They were to learn about the sky and breathing and how to take that within ourselves for spiritual advancement. They were to share that with is at this time.

To the West He gave the black race of people the Guardianship of the water. They were to learn the teachings of the water which is the chief of the elements, being the most humble and the most powerful. When I went to the University of Washington and I learned that it was a black man that discovered blood plasma, it didn't surprise me because blood is water and the elders already told me the black people would bring the teachings of the water.

To the North He gave the white race of people the Guardianship of the fire. If you look at the center of many of the things they do you will find the fire. They say a light bulb is the white man's fire. If you look at the center of a car you will find a spark. If you look at the center of the airplane and the train you will find the fire. The fire consumes, and also moves. This is why it was the white brothers and sisters who began to move upon the face of the earth and reunite us as a human family.

And so a long time passed, and the Great Spirit gave each of the four races two stone tablets. Ours are kept at the Hopi Reservation in Arizona at Four Corners Area on 3rd Mason.

I talked to people from the black race and their stone tablets are at the foot of Mount Kenya. They are kept by the Kukuyu Tribe. I once had the honor of presenting a sacred pipe at the Kukuyu Tribe carved from the red pipe stone of Mount Kenya. I was at an Indian spiritual gathering about 15 years ago. A medicine man from South Dakota put a beaded medicine wheel in the middle of the gathering. It had the four colors from the four directions; He asked the people, "Where is this from?" They said, "Probably Montana, or South Dakota, maybe Seskatchewan." He said, "This is from Kenya." It was beaded just like ours, with the same color

The stone tablets of the yellow race of people are kept by the Tibetans, in Tibet. If you went straight through the Hopi Reservation to the other side of the world, you would come out in Tibet. The Tibetan word for "sun" is the Hopi word for "moon" and the Hopi word for "sun" is the Tibetan word for "moon".

The guardians of the traditions of the people of Europe are the Swiss. In Switzerland, they still have a day when each family brings out its mask. They still know the colors of the families, they still know theymbols, some of them. I went to school with some people from Switzerland at the University of Washington and they shared this with me. Each of these four peoples happen to be people that live in the mountains.

[Axl Omega]

The sign of "The Cross within a Circle" precedes The Great Flood of Noah actually. It represented the four races or corners of the Earth and was first used or passed about to the world once by The Scorpian Warriors. Later it became "The Sign of The Arc of the Covenant" later on in time - and then was lost in obscurity somewhat after that.

So actually I wouldn't say that how the Indians have chose to define it's eventual obscurity amongst the white people is neccessarily perfectly true, but it is enough of that in general ways to serve as a symbol of what they are trying to say. That is - about a break in the "Covenant of Man" that was convened of a time, probably as a sign of an agreed peace, or to stay in alliance in the fight against the Lemurians, or Atlanteans.

(Of course all of this was a pact when the whole world was then only at a previous time just one place - long before the arrival of Columbus and those falsely concieved theories about no contact ever before beteen continents)

[ June 05, 2006, 11:34 AM: Message edited by: Axl Omega ]

[Axl Omega]

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CHIEF SITTING BULL
MESSIAH OF THE RAINBOW PROPHECIES

Saturday, December 15th, 2002 was the 112th Memorial anniversary of the assassination of Tatanka Iyotaka, more commonly known as Sitting Bull. This inspirational leader was murdered deep within Lakota Nation territory, a vast area encompassing much of the central and northern Great Plains. Tatanka Iyotaka in his day was one of the most influential leaders on the prairie. Today, he is the most recognizable Indian in the world.

Tatanka Iyotaka was not impressed by white society and their version of civilization. He was shocked and saddened to see the number of homeless people living on the streets of American cities. He gave money to hungry white people many times when he was in the large cities.

He counseled his people to be wary of what they accept from white culture. He saw some things which might benefit his people; but cautioned Indian people to accept only those things that were useful to us, and to leave everything else alone. Tatanka Iyotaka was a man of clear vision and pure motivation.

As is often the case with extraordinary people, Tatanka Iyotaka was murdered by his own people. The colonial force set the weak of his own race against him. A tactic they continue to use. Indian police today carry on the tradition started by the assassins of Tatanka Iyotaka and Tasunke Witko. Indian police harassing, arresting, even killing other Indian people keeps the colony in control. Seeing that their paychecks, just like those of the elected tribal/band councilors, come from the colonial government points to that quite clearly.

The unrelenting love for his land and his people caused the enemies of the Lakota to fear Tatanka Iyotaka. The Hunkpapa Oyate and the Titonwan Lakota had many powerful leaders, but Tatanka Iyotaka will forever remain the icon of traditional, full-blood strength and dignity.

"We remember the words of Tatanka Iyotaka, Sitting Bull, who said, "I was never the aggressor. I only fought to protect the children."

http://www.sittingbull.org/

http://woptura.com/heros.html

http://www.turtletrack.org/Issues01/Co02242001/CO_02242001_Lakotathunder.htm

http://home.online.no/~indtrail/indsteng.html

http://red_masked_avenger.tripod.com/silent.warrior/id2.html

[Axl Omega]

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RED CLOUD >--> PURVEYOR OF THE RAINBOW PROPHECIES

Well probably everybody and his brother would like to know more about all of the Great Indian Chiefs, but good luck it isn't out there.

Chief Red Cloud distinguished himself during the wars over the blazing of the Boseman Trail. Actually those wars were more about the paranoia of the new white settlers than anything else. The cavalry soldiers would arive early and ambush them before dawn while they were still sleeping in their beds. And Red Cloud helped them to organize against that action.

So because of this activity, Red Cloud had several unpleasant visions of all of his people being "rubbed out" entirely. So he called counsels to help resolve this total annihilation of his entire race - and so they resolved to form "The Rainbow Warriors" to combat that eventuality.

Welll Red Cloud was a clever SOB, as it turns out. He not only collected medical and scientific equipment of the white man, but also medical and scientific books and learned how to use those and to read. But all of this was not big enough medicine to save his people, and they sent messengers to the western nations to send the, Peyote and Mecaline for the new formation of a Tribe of future leaders of their people, who would use these substances to help them to combat the problem.

But as it turned out, these substances were just not enough they had decided. So then Red Cloud called in the counsel of Jesse James, who had often supplied Red Cloud with white medicines when they were available. And because Jesse was one of the few white people who were trusted not to bend words around with them. Fortunately then Jesse had good news for them, friends of his in the west had discovered a new psychoactive substance made from draining alchohal over the the Morning Glory seed. This was because of those who were psychic in that time had seen this stuff being used in the far future by modern people and learned to imitate it to some crude measure of effectiveness. So Jesse got them to make up regular batches for the Indians and send them out to them at Pine Ridge.

But the older people couldn't deal with this stuff, just like the outlaws of the west could not either, because of how depressing it all was to eperience, when that they had no marijuana to help them in the comedown. The Outlaws of those days frequently gathered flowers from every source imaginable, sometimes ordering them from Europe at times even. And they planted them all over the west and midwest, mostly in Colorado. (So which is why that state still has such an abundant variety of those to this day)

So then they decided to try it out on children instead, and gathered a collection of potential future chiefs by those children who were reccomended as having some sort of amazing intellect or talent. And so most of these children were able to use this new substance without going downhill as readily as would the adults. In fact they adjusted very well as measured against all former trials.

One of these first experimental children was the future "Chief Sitting Bull", who later had his own visions of how General Custer would eventually become President of the United States, and if allowed to accomplish that then continue in his campaigns of rampant genocide against the Indian "savages". He had no choice after that, he had to meet Custer personally if need be, and take him out at any cost of losses to his own people. Either that or it was curtains for all of the Indian Nations soon after that - he was thoroughly convinced of.

[Axl Omega]

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Chief Dan George

When I knew Chief Dan George I was only 8 years old. He was "The Crazy Man" who lived down the block. Then he came up to me and barked at me for "Cutting bows from his personal grove". We had no idea who the land had belonged to, and it was only a small parcel of land that layed like as if only abondoned - next to a hardly used dirt road. The fact that we had chosen the very best type of trees to cut bows from was only an accident actually. They just suited the purpose the best that we had been able to discover back then.

So he came up to me, and asked me if I knew who he was and then said, "How he saw my silence so that I must be guilty!". Then went on, "Oh! Or is it because I am the crazy man who does the rain dances down near the creek!" Well I was not confessing to any of this - because he was young and strong and crazy acting and coming to me very forcefully, and all I thought was to run away.

Then he took a steel beer can out of his pocket, and I wondered what kind of nut carried a beer can around in his pocket after seeing him do that. And thought again about running away and if he would actually be as crazy as he was rumoured to be - and then chase me. But I decided to stay the course for some reason, and hoped that someone would come out of the Safeway that we were in the parking lot of.

Then he crushed the can with one hand as he approached me and asked me if "I had ever seen anyone do that before?" And then I really was ready to run, but someone then at that same time did come out of the store and up to us and so I felt a little bit safer because of that then. So after that as they were talking, he bragged "That he could crush a beer can in both directions to the man who had come up to us, and the others who were gathering also during that who all laughed at him at being so absurd. That first feat was amazing enough, but they all said that they had all seen it done before.

So put it on the ground and then told them that he had to give it a little start, that nobody could do it the other way without something like doing that to it first. So he stomped it just a little bit and then proceeded to successfully crush it lengthways addtionally until it was just a little lump of steel. Then turned to me and said "That he could do that same thing to little boys who stole bows from his grove - just as easily!". And then continued as if that wasn't frightening enough, "That from now on to ask his permission before cutting from his trees." "And not to cut the branches to the stump so closely that they would not have a chance of growing back!"

It turned out that this was all just joking on his part, as he explained later on. He just had wanted to give me a good scare, to drive home his point about respecting nature - was all it was.

And after that he took me under his wing - so to speak. And counseled me in all of those things that a kid like me who owned a Indian book and idolized Geronimo would want to know. And then took me into his house once, and showed me things "That he would give to me someday, when I was as old as he was at that time." He was 59 then, but looked only 40 at best, and women would line up and pay money to sit and watch him do things - like build a fence with his shirt off.

Women were much attracted to him, and as time went on I became as mesmerized by him as anyone else was. A few years ago I bought a little Indian that was on Ebay, and discovered that it appeared that it was the vey same one that he had once promised to me, because it had the "7" on the bottom of it that he had scratched into it so long ago once - with a great difficulty because of it's hardness. (That meaning implied back then was concerning "The Seven Thunders"")

So this letter below, strikes me now as if it were to written especially to me, almost. And he did write me a letter that was actually personal also - through a psychic. And after he was dead just like he had once claimed - and had told me "That he always had wanted to write someone a letter - after he had died." And so he most apparently eventually succeeded to do that. Through a modern psychic - And via the Internet.

Touch a child - They are my people

Words to a Grandchild

Perhaps there will be a day - you will want to sit by my side Asking for counsel.
I hope that I will be there
But you see >--> I am growing old.


There is no promise that life will live up to our hopes
Especially to the hopes of the aged.
So I write of what I know
And some day our hearts will meet in those words
- if you let it happen.

In the midst of a land without silence
You have to make a place for yourself.
Those who have worn out their shoes many times know where to step - It is not their shoes you can wear

Only their footsteps

You may follow - if you let it happen.

You come from a shy race - Ours are the silent ways
We have always done all things in a gentle manner,
So much as the brook that avoids the solic rock - in its search for the sea


You too must follow the path of your own race.
It is steady and deep, reliable and lasting.
It is you >-> If you let it happen.

You are a person of little,
But it is better to have little of what is good
Than to possess much - of what is not good.
This your heart will know,
- if you let it happen.

Heed the days >-> when the rain flows freely
In their greyness - lies the seed of much thought
The sky hangs low -

And paints new colors - on the earth.

After the rain
the grass will shed it's moisture,
The fog will lift from the trees,
A new light will brighten the sky -

And play in the drops that hang on all things.

Your heart will beat out a new gladness
- if you let it happen.

Each day brings an hour of magic.
Listen to it!
Things will whisper their secrets.
You will know what fills the herbs with goodness,
Makes days change into nights - turns the stars
And brings the change of seasons.

When you have come to know
some of nature's wise ways
Beware of your complacency
For you cannot be wiser than nature.
You can only be as wise

- if you let it happen.

Our ways are good
but only in our world

I and you are like the flame
on the white man's wick
Learn of his ways
so you can bear his company,
Yet when you enter his world,
you will walk like a stranger

For some time bewilderment will,
like an ugly spirit torment you.
Then rest on the holy earth
and wait for the good spirit.
He will return with new ways
as his gift to you

Use the heritage of silence to observe others.
If greed has replaced the goodness in a man's eyes
See yourself in him
So you will learn to understand
and preserve yourself
Do not despise the weak, it is in compassion
That will make you strong.

Does not the rice drop into your basket
whilst your breath - carries away the chaff?
There is good in everything - if you let it happen

When the storms close in - And the eyes cannot find the horizon - You may lose much.
Stay with your love for life
For it is the very blood - running through your veins

As you pass through the years
you will find much calmness in your heart.
It is the gift of age.
and the colors of the fall - Will be deep and rich,
- if you let it happen

As I see beyond the days of now
I see a vision:
I see the faces of my people, in your sons' sons,
your daughters' daughters,
Laughter fills the air - that is no longer yellow and heavy

The machines have died,
quietness and beauty have returned to the land.
The gentle ways of our race - Have again put us
in the days of the old.
It is good to live!
It is good to die!
- This will happen

Of all the teachings we receive - this one is the most important: Nothing belongs to you of what there is,

Of what you take,
you must share

My People's Memory
Reaches into the
Beginning of All Things

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THANKS:

TO MY FATHER
For he gave me skill,stamina
and the knowledge of my past

TO MY MOTEHR
For she gave me the love for life
and taught me to respect it.

TO MY WIFE
Because she shared my burden
when it threatened to slow my
pace and kept by my side when
we travelled lightly.

TO MY CHILDREN
AND THEIR CHILDREN
Because in their eyes
I have seen myself.

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In the course of my lifetime I have lived in two distinct cultures. I was born into a culture that lived in communal houses. My grandfather's house was eighty feet long. It was called a smoke house, and it stood down by the beach along the inlet. All my grandfather's sons and their families lived in this large dwelling. Their sleeping apartments were separated by blankets made of bull rush reeds, but one open fire in the middle served the cooking needs of all. In houses like those, throughout the tribe, people learned to live with one another; learned to serve one another; learned to respect the rights of one another. And children shared the thoughts of the adult world and found themselves surrounded by aunts and uncles and cousins who loved them and did nit threaten them. My father was born in such a house and learned from infancy how to love people and be at home with them.

And beyond this acceptance of one another there was a deep respect for everything in nature that surrounded them. My father loved the earth and all its creatures. The earth was his second mother. The earth and everything it contained was a gift from See-see-am . . . and the way to thank this great spirit was to use his gifts with respect.

I remember, as a little boy, fishing with him up Indian River and I can still see him as the sun rose above the mountain top in the early morning . . . I can see him standing by the water's edge with his arms raised above his head while he softly moaned . . . 'Thank you, thank you'. It left a deep impression on my young mind.

And I shall never forget his disappointment when once he caught me gaffinf for fish 'just for the fun of it'. 'My Son' he said, 'The Great Spirit gave you those fish to be your brothers, to feed you when you are hungry. You must respect them. You must not kill them just for the fun of it.

This then was the culture I was born into and for some years the only on I really knew or tasted. This is why I find it hard to accept many of the things I see around me. I see people living in smoke houses hundreds of times bigger than the one I knew. But the people in one apartment do not even know the people in the next one - and often could care less about them.

It is also difficult for me to understand the deep hate that exists among "civilized" people. It is hard to understand a culture that justifies the killing of millions of others in past wars, and that is still at this very moment preparing bombs to kill even greater numbers. It is hard for me to understand a culture that spends more on wars and weapons to kill than it does on education and welfare to help and develop.

It is hard for me to understand a culture that not only hates and fights it's-his brothers but even attacks nature and abuses her. I see my white brothers going about blotting out nature from his cities - I see him strip the hills bare, leaving ugly wounds on the face of mountains - I see him tearing things from the bosom of mother earth as though she were a monster, who refused to share her treasures with him. I see him throw poison in the waters, indifferent to the life he kills there; and he chokes the air with deadly fumes.

My white brother does many things well for he is more clever than my people but I wonder if he knows how to love well. I wonder if he has ever really learned to love at all. Perhaps he only loves the things that are his own but never learned to love the things that are outside and beyond him. And this is, of course, not love at all, for man must love all creation or he will love none of it. Man must love fully or he will become the lowest of the animals. It is the power of love that makes him the greatest of them all . . . for he alone of all animals is capable of love.

Love is something you and I must have. We must have it because our spirit feeds upon it. We must have it because without it we become weak and faint. Without love our self esteem weakens. Without it our courage fails. Without love we can no longer look out confidently at the world. Instead we turn inwardly and begin to feed upon our own personalities and little by little we destroy ourselves.

You and I need the strength and joy that comes from knowing that we are loved. With it we are creative. With it we march tirelessly. With it, and with it alone, we are able to sacrifice for others. There have been times when we all wanted so desperately to feel a reassuring hand upon us . . .

I am afraid my culture has little to offer yours. But my culture did prize friendship and companionship. It did not look on privacy as a thing to be clung to, for privacy builds up walls and walls to promote distrust. My culture lives in big family communities, and from infancy people learned to live with others.

My culture did not prize the hoarding of private possessions, in fact, to hoard was a shameful thing to do among my people. The Indian looked on all things in nature as belonging to him and he expected to share them with others and to take only what he needed.

Everyone likes to give as well as receive. No one wishes only to receive all the time. We have taken much from your culture . . . I wish you had taken something from our culture . . . for there were some good and beautiful things in it.

Soo it will be too late to know my culture, for integration is upon us and soon we will have no values but yours. Already many of our young people have forgotten the old ways and many have been shamed from their Indian ways by scorn and ridicule. My culture is like a wounded deer that has crawled away into the forest to bleed and die alone.

The only thing that can truly help us is genuine love. You must truly love us, be patient with us and share with us. And we must love you - with a genuine love that forgives and forgets . . . a love that forgives the terrible sufferings your culture brought ours when it swept over us like a wave crashing along a beach . . . with a love that forgets and lifts up its head and sees in your eyes an answering love of trust and acceptance.

This is brotherhood . . . anything less is not worthy of the name.

I have spoken.

Already signs of new life are arising
among my people after our sad winter
has passed. We have discarded our broken
arrows and our empty quivers, for we know
what served us in the past can never serve
us again

[Isaiah Mpski]

Jesus man.Post us a picture of Quanah Parker.Preferably the one in front of the teepee where it shows him levitating.
Roseberg.I lived in Seaside for a spring before I was assigned to Quanah.
Me and Betsy Bush rented a cabin with a fireplace on the beach.George Sr then was head of the CIA and I was getting ready to retire.
Had just come back from the Vancouver area where I infiltrated a group of Viet Nam deserters,and others,who were going to smuggle pieces of an atomic bomb into the US.Made my-what I thought-was my assesment of the situation in Portland-but was basicily ignored,so I guess I musta made a jerk of myself in the Asteroia area.Hit one of the mother fuckers in the head with a shovel.Deserter hell.Made a new man out of him.
Damn some Indians can be mean.
Oh my goodness did Quanah ever let me in on some good memories,as well as ol Landis Wilson down in San Antonio.

[Axl Omega]

I must admit, I didn't really know what to expect for a reply to be coming to here. Thank God I still can't see it perfectly with the mention of bush people coming up from the beach and all, cause I haven't had my medication yet.

And really, I would like to know where to find a photo of Quana Parker, have found one of his Grandfather or Great Uncle though. (I think) But how will I find it again without some extensive bothersome trouble - I don't know.

But thanks for the "Hit someone in the head with a shovel" remark, that is quite synchronistic as it turns out. But synchronistic is spooking me out lately - so I won't go into it deeper - for now.

Would love to know the mystique of Quana, and have ever since 1967, but where would I find it at other than at this board? (I have no idea) And the mention of Atomic Weapons fits in almost spookily if not just strangely, as appropriately well placed also - You must know where I am going. So anyway now I will go on to search for the soul of poor old (Older?) Long Lost or misplaced Quana yet once again, and will find him maybe after lunch - I guess. And it's weird how that name "Parker" made it into my life in the way that it has. But then it concerns many things, and one is of the rock band "Marshall Tucker" and how a quite rare headband from Viet Nam ended up on TV - besides the other ways it has manifested. And so I might be accused of "Coming out of a closet" of which I am trying to keep the skeletons all in of - for the moment.

Now all I have to do is to decide how much of your post is factual and how much sarcasm, if that matters at all. Or unless you are not referring to an actual Royal Bush Family member of the first kind - of that. I had a feeling something was going to hit the fan with that last post, but couldn't quite ferret it out, and still am having trouble with dealing with that. Is that just an errantly misplaced subconscious sentiment on my part - for me to remain skeptical or suspicious and still looking for other shoes to plummet - I am still looking to find out.

Anyway you are right, Quana is the next in line candidate - It would seem as only quite tranparently obvious. And then it would be Quetzequatl after that, but he is busy visiting the grave of JC in the magic city at the moment - And so is out of reach for the affair temporarily. Maybe I can get Judy Garland to stand in for right now.

By the way, JC is not a mention of Jesus Christ in this instance, but is one of another one who is of the Christian Faith also - And who is like the same - also considered quite dead now - coincidentally the same, at least for right now.

[Axl Omega]

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Quanah Parker
Kwahadi Comanche

Quanah Parker was first introduced to me as an important Indian by Chief Dan George. Also the Chief had mentioned how Quanah had been viciously slandered during much of his life - For having been "A murderer" and "Bloodthirsty Savage" and so that a killer savage indian who was guilty of murder could never be accepted by Christ into any Christian religion or church - Let alone ever begin his own. Especially one of those who had ever once before killed US troops. (According to white people of the past)

So this is the time to set the record straight. Because Chief Dan George also claimed that he was a re-incarnation of a personal friend of Jesus Christ in a long ago time. That they had both once been Scorpian Warriors - 6,000 years ago, and had fought side by side for several years. Then his friend laid down his arms and took up the art of healing, and then bade Dan George to follow him - who remained reluctant for a time. (But which the Chief eventually did) So here is what I could dig up on Quanah so far:

Quanah Parker is credited as the founder of the Native American Church Movement. Parker adopted the peyote religion after reportedly seeing a vision of Jesus Christ while suffering from a near fatal wound following a battle with Federal Troops.

Parker was given peyote by a Ute medicine man to cure the infections of his wounds. During the peyote experience, Parker claimed he heard the voice of Jesus Christ who then appeared to him, and told him in order to atone for his many killings and misdeeds, he must forsake a life of violence and conflict and take the peyote religion to the Indian Peoples. Parker's words and teachings comprise the core of the Native American Church Doctrine and the "Peyote Road."
Parker taught that the sacred peyote medicine was the sacrament given to the Indian Peoples by the Lord Jesus Christ, and was to be used with water when taking communion in a traditional Native American Church medicine ceremony.

Parker created the "half-moon" style of the peyote ceremony. The "cross" ceremony later evolved in Oklahoma due to Kiowa influences introduced by John Wilson, a Kiowa Indian who traveled extensively with Parker during the early days of the Native American Church movement. The Native American Church was the first truly "American" religion based on Christianity outside of the Latter Day Saints.

The White Man goes into his church and talks about Jesus.
The American Indian goes into his Tipi for talks with Jesus.

The modern reservation era in Native American History began with the universal adoption of the Native American Church and Christianity by virtually every Native American Tribe and Culture within North American and Canada as a result of Parker and Wilson's efforts. The Peyote religion and the Native American Church, however, was never the traditional religious practice of North American Indian Cultures. This religion was created by Parker's vision of Christ and was driven by influences from Mexico and other Southern Tribes who have used peyote since ancient times. Under Parker's leadership, peyote became an important item of trade, and this, combined with his Church movement and political and financial contacts, garnered Parker enormous wealth during his lifetime.

Chief Dan George said that he had attended many services within Christian Churches, and that it was one of his favorite things to do. But that his favorite church of all was "The Church of Hipshot" of "Rick O'Shay" noteriety. Then noted that it was also extremely sychronous that one of my children was named "Rick" also.

http://web.archive.org/web/20050308162749/www.utah-nac.org/nacindex.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_Church

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=Founder+of+the+Native+American+Church&btnG= Search (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=Founder+of+the+Native+American+Church&btnG=Search)

I guess also what is relevant to be mentioned here is that Mick Jagger once appointed Chief Dan George as his rock combo's official spiritual leader. (In 1958) Which seems appropriate as that the Chief claimed to be the one who came up with the "lips logo" for them. (Which he got from a teeth hygene advertisement)

http://www.tomhull.com/ocston/arch/rs/blackalicious.php

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[Isaiah Mpski]

Another Great post AO.

[Axl Omega]

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Quana Parker Continued:

Quanah Parker was the last Chief of the Comanches and never lost a battle to the white man. His tribe roamed over the area where Pampas stands. He was never captured by the Army, but decided to surrender and lead his tribe into the white man's culture, only when he saw that there was no alternative. His was the last tribe in the Staked Plains to come into the reservation system.

Quanah, meaning "fragrant," was born about 1850, son of Comanche Chief Peta Nocona and Cynthia Ann Parker, a white girl taken captive during the 1836 raid on Parker's Fort, Texas. Cynthia Ann Parker was recaptured, along with her daughter, during an 1860 raid on the Pease River in northwest Texas. She had spent 24 years among the Comanche, however, and thus never readjusted to living with the whites again.

She died in Anderson County, Texas, in 1864 shortly after the death of her daughter, Prairie Flower. Ironically, Cynthia Ann's son would adjust remarkably well to living among the white men. But first he would lead a bloody war against them.

Quanah and the Quahada Comanche, of whom his father, Peta Nocona had been chief, refused to accept the provisions of the 1867 Treaty of Medicine Lodge, which confined the southern Plains Indians to a reservation, promising to clothe the Indians and turn them into farmers in imitation of the white settlers.

Knowing of past lies and deceptive treaties of the "White man", Quanah decided to remain on the warpath, raiding in Texas and Mexico and out maneuvering Army Colonel Ronald S. Mackenzie and others. He was almost killed during the attack on buffalo hunters at Adobe Walls in the Texas Panhandle in 1874. The U.S. Army was relentless in its Red River campaign of 1874-75. Quanah's allies, the Quahada were weary and starving.

Mackenzie sent Jacob J. Sturm, a physician and post interpreter, to solicit the Quahada's surrender. Sturm found Quanah, whom he called "a young man of much influence with his people," and pleaded his case. Quanah rode to a mesa, where he saw a wolf come toward him, howl and trot away to the northeast. Overhead, an eagle "glided lazily and then whipped his wings in the direction of Fort Sill," in the words of Jacob Sturm. This was a sign, Quanah thought, and on June 2, 1875, he and his band surrendered at Fort Sill in present-day Oklahoma.

Biographer Bill Neeley wrote:

"Not only did Quanah pass within the span of a single lifetime from a Stone Age warrior to a statesman in the age of the Industrial Revolution, but he accepted the challenge and responsibility of leading the whole Comanche tribe on the difficult road toward their new existence."

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http://users.lycaeum.org/~iamklaus/native.htm

http://www.nativeamericans.com/QuanahParker.htm

[Axl Omega]

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(Removed this picture to make it faster)

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[Axl Omega]

AIM
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A Teaching from Tecumseh

"So live your life that the fear of death can never enter your heart. Trouble no one about their religion because it is theirs. Respect others of their view, and demand that they respect you and yours. Love your life, perfect it and beautify all things of love within it. Seek to make your life long and great in meaning - of its purpose in the service to your people. Prepare a noble death song for the day when you are to go over to the great divide. Always give a word or a present - or a sign of salute when meeting or passing a friend, even a stranger who is in a lonely place."

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THE SEVEN THUNDERS

This post concerns also the photo that will be placed in the next message. (And it's interpretation) But I decided to break it into two parts because both topics might deserve equal attention.

I got this photograph by mail once from "Robert Ghostwolf" who once was a Shaman-Seeker and who was a gifted psychic. That group of photos was offered when he was once a frequent visitor to "The Art Bell Show" in past years. Robert died just last Christmas, (supposedly) and was a friend of mine at one time. But our way divided long ago and he renegged on his promises once to take me into his lodge as a fellow of similar causes. (Years later) That was because of how he chose to live his life, as a con-man if that was neccessay (He hjad decided early on) because of how deeply he was committed to saving the world from an apocalypse.

So I was to be a check on him, in case he should go too far in his bilking people. Then I was to come along and put him back in his place and make him humble again. Unfortunately this plan just alienated the two of us, as he wouldn't answer any of my emails except the ones that were inflammatory when I wrote to him. (Maybe that was due to some sort of monitoring and censoring of his mail also) I don't know! Anyway I was mad that he never answered, yet always used the greetings of Chief Dan George so I jumped on him for that. Well somebody got what they wanted anyway. As you can see by looking at his Google search, many people wanted a piece of Robert in the end. http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Robert+Ghostwolf&btnG=Search

Way back then also, he had done a "reading of my life" and pronounced that I had once been a figure called "Washoa". (Who had been a Cyclops once) But this Cyclops was not his friend as he had flooded his villiage and killed at least 200 of his people. So his blessing upon me was either a contrived or convoluted one just to have something to say - I don't know. Or maybe all along he was jealous of the attention I was getting and so was made more set upon seeking some sort of justice for the past from me. I asked him to go away when he introduced himself because he was just another biker it looked to me. That was before he gave up these stories to me, and then he begged me twice to hear him out - "Because his message was of great importance - to his people". So finally I condescended to that request, but with great reservations because he was locally known then as having conned a woman out of $35,000 in the newspapers then, which he was using as a flash-roll to help in bailing out Indians who had occupied Alcatraz then.

As it turned out, "Washoa" was indeed a Cyclops. But one who had just gotten himself drunk once to many times and then stomped over all of his pets accidentally - that he had kept in small pens that he had built for them. Killing and maiming most of them, he was so sad about it all that he cried and cried for hours on end until he evntually died of a broken heart. And according to Robert also until he flooded the whole small valley which he then had shared with an Indian Tribe. They were inundated with two feet of salt water - and that water did threaten the life of an infant papoose who was laid upon the ground inside of a lodge. But someone picked up that child up long before the waters got more than a foot deep and so nobody at all had died "in a flood" from that. Chief Dan George told me this other version of the tale, because he had forseen that I would be accused in the future unjustly of that - A story that was only the result of an exaggerated legend. Exaggerated because that is how all legends about monsters eventually ended up - even amongst indian peoples at times.

So I had first met Robert when he was involved with the Indian occupation of Alcatraz, when he and another protestor had come to me by discovering me as a former friend of Chief Dan George - and then locating me somehow during in a meditation they had all concerned themselves about the Chief while they were congregated fo that purpose at Alcatraz. The Fire Circle they had used was probably what inspired it all to work, because the electricity had been cut off at that time and they had lost the use fire to keep warm at that time.

Chief Dan George had kept a Fire Circle when he was my neighbor and lived a few houses down the street, and did that for two years of it constantly burining. And he could be seen out there once o twice a week very early in the morning because he would be sat next to it for all night long at times. (Usually during the weekends) Sometimes for days on end it was said. What he was doing, he said - "Was saving the world from certain annihilation. That being the eventual and unavoidable evntuality of the coming of "The Seven Thunders" - "Which would destroy half of the world, and then make it nearly impossible for the other half to survive after that because of the great destruction of all of it. Because of world war and atomic weapons, which would do more damage than anyone ever had ever envisioned." That they, "Had all let this terrible potential slide happen by them, and to them as if it was nothing to not respect and fear this power as being potentially devastating, or as being something very horrible and much too precipitous. That as being as huge a portentious problem as it should have been observed of as dangerous. And because of how the people had not prepared for that and other problems that they were someday only forced to deal with - and then didn't."

The other Indian who came to me mysteriously all the way from Alcatraz (50 miles away) also, met me in the same city park that I had met the first in, without any previous notice of his coming either. According to Terri that was my office, much similar to his own office on the street at Haight-Ashbury. It was at a differant interval than with Ghotwolf - who had arrived first and did not mention any others would come after him to me. And since his future arrival was not discussed by Ghostwolf I do not know that they were in league or not, or how much. If they were then that would have only have been a larger tribute to the former as being at at least a modcum contribution to his disturbed character and reptuation, because actually his reputation was waning and wanting of at least some need for integrity. And his problem of not being afraid to seperate people from their bank accounts - if need be by dishonest methods, followed him around for the rest of his life. But apparently he was never arrested for what he did, except for the first time when it was that he had come to me - when he was out on bail at the time.

He does deserve credit though, for making some important Indian issues more apparent to the public - and saving imortant places and things like "The Miami Circle" fo posterity. Which was a most important place to have been discovered in Florida not too long ago. This place was a stone circle - that had tubs that could hold water in them, that were aligned in a circle fashion, and then had a tunnel underground that was flooded with water and went out to the sea from it. It was where the Sirens would be able to enter into and then be changed while there from intelligent fish into actual beings with human forms. So that they could revel for a time in a form that was not so disgusting. They had been shape-shifted by the power of the Dragons back when those creatures still possessed their powers to alter reality by their presence. (Them not neccessairly what is considered to be a smart intelligence of animal - just a gifted one)

This Circle was from the time of Atlantis, before the second destruction of that culture after the first one by fire from it's component adversaries of the Moon and Mars. This second destruction was of their own doing though, as they were trying to send themselves backward into time to be able to return to their former home again, and so caused an instability that sank their entire system of island states. And which then crashed the rest of those Ilses into the Isthmus of South America. (Creating the larger continent of South America as it is now)

http://www.robertghostwolf.com/
http://www.wolflodge.org/

So the second visitor who had introduced himself to me, did that as being "Dennis Banks" -> and then changed that into yet another name later on. And so it appeared that he was going to continue to do that forever, with telling me ficticious names of a similar stature and standing like the first one. ("Besides that last one admitedly made up was the one by which he could be referred to most frequently.")

And then I was told that one of those names was actually his legitimate one, when he eventually confessed to "who he really was" of all of those other three choices offered to me. I think that he was just trying to acquaint me with the names of importance to the Alcatraz or Indian causes of the times, so that I would be able to look back and to remember better of what and when had happened - and to who it had concerned. So for most purposes of the moment - he then had requested me to call him "Richard Roundtree" most often. (The name of a black actor back then) Even though he was obviously a pure-bred American Indian. He said, "Because of how the American Indian - Was always getting the Shaft!"

Apparently he was seeking to avail himself of as much anonymity as he could garner at the time - so that he wouldn't be prohibited from continuing on in another carreer in the future because of his fomer reputation as an activist. (It seems he said) Him being a psychic one also, he forsaw his future in the world and so took precautions so as to protect that. And so he did have a prominent name amongst the leaders of Indian organizations in those days, but was concerned about it being used or bantered around much too freely at the time so as to prohibit his future success in Hollywood. And so his true likeness and identity as invovles his work as a protestor and activist has never since been revealed to the world yet to this day. Who portrays him as is who he appears to be - as concerns him publically then - He explained as being his Great Uncle. (Who is the one in and of the official photos of him)

He has been recognized by me since that time as a now actually being a successfull Hollywood actor of some etensive recognition - in at least a few good movies. But I am still trying to track down his stage name still yet. He asked me then just to call him "Spirit Walker" as that was what he was most proud of as what should define him.

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[Axl Omega]

WOUNDED KNEE

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CHIEF WHITE WOLF

The nameless Indian mentioned in the former post, told me that the reason that so many people had been killed at The Wounded Knee Massacre was because of the US Cavalry wanting to kill one single target - A white wolf. He said that that while wolf was named on the memorial placard that is located there, as "Chief White Wolf".

So I had to look into it, since remembering that Chief Dan George had claimed that he had ownded a re-incarnation of that dog as a child. And to my surprise it all turned out to be true. Look for yourself in this photo, how a dog is located in the bottom left hand corner of this grave photo.

Apparently this Wild White Wolf had been warning the Indin camps about impending attacks in advance. So the Army first put out a reward on him and then sent a detchment to hunt him down. There is lots more to the story, but that is for the book. (If I ever finish it)

http://www.lastoftheindependents.com/wounded.htm

[Isaiah Mpski]

Yes AO.Thank you for the reminder.I will try to get hold of Dan George today and discuss what must be achieved in less than two months.
As to the wolf he ended up penned in a cage in the backyard of a full bird Colonels house at 1624 Jensen Rd,Ft. Worth,Texas.
The reason(in part)that Quanah never came out of hiding was because he had killed and tortured US troops and he felt they would at some point kill him for that-which they in part did.

[Axl Omega]

And so what would you have me do? Just end it all here and stop? How you may know these things mystifies me - a little at least. And if you do know more than me - or something for more certain, then is this the time that Nostradmus warned us of - of that which is to begin within the next year. Or is it at least next summer? I mean either you are speaking the truth now or are being fecicious-sarcastic. If it is the truth that you only forsee two months ahead then we only more actually have three weeks before the party begins.

And so also I know the myth of how Quanah went and captured the wolf that had lead him to reform himself. Then that both he and the dog took Peyote and so lived extra long lives afterwards. So is that the dog you are refering to? Actually that dog is not "Chief Whit Wolf" and as is plain to see "White Wolf" is in the grave of that photo I posted. I would like to argue that he is not, but there is too much evidence to controvert that.

Otherwise if you do mean White Wolf, then there are two high profile people in the world who would be plenty pssd off to hear about that. But then what do they care anyway or they would be sending me money to deal with some of these problems all told. Anyway it is interesting to hear about that the Wolf captured by Quanah Parker might still be alive. I'm sure it is possible, and that also someone is making a study of the effects of Peyote as concerns longevity by now also.

And so also I hope I have hit upon the source of the dilemna, and know that it isn't White Wolf that you are speaking of because the story is more complex than to allow for that. So all I can say is, "Have Peace" and your length of expertise is incredible and amazing, unless it is just fececious. MYHSLAE

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[Axl Omega]

DIMENSIONAL SHIFT

Well I knew that it was coming time to discuss the rambling words of Hunter Thompson soon here. Hunter claimed that the world had ended in 1957 already, because of a Fail-Safe nuclear device which had been activated during The Cold War. And so that the "Demnsional Shift" had already begun before that year and is why we are all still alive.

To bolster this assertion, he also claimed that he had successfully committed suicide previous to our meeting then. (In about 1974 at Winterland. He said that he remembered ir precisely and was vividly convinced that he had only been successfull with a gun to his head then, and even named the caliber of the pistol that he had used. (That being the same one that was used in his more legitimately recorded attempt of recent times)

He suspected that it was only Magick that was keeping us all alive now, perhaps because of the Fire Circle of Chief Dan George who forsaw our problems with nuclear devices in the future. Well this all goes to conjecture as far as the rest of us are concerned. But I have read about people who have been killed, and then even dug themselves out of shallow graves after they had revived from it. Who knows if that is possible, or if it is then why it happens only in our time today. Anyway I will get to what I consider to be some of the absolute proof of the Seven Thunders here eventually.

"And if it is too late, then what else can we do besides carry on anyway?", the Chief once advised me. He also said, "Not to give up! Because the nature of being a Warrior is to never entertain doing that. That giving up is only for those who have no reason to continue - So that those people should have been wiser and given up long before this time in the first place."

Also it vaguely seems other advice like that, "If Dimensional shift has already begun, then what have we got to lose? Because then we are already dead in the first place and so we ought to contend ourselves with saying our last prayers and seeking out our mot sacred desires. What differance would it make if we were dead already or not, if the mission is the same as if we were still alive." Well this was one of the times I was half asleep while he was lecturing me, but it all seems so vivid now that I am through with repeating it. It seems like I was hypnotized at times when he spoke to me, or at least feeling the effects of finding an almost full morning beer lying around somewhere. In any case his words can only make perfect sense, if we are already dead then why make a fuss about the laws of physical science and how they might not apply to what reality actually is? And besides, who but people like Hunter have consciously died once already and seem to remember it.

Although like with other friends I have had with this issuing a warning of their future death. It still is of little consolation or balm to it's eventuality of always coming true. Six people by now have told me of their impending future demise - and the details of how it would come to manifest. It only makes you wish that you could have prevented it somehow, and then only aids you to become more bitter about how unconcerned most of the world is acting now, even when their own country has become too absurd for it to go on unnoticed and unopposed - as compared to even their own alleged most cherished values. At a time when they are so close to the certain forboding promise of a premature eminant demise in their lives now. That it is so close to them by their not taking any action at all - or that responsibility fast enough. That they could nearly reach out and toss a rock at their own of last and final places of permanent final recline - Right now where they are standing at this moment.

[Isaiah Mpski]

No I am not conning you nor do I speak with a forked tongue.
Quanah Parker lived to be more than 150 yrs old.
You can see a couple of pictures of him on yahoo group-PickOverFlow-jon's pics.
I appreciate your posting the history that you have and wish more people would read what you have posted.Great work.
Well,I was teasing a little bit about Dan George.
Dan George is a lawyer in Salisaw,Oklahoma but I don't think we are talking about the same Dan George,but like you say,you never know.
In terms of a time line,I think the early part-first three months of next year- we will see changes in our society-particularily in terms of the shadowing of a finicial collapse and the beginnings of another depression multiplied by our citizens not being able to afford health care, proper nutrition and other necessities of life.No one can live totally off of Coca Cola and potato chips which is what I see alot of people buying when I go to the grocery store.
Isn't synchronicity simply amazing?

Your friend,sincerely

[jezebelle]

"And if it is too late, then what else can we do besides carry on anyway?", the Chief once advised me. He also said, "Not to give up! Because the nature of being a Warrior is to never entertain doing that.

I have to agree with this statement.

A long time ago reading about such prophecies, I am reminded of a idea that I thought deep.

I'm summing it up but . . .
Since we all will die, reguardless, it's important to save our souls with a good attitude, or state of BEING.

What does this mean?

The Tibetan Book of the Dead speaks of the various passages one goes through in death process, and the art of death is in fact more important than anything.

Holding onto your light (literally going for the brightest light) in the process is important.
We who are here, did not make it last time (so to speak) we went for the easier light.
Release your seperations and let it bleed into one; daily.
Love is the cycle of our human evolution and
Joining others, or our "other," is a way to achieve a non-dualistic probability, and let those who need fire and brimstone go there.

I chose to hold onto being a conquerer of my own follies.

Hi Isaiah I'm glad you are still kicking.

Daniel I really liked the new book, I'm a fan.
I want to say more but maybe after peru.

Love to foreum,
jez

[Axl Omega]

I remembered more about the debates about Quanah's dog at some places it seems. So it was said by someone that some thought that "White Wolf" was transferred out to the plains and that a substitute was placed into the grave in his place there. And then that it ws the dog that had warned Quanah.

Actually also what bothers me right now are predictions of Nostradamus that some say allege that significant events would occur bewteen June 29th and July 4th. (Of this year?) And because of the Gloria Cheetham interpretaion of that book of quantrians that prophecize the "burning of the plains" etc. It seems that something is happenng right now. Nostradamus seemed to refer to that as a time frame of great consequence.

And actually in that same Quantrain (Or is it Quatrain) Is actually a back door into his prophecies, which took me many long hours and frustration to inmterpret if that was true at all to resolve if it were true. That was back when Art Bell first arrived on the airways. I thought conquering that would make me instantly rich and famous back hen, but had to look at that prospect again since it only involved about twenty or less of his messages and not the whole book.

So because of the letters "Art Bell" being the key to that back door - listening to his new show was how I caught onto remembering it all, having been advised before of that by another book a few years before he had come onto the scene. The first messages are about how religiuosly committed he is to JC, and the people of our time that are not included in any listed order by other trasnlations. So was not anything of new news but just listed in an order differantly

So since all of the trasnlations offer differant insights into of each species of translation, they all seem to be relevant in their own way of differant perspective. So it really was a great work of intricately webbed intellect that he had accomplished. So anyone can follow this trail I have reported here and now, for whatever that huge trouble is actually worth, I never really figured it out myself. Just to keep in mind that it might drive you bonkers to attempt, and for little reward.

And also I was remembering a connection between "Quanah" and Quanico Virginia was mentioned somewhere that a tribe of that area was connected to "Quana's" people somehow. So what is that really worth either. Anyway I guess for the time being it must remain a "Quandry" not to be too fecicious about it all - I hope.

He did talk about others using his name, and how it didn't bother him - "Unless it concerned any future lawsuits anyway." So no, the Chief said he was named after George Washington and that was why he kept the name. And someone claimed that he lied about his true age and actually and was born in 1919 instead of 1899. I know that for sure he didn't look 59 when I knew him. He looked a lot more like Andrew Jackson more than he did an Indian then at all. And because of those white type of looks is probably at least part of why his people all abandoned his claim to be a legitimate Chief of theirs and so chose not to obey him. And so that caused him great consternation and for him to choose to leave his reervation and wander about all of North America for many years. And then claimed to have visited of the Tribes of the Continent during that time.

He once said to me, that he had seen how many places I had visited in my life - that were off the trail and out of the way and in lots of cases were where hardly anyone ever else had ever gone. But that none of them would ever be concerned with anyplace where he hadn't once travelled himself before me. So in other words he had been absolutely everywhere - that was of any great significance - on this continent. And by doing that he was able to uncover countless repositories of Indian Artifacts and to then buy the land up at that old time of ancient discount rates. (To preserve them) So his holdings were vast and his ownership of land was massive. He even owns land where I am at now, where his private stock of prune trees used for bow and weapon making is located. Anyway he left it all to me in his will, but have you ever tried to break the terms of a will before? (It costs time and money) And this involves some very odd stuff he advised me of in advance, so that not just anybody could rob from it. But most of that stuff goes into his Museum.

[ June 10, 2006, 08:22 PM: Message edited by: Axl Omega ]

[Axl Omega]

THE SCORPIAN PYRAMID

I sit here now, at the foot of where the Scorpian Pyramid is said to exist now - as it is covered by lots of dirt since the Great Flood of Noah. Bt you can still see it's outline. Up on the side of it's slope is the place that Chief Dan George once called, "The Top of the World" and is referred to in his Prophecies, which were once made into a News Reel (Like they used to play at movie theatres in the old days) and then was broadcast nationally once on television. If you go to a higher place that is away from it then you can see where the two Scorpian Sphinxs are guarding it which are covered by dirt also. (That perspective is really cool)

At the foot of that mountain is where Chief Dan George once did a "rain dance" for several days, or at least that is what the town had called it. The Chief explained to me that it was only a Prayer Chant actually. But many people were amazed to some large degree that it did bring an amazingly unusual downpouring of rain that seemingly lasted forever. So claimed some of the more usual complainers, "As if we didn't already have enough of that!" And "Who calls himself by two first names anyway? That must be the most perfect proof that he must be certifiably crazy!" But the Chief scoffed at those and claimed that the effect of rain had only been a sideline bonus of it all.

Actually that "He was mostly involved in what they all should be thanking him for, instead of cursing at him for. As it would eventually help to save their lives someday, or at least their children's." But then thinking back on that again, "Maybe perhaps that is of no concern or consequence to some of them - because I have seen their sins and they are in some cases far beyond any future forgivenss or repair for that." So that, "He was meditating about past times and issues that had once occurred there in the distant past so that he could record them for posterity - that the past history of the area was important not just for American people but for the entire world.""And so here was where once many important figures like Queen Pennecaster, Jason and the Argonauts, and Jesus Christ and Buddah had once passed by or visited at."

Also he liked how the Lumber Mills nearby at the top of the flat place on the hill - allowed smoke to spew upwards always like an eternally lit Indian smoke signal campfire in appearance. And so he did that ceremonial thing for three days continuously, working at it by 7 hour shifts", he claimed - "Or until the Sun went down." And in the town that had almost all then frequently called him "nuts!" it was only for him doing that completely harmless thing, and then also for his being so religiously fanatic that along with having long hair "As if he were an actual Indian Chief." was just too much!

And then his too usual habit of drinking goat's milk at the Taverns instead of beer. Lot's of times people would walk up and tell him that, "No Indians were allowed to drink at the bar! Even if it was just Mommy's milk!" And then more often than not wold throw a punch at his face while he was still sitting. So he would just capture their fist in midair and force them to the ground until they apologized to him. Which people said didn't really take to long to accomplish because most of them were at the point of tears by pain - really quickly.

This place where he had allegedly danced a rain dance at was also locally famous for lots of other dancing there then also - in the western musical style of doing that. So there was a stage that once existed here that was not more than 100 yards from the foot of the pyrmid and where people like Waylon Jennings and Willie Nelson had first performed publically - and then after that had gained more confidence because of the many members of "The Grand Ol' Opry" who were often in attendance at those becase this is where they once had vacationed and this town was called "The Grand Ol' Opry West" back then it was so popular. Also it was called "Hollywood North" at that same time because of all of the movie stars who would come here to have a chance at the world record 6 foot long Steelhead who abonded here once.

But this place is significant also because according to Nostradamus, "It was where people in strange garb to some degree, would all dance at the foot of a Great Pyramid!" "And then soon after that great commotion and rejoicing for several years - Then they would dance it no more.

This would occur before the advent of the lifting of Seventh Seal - which sign would appear near to there then at some time. Or otherwise the coming of the seventh of "The Seven Thunders". Many people have tried to assign this future place it seems to their celebrations at Giza Plateau - at the foot of The Great Pyramid - or another one of those objects which is located there. But they are all mistaken about that guess I believe.

And also as Nostradamus once predicted, "At the place that is a notable one - Of Old Fame by the Quest for the Holy Fleece - (Also known as "Dreg's Circle") Would be first seen the first sign of the lifting of the Seventh Seal - Or the advent of the coming of The Seventh Thunder" "That this would happen - When - "The coin dropped into the cup" - "And that at that almost precise juncture in time - would also be near the time of the death of a Great Catholic Pope." But what this meant as to how it matters to anyone particularly is still remaining to be seen for the most part, because nobody will believe it without more additionally convincing other proof of it.

And what had happened here last November, was that seven rail carloads of uncut Timbers were derailed and then spilled out onto the street there because of the failing of a crossing. This also pertains to the formation of "A New Church" also, but that has to wait for confirmation also in the future as concerns some types of people. And also because it involves "The prophecies of children" etc. Maybe also relevant to it's not coming up of immediacy too fast is because of the bad name that some groups have given to the Templar Faith in recent and past times. But it is mentioned in prophecies about a "New religion that involves all of the other religions into it" as equal ones with common beginnings." That already is a Templar belief so that is not nsal of it either. But is predicted to be larger than any other one to have come before it, and so that it would spread enough eventally to encompass a large following by the entire World eventually.

So it makes you wonder if this spilling out of raw lumber onto the roadway - that had taken days to clean up. and months to repair. Was a sign that the Scorpian Gods were angry that a Great Prophet of theirs had once been Crucified by using a similar form of lumber. Because according to "A great one" who was his friend in a former lifetime, "Who should come into the world long after him - and then also for some time be mistaken for The Second Coming of Him", that "He would be one who was originally a Scorpian Warrior himself, before he had laid down his sword and shield and turned to the art of healing in preferance."

You see, this place is located in "The Valley of the Cyclops" as it was once named, and with good reason if you believe in the tales of Ulysses and Jason and Sinbad. Because it holds all of the signs that are written about it that were used to describe it in writings. It is otherwise equally held as being famous as once it being the seat of the once "Great and Fabled Mystical Land of Hahn" also. "Where the Scorpian Warriors and their immense force of Giants and Dragons had once arose from, and in desperate anger had set out to conquer the entire rest of the world." They didn't do that just for lust of property, or other mere worldly goods and acquistioons. But because they were fed up with the Chinese from the Far East coming to here and making use of their land without permission of theirs, and then also capturing their people to use as slaves in doing that. (And then would steal them to never be seen or heard of again as they would take them along withtheir other booty back to China also)

So the Scorpian Tribes set out to cross the land bridge that was wider back then thanit is now. In existance now known as being near Alaska - Into the land of the abductors of their friends and families so as to put an end to that practice from then on. With them they had broght their own version of "Dogs of Doom", by the use of their Giants and Dragons, and the Cyclops and portage of fire, to carry their burdens across the waters that still seperated them from the other continents. (With only forty to fifty feet deep at that time then)

And they nearly conquered all of the Far East in perservering to accomplish that end at first, because of how they were fierce adversaries and painted themselves in ghostly colors to look like skeletons. and how they were clever in the ways of stealth and so were not detected by the se of their ingenious methods of entering fortresses undetected, even when they were expected to come.

And so after some major success at this first effort against China, then they continued on and went into Europe and conquered there largely also. Behind them they left the Giants of their cause far behind to stay, who then took over all of the forts and castles and were had decided on their own to stay behind. (Mostly of their own choosing)

And then that became the source of them forever after in the legends of once conquering Giants who would persistantly remain seemingly forever. In these places where they ended up in legends and mythology of those days in European hisory for long long afterwards. So Europe could never free themselves of those Giants from then to seemingly forever after that, until the coming of the Great Flood which destroyed them all from the face of world wide. The Cyclops were killed by the use of great giant crossbows, but the Giants were harder to hit with those as they were all fortified behind walls.

So it was the time before the Great Flood that all of this had happened, and after the second destruction of Atlantis. But still the world was a magical place of power for some time remaining still for long after the destruction of Atlantis. And that power of magic actually persisted until the time of the coming of The Christ, and then also for some time even after that. (p ntil the 11th Century) It only subsided after the loss and killing of all of the remaining Dragons and the evental natural extinction of the Sirens.

But the Mythological legends of history are actually more fact than fiction, with us of recent times losing these psychic powers - because of their dimishing since times like the Moon was conquered by the Vemannahs launched from India. (And events like that) Actually they had a great prowess of scientific skills in the past at those same times, that were lost beginning with the event of The Great Flood. Because as is noted by scriptures of all great religions, science was regarded after that time as something to be feared and not blessed. So most evidence of past technology have only remined here as hidden by the oldest religions, in places like deep caves.

And so the going away of those in some perspectives only bad times, just actually only freed the world in good ways for them and for us up until now - and didn't hurt anything of much conseqence at all because of how these powers also demand a retribtion at the same time. And the civilizations like that of The Atlanteans had also made slaves of other races frequently, an so they were all glad to be free of that. And so also because of that age of invasion and conquest you will now still see the American Indian influence left behind them in all parts of the world. Like in Hungary where the usage of Indian Prayer Totems stayed with them for a long time on. These were kept to the remarkable likeness of the ones that the American Indians had used first and are so familiar for in their culture. And then also it is remarkable how that the Tibetans and other Eastern religions still employ the physical likenesses of those, and still possess much similar physical looks to the American Indian. (See the movie Attilla etc.)

Then the Great Magician Dreg was sought out by the Kings of Europe and contracted to free the people of Europe of this terrible and horrifying scourge. The Chinese Lords had managed to free themselves being first to do that, by their possession of ancient secrets of a great magic - like they once had in the genius of useage of inventions like gunpowder and cannons. (Which later was hidden from them and supposedly not in existence for some long time after) But Europe was still plagued by the onslaught pestilance of Dragons and Cyclops and Dragons for yet still many years afterwards, of the original conquests of The Ghost Warrriors with them all being driven back to their homeland. But Europe also wanted all of it's stolen symbols of power and objects of reverance to be returned back to them also, and so pursued them for centuries after into the homeland of the Scorpians to retrieve them - But in some cases never were able to accomplish that.

But Dreg eventually prevailed in his endevours and proved to be able to overwhelm these enormous and indefatible adversary, and to free up the rest of the civilized world from these Pagan Ghost Warriors an thier wicked magic to some major extent at least. As at best that he was able to accomplish for his people back then by stopping the inflx of more Dragons and such. But in order to do that he had to travel to the legendary "Land of Hahn" itself in person - in order to accomplish that. And to work within the center of their most powerfull "Magic Circle". (Now thought to be located at Stonehenge) That place itself in order to do that thing more ably and successfully. A place where later on after that, many other Great Warriors would follow for him for all times into the future.

Ones that came after were like Jason and his Argonauts, or Ulysses. Only Great Leaders of men because of the trouble of the Cyclops who always persisted even of the Great Flood because of their quick ability to move around and dodge troubles like enmroaching waters. After those then all of them who came to capture back The Golden Fleece were easier equipped as eventually all of the Cyclops were exterminated. The importance of The Golden Flece was becase it was that which represented the proof of deed and ownership of all of Europe bakc then, and for all future times until it was forgotten about as unretrievable.

It had been captured by the Scorpian Warriors in their quick and decisive retreat, an then hidden away in a cave somewhere in the New World that was too hard to distinguish from amopngst the thosands of other similar caves located near their capitol also. And so it was not easy to find no matter how many men were employed in doing that. Even after the destruction of the persistant remaining of the Cyclops there.

And so the rest of the problem that had remained until the coming of The Great Flood came along - and rid the rest of the world of the problem of the Giants finally - That was long before the searches ended for the Lost Fleece. They were eating so much of the world's food supply then that the smaller common people were generally starving everywhere. And so it was an answer to a great and moanfull prayer also that had been answered - with the coming of the flood. And the Giants were starving also even themselves then, and so would cut each other up in order to slake the blood of each other from those inflicted wounds. Until the world was made free of all of them by advent of them being them all becoming drowned in the Flood. But still it took cleverness on the part of Noah to rid the world of them, because he had to lure them into the desert with traps of food so that they would not be able to climb p onto mountains and steal the food of the surviving people located there in those high places. And then Noah travelled arond the world and fed those masses, as well as his own people who had manned he Ark. Bt all of the survivors were not only these people, and the Ark was only for the resce of stranded animals and people mostly. It is theorized that Noah also possessed a Vemannah vehicle that was a spacecraft, because of the desciptions of how it was entered into from the side. And no boat worth it's salt ever has had a door in it's side or it would sink. Searches of the Antarctic that began with the first expeditions for that object by the Nazis, are now bing imitated by the Americans there for this anciient craft. Evidence exists of workers being burned by radiation in those searches.

[ June 10, 2006, 08:30 PM: Message edited by: Axl Omega ]

[Isaiah Mpski]

For service beyond the call of normal phenomenazation-catalytic in nature,by the Powers invested,hereby annoit thee Lord Laird AO (and yes I spent alot of time learning about John Wilson.
Yes I can say prayers and like Thor I am answered in Thunderbolts.
hell of fight they had last night about where the annual Sun Dance is to be held.I think there is nothing wrong with having two dances.Give a medal to whoever goes to both in the same years.
That crap of taking chain saws to each other will lead to murder and we need no more of that my brother.

\ Yeah,hey Jez.I think a trip to Mexico with me and Pat would be more fun than Peru.Can leave by plane,train or auto.Let us know.
We had a 34 yo army vet from Austin.His dad is into rehabing people in Austin MD style and wants him to stay awaw from his whiskey drinkinglush in Dallas.Anyway he was out here fishing and gardening and taking care of the chickens.Maybe you and him could hook if you could arrange a stopover on that trip to the Holy Land.
Kinda messy,but what kid isn't.And if I remember right you are still smoking those pre-rolled per-packaged sticks from the lake of the burning fire and so does Lord Spooker so hopefully we'll all get along well together.
Really a great looking god-six-four-240.Played linebacker for West Point.
You know I have one rule.

Dr John D. Son,BUS,BS,MD,ND,NMD,psychiatry

[Axl Omega]

Yeah I do think that you are psychic, if I could only make out more than just the main thrust of that. (Maybe)

And it seems like a good President should be chosen as so should also a Guru of any type. That is - That you want the candidate who doesn't want the job, but is the most qualified. Well that had always been me, "Take the fame and shove it" but still want physical things because I never had any. (At least of what I was always promised or what I had earned but never collected) So I don't know if I could ever qualify as a spiritualist. Many people apparenty excel me at that anyway.

And I really was hesitant to bring up the subject of Cyclops let alone Dragons, because nobody believes in either of those, but that is mostly because they start looking at Chinese history and comic books to figure it out, and we really don't have a complete history of our world further back than to Jesus Christ. At least not one that is eplained as making sense of any sort. And civilization goes back 14,000 years, of which only 9,000 are accepted as proven to have existed by Archeolgical evidence. But still with those most ancient ruins there is no accompanying history for them.

So why did anyone ever turn to stone or a pillar of salt, no explanations of that offered to us any better than why did people ever expect to be able to make gold out of chemicals or lead. Actually they all have a common thread of association, that also eplains why they mummified remains in ancient Egypt. But who really knows enough even to begin to give a crap?

So I would dismiss all of the legends of Cyclops out of hand, even though Chief Dan George mentioned "Jack the Giant Killer" in his Prophecies. Well so for most people I guess then it just amounts to, "What an old kook!" But once an oriental girl came to me and asked me for a date. She was overweight and so on the homely side, and lived net door to my coolest friends who were actually a little bit "Too cool" actually, but we all had similar affections for rock music and so I put up with their jeers as I finally accepted date from their homely neighbor.

After all she was actally a very nice girl, and promised to make me gourmet food if I just would go to her house at an appointed time to eat with her, with her Mother chaparoning us. So as it turned ot her Mother was interesting also, and told me all about "Magic Lanterns" and how to use them in making a wish. You've seen them before probably, and wondered how or why they end up in Import stores in the first place. I mean who wants to own one except for a kid who has seen a movie or read a book about Genies.

Well as it turned out this homely girl was actually Miss Hawaii once before in her life.
And then went on to become Miss Teenage Universe after the time I had met with her. So who knows about what beauty amounts to ever - it is obvious. She was an expert at cooking, and so could put on pounds in doing that, or take them off just as easily. So who can judge looks when the problem of too much fat interferes with the view. And who needs smart ass friends who are too vain to even give a nice person a few moments of their valuable time?

So she told me that when I had the opportunity that I should by up a blk of these Magic Lanterns and sell them on Ebay with her endorsement added on. (Plus some other percs) But how did she know that I would someday find the place where a Cyclops made his arrow points at, and that across the street from there that they would have 30 of those useless Lanterns that they would sell to me in bulk for 50c apiece? I mean how did she know about Ebay in 1974? nd why did an angry Chinese guy who claimed to be an actual Ninja want to kick my ass for knowing her, two years before I hd met her even. Well i had to fight the SOB, and it almost sent me to the hospital in defending myself because he was pretty damn strong and was using Martial Arts on me. I only knew two things about that type of fighting, and so barely escaped with my life, but he congradulated me for escaping his unusual and unjustified wrath because nobody had ever stopped him before.

So you see, my experience with Dragons and Cyclops is far beyond what I ever expected or invited it to ever become. As was this "Ninja" who claimed that he was a re-incarnation of a Dragon and that so had been also Jesus Christ. (Even though he knew nothing other else about Jesus and preffered Buddah to any other Faith)

So that's about how much sense my life ever made. Lot's of people with lots of promises of money to me in the future. And then they all died and left me with nothing actually. (Who has $25,000 for a lawyer in a town 1000 miles away)

All they really left me were sour prophecies about how I would have to fight Ninjas a whole lot of the time for no apparent reason, and would be considered a walking miracle if I could even survive it all - up to this point.

So now I am gifted with lots of memories, but you
can't market memories nowdays just because someone once advised you that it was possible to do that. They didn't take into consideration that this modern age is chock full of skeptics and con-men. So full of those that promises of anything don't sell at Ebay or anywhere else. (Unless it is Gypsy toast that resembles Jesus) Doesn't anybody realize that Gypsy toast that resembles Jesus has been on the market for ages now? And that someone just painted water onto a piece of bread before sticking it into the toaster? AxL

[Isaiah Mpski]

Listen Lord AO to what I lucked into.
The house where Oral Roberts talked with Jesus.I don't know if it was when JC told him to come up with 15 million or else,but chances are it is for he stayed out here on the lake at different times over about a four year period.I bought it from the a lady in Hawaii and had to replace the septic system after my neighbor next door crushed the original tiles when he laid the foundations of his multimillion dollar house next door.
Anyway I ended up with about a half dozen of these old clay pipes.If you want to try to sell on e-bay I'll give you half of what they bring.You could title them holy shit or something.

[Axl Omega]

How about you give me "The half of what they bring" up front - and we stop there and call it a deal? Or did you already give most all of that to Oral Roberts?

And what all did he sell for 15 million - 15 million souls? How about a wild cyote or two from Tecas or something in with it all. (Belonged to a full-bird colonel) Ha! Oral must have gone on line with the Bush God Almighty. Then they were probably talking to each other and thinking each that the other one was their Lord come down to Earth with further instructions.

[Axl Omega]

OK, I looked at what might have gotten you angry, and took that offending allegation out. Actually it was just what someone had said who had sent me on that ridiculous quest, that I would find something said about myself in the Nostradamus book. And I never really did find that except in what could be vaguely construed as my initials maybe. (And wondered at the time of writing it why I was saying that) So I apologize, and have edited all other irrelevant assertions to the point of the thread out also from here. (And will continue to search for the aame of those and continue with editing like that) Just got carried away with my awesomely too meaningless past, it seems yet once again.

[willoweyes]

Damn I hate edited posts and then why bother sticking it under our noses if the rest of us can't comprehend>?

[Isaiah Mpski]

Such is the pyramid of psychoses Willow.A world of overwhelming wonder and confusion but all so real for those able to deal with it without becoming so overwhelmed and exhausted that it takes them with it.
It is good a have a lover you can trust and depend to help you find some rest when come back from the mania.
Thanks Willow for the response.
And to you Lord AO don't becomed overwhelmed by any confusion you may be experiencing.Take a nice long nap and certainly don't do anything that could lead to your destruction or total mental exhaustion.

[ June 12, 2006, 03:52 AM: Message edited by: Isaiah Mpski ]

[Axl Omega]

Sorry Willow, I just needed to straighten it all out as more to the point with a little of distraction as I could ferret out. It isn't a finshed book, and in the process of being written, so it is easy to lose track of where it is going. I don't intend to leave anyone in the dark as concens any issue of this topic whatsoever.

As far as who is "The Lord" issue, that is for some paranoid people to eiher read itno it or to ignore. As explained below this is a moden world and "Lords" are not legal anymore in America.

So some things are only written as they were compliled from many differant sources as best that I could put them all together, like as concerns the Scorpain Warriors history. If it tends to sound like a dictate of the Bible or something then that is only because of how it was written orignally and not because I wanted to add a lot of Hollywood drama to it all. And so my story coninues:

So let me begin again by quoting what Chief Dan George told me once. "That people are too involved and infatuated with all of the glitter and glamour of the magic of their modern world to really care too much about their beginnings." I think he was inspired by this thread to say that o me once.

And as for who is a "Lord" or not. Well first of all The US Constitution says that, "No person shall accept any title or appointment from any foreign country as a US Citizen without the consent of Congress" (Or something similar)

In other words we have no "Kings" or "Lords" in this country and never should. Besides that if anyone can see themselves as more justifiably appointed as a "Lord" in these times then they are probably nuts. Jesus Christ died to free us of that problem for all times on into the future. It was probably sorry that it took so many years for his idea to sink in. But what can anyone do about the past?

I guess the Christian Religion took a wrong track somewhere along the path, and so important parts of the Bible were ommitted or never included in the first place. It seems that al of the future after the Crucifixion was predictable and unchangeable and so this was done intentionally. This age is the prophecised time of the emergence of a new nation "within another nation" I believe. And something is mentioned about that event happeneing in the "Age of Aquarias"

And that new nation is forever controlled for all times future by the deed of that land once possessed by Jesus in his lifetime. (That he had hidden after his death - To be found in our time again) It was The Arc of the Covenant which is why Jews thought once that they were "The chosen people" after Moses stole it from Egypt and crossed the Red Sea. That is why The Pharoah chased them into the parted waters of that Sea. Because he just as easily could have gone around and caught Moses on the other side, but was afraid that Moses would have the Arc hidden if he waited too long to get it back.

And Jesus didn't "Die for our sins" as some want us to believe. But only to free us from the worst sin of all of them, of ever expecting to own the world. As long as Jesus owned the Arc, and then waited long enough for it not to be usefull as the legal deed of most of the world anymore. (as concerns political concerns for the abusive consolodated ownership of that land) All he had to do was wait until democracy took hold so that nothing would revert to ownership by any King. (if they should ever come upon that deed of The Arc again someday) So when the Arc re-emerges it will only designate that a dead man as the last legal owner of that land, and so it is to be governed by how his last will and testament will dictate. (Which is located somewhere in some lost scripture somewhere still) The Mormons perhaps have this scripture, and is why they believe in the emerging Nation of Deseret. The only way that they messed up is in assigning it all to themselves first, without finding the exact proof before doing that. I don't know where all of this proof is to be found at right now, but do believe that it will manifest eventually.

[Isaiah Mpski]

Ok.How bout Laird then.
Very few people understand Christ as I do>When it is said that "he died for our sins"it means exactly what it says.Jesus did everything and anything any of you have done and he offered himself as an example of what a sinful life will lead too.
We in America live in a country where perversion is legal and thus more are tempted to tri it.What is the old saying AO."Wide is the Gate and narrow is the path..."
Why do we have so much perversion.Because we do not have open marriages-from the word mary-to be come like mary.

[Isaiah Mpski]

That's right AO,Mary was screwing Pontious Pilate or Herad right up to their child's crucifixion.And I think Joseph served as her pimp.\

Uh Oh.I hope JC doesn'r decide to go online.He's lible to kick my ass.Don't anybody tell.
Sooker -Luker-you know the Army boy from Autin will be back at the farm tonight or this morning.I told him-no more beer drinking around Mary Magdeline-she's actually more like eve-has been beer free for a week now.Makes it hard on me being a wine drinker.

Life is fast and cheep in America AO.

[ June 21, 2006, 10:14 AM: Message edited by: Isaiah Mpski ]

[Axl Omega]

So I'm glad that there is more feedback since I heve been confused about where to go lately with posting. Too many mixed messages that make me curious why I should go out on a limb.

So as far as why JC gave himself up to Herod and Pilate etc., it wasn't to show people how to live their lives, because he said, "I go where you may not follow". Hope that satisfies that.

His only cause was to end the line of royal ascendancy on this plane. To get rid of the true King of Israel and several other nations permanently. Like if someone today were to end the family name by suicide and hide all of their claims to wealth at the same time. That would put an end to their dynasty. Well I think I discussed that already, his purpose was to end the domination that the Arc had over the world, and the Kings appointed by the ownership of that object.

So I guess you are asking also what is sin it seems. Or original sin? Actually sin is in the mind of the ruling class and I can't find much that Jesus outright stated was to be considered a sin. He was more into following the standards already set up by the scriptures, and you will notice that many times the Bible says that his appointment was only to follow the rules and to fulfill the prophecies of that collection of scripture.

Making judgements over others wasn't exacly what he was all about - from what I can determine. Of course there are exceptitons to this, like when he made himself a whip and drove the moneylenders out of the Temple. His advice was to stay objective and neutral about most issues unless it irritated or bothered you personally. To not judge people without a firm conviction I can only guess since actually he seems to have become impotant as concerns freeing people rather then bringing them more rules to follow. To let the law decide guilt, or the quarum. (As it may be)

I'm surprised that you defend Jesus actually, with your prejudice against Quanum Parker. Actually Quanum Parker never was hiding because of his past, and was very open and outgoing in his life. (Until he went broke doing that) During the wars he was involved with, torture was exacted by both sides then and not just by him against the US Army. So I'm sure that he felt no guilt about any of that. As people grow older they tend to feel guilt about things that never bothered them before, if that issue is of any sort of record anywhere. Haven't gone to the reccomended place where his photo is posted at. (As an old man?) Because I always have a hard time with passwords and that stuff.

As far as what Mother Mary did with her life, of record she was the most devoted person to ethics that people knew in her time, according to testimonies of her demeanor that I have read. So really don't know where the attempts at humour concerning her life are aimed at precisely. She seemed like an old crony to me at times myself so I am not objecting to the attempt at jibing with her reptuation. Maybe it was just a stab at humour that is too general and so is why I can't discern it any further than that. And Yeah - I thought about blaming his Mother for how he ended up in life so pitifully - myself also. But he did have the offer of running away and saving himself, so that adds a new dimension to the argument of why he never did that. My opinion is that he didn't want them humting down his family in place of him - if he ever ran away. Probably that and other factors involved.

[Isaiah Mpski]

Are you silly?
Have you never lived in Israel and heard the "old wives tales" concerning Jesus and his Mother and his father?"Have you heard any of those?
You can bet they are probably more true than what was written several hundred years later mostly for political purposes.

The life and story of Jesus is a template as you read these words of mine coming out of the clouds.

[ August 07, 2006, 12:06 PM: Message edited by: Isaiah Mpski ]

[Axl Omega]

As to the first statement, "Am I silly?" Well I seriously doubt it is offered here as concerns any relevant issues - in the long run. And so as cocnerns of the next remark, then I guess I am just not an "Old Wife" or something requistly similar to that.

As concerns who is "mis-informed" - or who is in possession of only the outright obvious results of a past strident examples of dissinformation. Or who is just "a liar" as concerns any of that issues, then let me say this. "Of course Jews are going to reject the notion of any given example of the arrival of any "Messiah" who ever comes ever at any time future - because in their defintion of that word (Messiah) It is a person who when he arrives will announce the final end of this world for all people in that time for all times to come - beginning of from when he first comes.

For them to have ever even suggested that "A Messiah" would someday at any future juncture ever arrive a any future time is just an empty dare that has no merit as an argument to begin with. Or is offered more specifcally to those of their own persuasion most peoperly - in order to make them afraid of being defiant of the philsophy in fear of reetribution. It is offered only by which is of an order to gain dominance over that flock of followers at any decided future time or circumstance, and if not satisfuably a solution then susceptable to it being denied as an official circumstance at any given juncture. By announcing it in advance only allows them to name any person whenever as Blasphemous and can be suggested as a "false arrival" - (By whoever arrives ever who deifes their doctrine)(So as to offer firm validity to any circumstance - quite obviously)

So the accusation does not gain credence of itself just in the fact that it is presented as a satisfiable argument against what it in itself proposes to resolve. It is hypocrasy in itself to say that a Messiah will ever arrive in the first place. And so the more evident and relevant fact in my mind is how when Moses denied his people of the opportunity of remaining the "Chosen People" forever. That once he got rid of the proof of that allegedly "proper designation" of that appointment, then they just resolved to hatch a plan to make it appear as if it was never an issue to be disputed that they never were those chosen species ever in the first place. In other words a deception was initiated by Jewish people (who existed once) long before any disputed or contentuous arrival of any given "Messiahs" ever became a relevant issue in the future. If a liar decieves people however long a period before the "truth" ever actually arrives, how does that substantiate the original deception as valid at any future time - yet still. Just because one version existed (disputedly) before another one arrives - does not answer the question of which one is the most relevant issue of fact either. It is all only consistant of unacceptably opinionated foregone conclusions or disclusionary evidence that is irrelvant to begin with, which has no basis in sound fact ever as far as I'm concered. (Of either side) So the issue in my mind is not about who "Mother Mary" ever was at any point anyway - as far as I am concerned. And that is because I don't actually give a rat's ass about any of the circumstantial meanings of the dispute to begin with as some who may be staging any of this for natvity recital of ny sort might be worried about. Only the alleged wisdom of the spoken words that arrive from any source ever is all that matters of any of it - period.

And so you speak of it as if of the Biblical interpretations offered by The New Testament", which is only of a later date than the arrival of earlier testimony of that doctrine that concerns Jesus Christ to begin with. And when in fact the Bible itself speaks of scriptures written thousands of years before that subsequent arrival of any disputed "Messiah" who should ever come ever in the first place. (Also)

And so also any later testimonies are only incidental to how certain individuals felt about the occurance of well known and expected to be fulfilled prophecies, as they would personally witness that and have emotions about as concerning. They are not compelling evidence yo begin with but only recorded opinions of what has transpred. And so none of that relates to the prophecies themselves as being factual or relevant issues. Of whether if is of "The Old Testament" or not is also fundamentally irrelevant except that in how you are isnsiting uponm exactness in the point of disscussion when I don't care about opinions you begin with unless they are able to be defended or rejected. What the Bible is - is only a small fraction of the whole of the scriptures that are in existence. Only 36 or so scriptures out of a million of those at least which are in existence. And so what are those as included as concerning to what pertains to the basis of your objection? (Also)

And so if you have testimonies of other more relevant facts - then why can't you offer them up any more politely. Or in any better of a way than by just making them sound like the preposterous ramblings of someone trying to poke fun at some early circumstance - that is so dated that it oustrips any ability to argue it reasonably or rationally to begin with. If these are considered "Holy Evidence" by anyone, then maybe you can bring that to the table as being just plainly that - and somehow maybe mention them also as being only of reverantly acceptably that. Instead of just putting out some cheap shot bait and then sniping at people from shadows when they should choose to respond.

And so also then, No! I am not a Jew, never have been there and would never waste the money to go anywhere near there in the first place. Like Wow! Wanting to go to a place where they will fight to the death of the entire world just to prove that someone is better pointed or aimed at some version or another of a "heaven" than someone else is. Who cares?

[Isaiah Mpski]

Well to begin with you should read very carefully the Book of Revelation(and take notes)then I will answer any questions you have about it.
What we will experience,rather than total annilation,will be a coming together and a formation of a combination of all religions ie myths to a group of ideas that give positive direction toward peace and properity for all.
The question is how to do it and not insult any.
To truly tune this world into positive reality-biglobalism.The Americas and EuroAsiaAfricaAustralia.

What is the great mystery of the New Testament?
Who was JC talking about in John 14:26,15:26,and 16:13?
Mohammed says it was him,most Christians say it is the super-ego,I say He is Me.John D. Son.

[brother shamus]

the wheel keeps on turning...

[lovemanifest]

Hello, my beautiful brothers and sisters.

I live in Prescott, AZ--an easy drive to Hopiland. I understand that the Elders aren't too keen on outsiders just walzing in and wanting to make a connection. But that is what I'd like to do. I would very much like to bring together the wisdom of my Maya Elder frends with the wisdom of the Hopi Elders.

What are your insights on how to begin this process? To just drive up to Oraibi armed only with my charm and good looks isn't quite gonna cut it here.