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Phlash
01-17-2005, 04:26 PM
Not sure what the best place for this is...forgive me if this is not the ideal forum...This morning I woke up and began to recall segments of a vivid dream I just had in which I was walking on a road near an ocean. That was water seemed quite close to shore. I saw a dolphin jump out of the water and into the air. Then, very close to me, I saw a portion of the body of a huge whale gracefully breaking through the surface of the water. The detail was striking. I have never seen a whale in "real life" and never before dreamed of whales.

Later today, while following a trail of prophecey related links emenating from the "urgent message from the Mayan elders" email I received today and which someone else posted elsewhere in the forums, I found the below article about a pod of whales that beached themselves on Saturday in North Carolina (I had not heard about the beaching until I read this). I was quite shaken when I came upon the story. [Here is a link to an actual news story on the topic: http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/01/15/beached.whales.ap/] and here is the page from a Russian Shaman's website where I first learned of this event:

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index664.htm

January 16, 2005

New, And Ominous Warnings Being Given to the Americas

By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Russian Subscribers

As the world continues to reel today from a seeming to be never ending series of global chaotic events, more ominous signs of imminent cataclysmic events are continuing to occur.

Reports have been received today that another warning sign from the whales has now been delivered to the doorsteps of the Americas with the beaching of a large pod of “at least 17” whales in the North Carolina Region of the United States.* Another media report says about this event, "More than 30 pilot whales beached themselves on the coast early Saturday, and at least 15 of them died, officials said."

Prior warnings to the Great Tsunami of 2004 were given by the whales to the peoples of the Indian Ocean region, and where in this news report we can read, "In late November a pod of 53 pilot whales beached themselves at Maria Island less than a day after 97 pilot whales and bottlenose dolphins died on King Island."

Western people continue to be in much amazement with animal warnings, and especially with the news reports from the Indian Ocean region where, it is acknowledged, "Wildlife officials have found no evidence of large-scale animal mortality, instead there was evidence of life - wild and free. Along the Cuddalore coast, where thousands perished, cattle, dogs and other domestic animals survived." , as detailed in this one report titled, “Animal Instincts Can Save” from India.

Animal instincts are so linked to each other, and human beings, and to such a strong extent, that among the hundreds of reports received from the devastated regions we can see that even the elephants worked to save themselves, and also human beings, from mass death. *"Agitated elephants felt the tsunami coming, and their sensitivity saved about a dozen foreign tourists from the fate of thousands killed by the giant waves.” it was reported by media sources from New Zealand.

The connection to human beings also with these warnings can be seen also by independent Swiss Researcher Michael St. Clair in this report from the Australia Magazine Nexus about the 1908 Tunguska Explosion in the Siberian Region of Russia, in which it is said, "Obeying some inner sense and supporting, as it were, the pronouncements of the shamans, the wild animals began to leave. The birds flew from their nesting grounds, the swans left the lakes and the fish disappeared from the rivers. An immense expanse of taiga, measuring several tens of thousands of square kilometers, lost its fauna. Only those who did not believe the shamans' words remained in the danger zone."

Another serious connection between these new whale beachings in the Americas and those prior to the Great Tsunami lie in the geography of the Atlantic Ocean areas similarities to the Antarctica and Indian Ocean waters in both geologic formations and magnetic anomalous features, and as I had previous written about in my report to you, “Continuing Earth Changes Cripple American Submarine and Pose New Dangers for the American Continents", and where was written:

“More interesting in the light of these recent events are that these two events have more in common than their historically rare power in that both the Antarctica event and the Indian Ocean event are connected by their sameness in both geological and magnetic anomalous features, and as previously mapped by scientists.*

One such other area on the earth is known as the Cayman Trough and is located in the Northwest Caribbean Sea.

A number of the world’s top scientists in their fields have reported on this region in a report that in part says, “We review the plate tectonic evolution of the Caribbean area based on a revised model for the opening of the central North Atlantic and the South Atlantic, as well based on an updated model of the motion of the Americas relative to the Atlantic-Indian hotspot reference frame.* We focus on post-83 Ma reconstructions, for which we have combined a set of new magnetic anomaly data in the central North Atlantic between the Kane and Atlantis fracture zones with existing magnetic anomaly data in the central North and South Atlantic oceans and fracture zone identifications from a dense gravity grid from satellite altimetry to compute North America-South America plate motions and their uncertainties.”

Of such concern is there about these events in the West that a group of International scientific researchers are preparing for immediate experiments in the Gulf of Mexico Region. "Marine seismologists from the University of Texas Institute of Geophysics, the Geophysics Institute at Mexico's Autonomous National University and Cambridge and London universities will use underwater seismic pulses to learn more about the Chicxulub (pronounced Sheek-shoo-LOOB) Crater, a depression measuring about 120 miles in diameter and centered just outside the port of Progreso, 190 miles west of Cancun."*

Occurring also today are more warnings signs from the sun with the releasing of yet another Corneal Mass Ejection towards earth from an X Class Flare, and which according to much research will have an even more continuing worsening effect upon the already chaotic weather systems.* As reported by the United States Space Weather Bureau, *"Although the Sun is 150 million kilometers away, the sudden expulsion of particles and gas that we see in solar flares and coronal mass ejections can have a strong effect on the Earth."

Most of the scientific research in the Western nations devoted to sun signs is centered on their economic impact to their growing networks of space satellites and electricity grids and not towards the warnings it provides to people about upcoming drastic weather changes.* The interconnectedness of earth weather, the sun, the planets and our solar systems relationships with other systems in our universe are all ignored.

To ignore these relationships are the cause of much loss of human life, and as the events of the Great Tsunami have shown.* For all of the West’s technological abilities those who had a reliance on them for warnings have all perished.* The animals and the older peoples of the earth who did not rely on the West’s technology were saved.*

To the Americas the warnings are being given now, but very few are listening.* More is their concern for not looking foolish in listening to the many warnings they are being given. To the many of the older peoples warning them also much is the ridicule and scorn.*

Not to these warnings do they heed, not even to those inside of their own souls. “To shoot always the messengers”, as an old Western saying goes and to the silencing of their own inner soul warnings by their medicines, hypnotic television pronouncements by their leaders and much alcohol they turn to instead. **

And, ‘like the shades in a painting, necessary to bring out the light of the composition and the beauty and harmony of the whole’, it has been said about earths great cataclysms, they know nothing about the giant brushstroke about to change the colours of their world.

© January 16, 2005, EU and US all rights reserved.

silentwolf
01-19-2005, 03:45 AM
Well, there was an earthquake in SC over Thanksgiving that was of such a low magnitude they couldn't measure it. They're also taking steps to help fortify government buildings against more quakes; they've been doing this for the past three years because they've been getting signs that the east coast fault line is about ready to rock and roll again. The last significant east coast earthquake was on August 31, 1886 and it's epicenter was near Charleston, SC.

http://www.sfmuseum.org/1906.2/charleston.html

That's a link to the big one...and this next link is some information on the more recent ones.

http://www.csuniv.edu/version3/academics/earthquake/index.asp

dragonfly
01-19-2005, 04:34 AM
When things like this happen, I tend to suspect environmental tampering by humans. The article below appeared in the Washington Post on June 15, 2000. It will be interesting to see what the tests of the recently beached pilot whales turn up.

Navy Tests Linked to Beaching Of Whales
Ear Bleeding Consistent With Intense Noise

By Marc Kaufman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, June 15, 2000; Page A03

Intense underwater noise or explosions caused a mass stranding of healthy beaked whales in the Bahamas in March while the Navy was conducting tests in the area, federal marine specialists said yesterday.

The report to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration does not explicitly conclude that Navy sonar tests or explosions caused the deaths, but it does say the hemorrhages found in or around the animals' ears are consistent with the effects of a "distant explosion, or an intense acoustic event."

The findings are the first ever to link either distant noise or a faraway explosion with a whale stranding, said Darlene Ketten, an auditory specialist at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution who helped conduct necropsies on six of the whales for NOAA. She called the conclusions "a red flag" and "a reason for concern."

In a letter to NOAA also released yesterday, Assistant Secretary of the Navy Robert B. Pirie Jr. wrote that the Navy recognized the Bahamas stranding was "an unusual and significant event" and that the Navy is cooperating in the ongoing investigation of the whale deaths.

If it is ultimately determined that naval sonars can cause trauma in whales, he wrote, "the Navy will reassess its use of sonars in the course of peacetime training and implement measures to ensure the least practicable adverse effect on beaked whales."

The Navy has been experimenting with a variety of high-intensity and low-frequency sonar systems that emit loud blasts of noise underwater, spending $350 million over the past decade. The systems are needed, the Navy says, to track the growing number of quiet, diesel-electric submarines operated near sensitive coastlines by unfriendly nations.

The report was immediately embraced by opponents of Navy acoustic testing as a "smoking gun" that shows new and high-power sonar systems can disorient and kill whales and other sea mammals.

"You are never going to see any clearer evidence that active acoustics like those used by the Navy can cause whales to die," said Andrew Wetzler, an attorney with the Natural Resources Defense Council. They and other environmental groups have been challenging Navy underwater systems since the mid-1990s.

"The Navy is trying to present this as something particular to beaked whales, but we think these systems are a danger to all whales," he said.

About 16 whales and dolphins became stranded on two beaches in the Bahamas in March, and seven of the animals ultimately died. Six of the dead animals were beaked whales, a relatively small (16 to 20 feet) and reclusive species known to dive deeper than most other whales.

Few whale strandings have ever been explained, and most are never even discovered. But the Bahamas stranding was reported quickly, and six of the seven dead animals were in good or excellent shape for necropsy, the animal equivalent of an autopsy.

According to Ketten, the whales were in otherwise good health--showing no signs of disease, malnutrition or poisoning--when they became disoriented and stranded themselves. All six beaked whales had some evidence of tissue trauma associated with hearing, sound production, and air intake, the NOAA report said. The animals that died would have experienced the equivalent of a "really bad headache"--one that would send a human to the hospital, Ketten said.

Many scientists believe that whales and other marine mammals can be harmed by the extremely high-decibel sounds created as part of the Navy's "active" sonar systems, but Ketten said yesterday there wasn't enough evidence yet to make that direct connection in the Bahamas strandings.

In the days preceding and following the stranding, the Navy conducted a number of exercises in the area, including submarine tracking for the Littoral Warfare Advanced Development (LWAD) program. That system uses "active" sonar--which emits very loud sounds that bounce off underwater objects and can identify them better than traditional, "passive" sonar.

The Navy has said that it was using mid-frequency "sonobuoys" during the exercise, but did not use the more controversial low-frequency sonar. Pirie said they did not cause the whale deaths, however, because the animals started to strand themselves before the LWAD exercises began.

But Pirie acknowledged the Navy was reviewing the movement of its ships through the deep Northwest Providence Channel around the Bahamas, and their use of sonar during the exercises. The Navy's report is expected by mid-July. (The Navy also reported that a foreign navy had used "dipping sonar" from a helicopter about 19 hours before the first stranding, but concluded it probably did not cause the strandings either.)

NOAA officials complimented the Navy for its increasing concern about whales and other sea creatures. Last month, the Navy was also forced to abandon plans to test active sonar off New Jersey after the National Marine Fisheries Service concluded the Navy's assessment of potential environmental damage was inadequate.

In 1996, 12 beaked whales also became stranded in Greece during NATO exercises in the Mediterranean Sea that used low-frequency sonar. At the time, the Navy said there was no connection between the exercises and the strandings, and the animals were not sufficiently preserved to study.

dragonfly
01-28-2005, 03:56 AM
As I suspected...

The Washington Post
January 28, 2005
HEADLINE: Whale Stranding in N.C. Followed Navy Sonar Use

Military Says Connection to Death of 37 Animals Is 'Unlikely'

BYLINE: Marc Kaufman, Washington Post Staff Writer

At least 37 whales beached themselves and died along the North Carolina shore earlier this month soon after Navy vessels on a deep-water training mission off the coast used powerful sonar as part of the exercise.

Although the Navy says any connection between the strandings and its active sonar is "unlikely" -- because the underwater detection system was used more than 200 miles from where the whales beached themselves -- it is cooperating with other federal agencies probing a possible link. Government fisheries officials, as well as activists for whales, say the fact that three species of whales died in the incident suggests that sonar may have been the cause.

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration scientists "are looking at all the possible causes of this stranding, which was a significant one," spokeswoman Connie Barclay said. Although the number of whales that came ashore is far from a record for mass strandings, Barclay said that "it's very curious to have three different kinds of whales strand, and a number of possible causes are being examined. Sonar is certainly one of them."

The possible connection between naval sonar and the deaths of whales and other marine mammals has become an increasingly controversial issue since the Navy acknowledged that the loud blasts of its sonar helped cause a mass stranding of whales in the Bahamas in 2000. Since then, critics have accused the Navy of involvement in numerous mass strandings in U.S. and international waters, and federal environmental officials have concluded in some instances that the loud pulses from active sonar cannot be ruled out as a cause.

The North Carolina strandings could be especially problematic for the Navy because it hopes to establish a 500-square-nautical-mile underwater sonar testing range off that coast. The Navy says a draft environmental impact statement is near completion, and officials have said the range is a high priority.

Most of the animals that died in the latest incident were pilot whales, which stranded around the Oregon Inlet of the Outer Banks on Jan. 15. One newborn minke whale also beached at Corolla that day, and two dwarf sperm whales came ashore at Buxton on Jan. 16, locations about 60 miles north and south of the inlet. Six of the pilot whales were pregnant when they died, Barclay said.

None of the three whale species is considered endangered, though NOAA officials say their populations are relatively small and little understood in the Atlantic. But other endangered marine animals -- including right and humpback whales and numerous species of sea turtles -- regularly migrate through the waters off North Carolina.

Navy officials said that the USS Kearsarge Expeditionary Strike Group, based in Norfolk, was conducting an anti-submarine exercise about 240 nautical miles from the Oregon Inlet on Jan. 14 and 15.

In e-mailed answers to questions, the Navy said a review of activities after following the strandings concluded that "no Navy ships were using active sonar within 50 nautical miles radius" of the inlet on Jan. 15 or the four days preceding -- although one ship not associated with the strike group did use sonar for seven minutes about 90 nautical miles south-southeast of Oregon Inlet. The strike group was on its way to a deployment after the training exercise, the Navy said.

Sonar acts as the underwater eyes and ears of the Navy, and intermittent bursts are often used in transit to detect potential enemies and other dangers. In addition, Navy officials increasingly believe that inexpensive quiet submarines from hostile nations pose a potential threat and want to upgrade sonar tracking systems to protect against intrusions into U.S. coastal waters. The Navy now uses mid-frequency sonar for its tracking but wants to deploy a new generation of low-frequency sonar that travels much farther underwater and is more powerful.

The Navy has sometimes been slow to acknowledge that its ships were in an area where strandings occurred and has accepted responsibility only in the Bahamas event. Environmental activists said that track record makes them skeptical of the Navy's statements about the North Carolina strandings.

"The circumstances are troubling," said Michael Jasny, a lawyer for the Natural Resources Defense Council, which has sued the Navy on other sonar-related issues. "After so many whale deaths caused by sonar, these latest strandings are a red flag. . . . Unfortunately, the Navy has a long history of denial."

The Outer Banks area is close to the Norfolk base and on the general course to where the exercises were held.

Most of the stranded whales were dead when they were found, and NOAA scientists are conducting necropsies of many of the animals to try to determine a cause of death. Although pilot whales travel in herds and are prone to strandings, the other two whale species are not, officials said.

Pilot and dwarf sperm whales are both deep-diving animals that feed off the ocean floor and slopes of the continental shelf. The other whale strandings linked to sonar use have also involved deep-diving species, such as the beaked whale. Researchers have theorized that the loud sounds of sonar can damage the whales' sensitive hearing system and cause them to surface too quickly from fright. After another stranding off the Canary Islands in 2002, researchers found unusual gas bubbles in some whale organs -- leading them to conclude that the animals suffered from a form of decompression sickness similar to the bends.

The Navy's plan for an East Coast underwater sonar testing range was first announced in 1996. Since then, the plan has been discussed internally and work on an environmental impact statement has proceeded, with some input from NOAA.

A Navy spokesman said last year that a final decision had not been made on where to locate the test site. But in April, the Atlantic Division of the Naval Facilities Engineering Command said in a statement: "The Navy's preferred site for the range is in the Cherry Point Operating Area located in Onslow Bay, southeast of New River, North Carolina, and approximately 105 km (57 nautical miles) from the North Carolina shoreline."

Buzz
01-28-2005, 09:46 AM
I read that in my local paper this morning dragonfly. Good ole Military Intelligence. I feel so reassured knowing they "doubt" that they had anything to do with it.