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tana
07-17-2006, 03:51 AM
matrixmasters.com has posted the Palenque Norte lecture schedule for this year's Burning Man, and Daniel is scheduled to give a talk titled "Cancel The Apocalypse".

http://www.matrixmasters.com/pn/BM-talks/BM2006PNschedule.html

Daniel, i know you're busy with the book tour right now, but when you get the chance would you mind elaborating a bit on that title? (I can't help being curious.)

Thom
07-17-2006, 03:57 AM
Howdy tana, there's some stuff here by Daniel called cancel ye olde apocalypse

http://2012.tribe.net/thread/70d9f3a2-b585-40b0-8254-073f4bc6e4fb

Breathe a sigh of relief and start paying off your credit card... :eek:

daniel
07-17-2006, 05:01 AM
i feel we have to do some serious deprogramming from our subliminal desire for cathartic destruction of the current order. I am feeling a transition would be preferable to a collapse. It is odd - despite the world sliding toward hell, I have been increasingly optimistic and positive lately. The psychic connections seem to be increasing and accelerating, as the veil is slipping away.

ps- check out the great recent UK crop circles at cropcircleconnector.com.

brother shamus
07-17-2006, 06:39 AM
I will see you at burning man! That place really gives me hope that a collective positive community is possible. The question that seems to remain; Have we passed the tipping point? I have to believe we have a chance or what's the point.

An aside Daniel: About your quote; "look for diamonds on the sidewalk". Did that perchance come from a mushroom experience? I was with two family members in a perfect setting in the forest with no flashlights or artifical lights. After the peak, we were getting ready to leave, and we all saw a point of white light on the ground. It looked like the top of a large diamond buried in the dirt. We tried to touch it but couldn't, although it remained there in full view of all three of us. It wasn't a reflective mineral either as I brushed it and the dirt around it with no effect. There was an overcast sky with lots of trees so no starlight or moonlight either. We all saw several more on the way out of the 'cathedrael of trees'. Are these your 'diamonds'? Dimentional portals? Faeries?

Giselle62
07-17-2006, 08:12 AM
My friend Scott and I were talking the other day about the new age notion that we are creating our own reality and I said "Why would I create a reality like this when I could create a reality wherein women in white dresses were dancing freely on top of a mountaintop?" and he said "Well it's not just you who is creating it, a whole bunch of people are creating this..." and I said "That sucks"
a few moments later, on Vh1 this video started playing where these women with big 80's hair, in white dresses, started twirling and dancing on a mountaintop!" and it was bad! We both laughed.
(It was the video from the late 80's "Hero" or "I Need a Hero, or whatever it's called.)

tana
07-17-2006, 12:57 PM
thanks for the info daniel and thom. i'm not going to the festival, but i hope to be able to download the talk from lorenzo's site.

thanks also daniel for presenting such a perspective...yes, it is more transition than collapse and yes, it is overwhelmingly positive.

sidecross
07-17-2006, 02:32 PM
Terrence McKenna often spoke about the birth process in relation to one who had never seen or heard about it.

To come upon a woman giving birth such a person would think the worst. They would think here is a person appearing to have a gigantic tumor, moaning and groaning shedding blood and other body fluids. Yet this is the beginning of a new being.

Our hope, or at least mine, is that we are in a birthing process and what may appear to be the demise is the possibility of a new birth.

Those who see only the dark side may conclude it will be a still born; I do not.

gandydancer
07-18-2006, 12:34 AM
Our hope, or at least mine, is that we are in a birthing process and what may appear to be the demise is the possibility of a new birth.
smile.gif

And there is no way to tell just how long the birth will take...

It took thirteen hours of labour for my daughter Jane to be born so many years ago.

But it went quite differently when Jane gave birth to Helena Rose a few years ago. Helena's papa rushed around madly downstairs gathering towels, putting the barking dog out, turning up the heat, talking on the cell phone with the midwife who was on her way, and rushing back upstairs to see their 2 1/2 year old son with his hand on the baby's head, a smile on his face, and saying, "Look Daddy, the baby's here". From the first twinge of labor to the birth of the baby it was 42 minutes flat!

GreenLoki
08-10-2006, 08:54 AM
Howdy everyone!

I agree with Daniel's idea, there is plenty of opportunity for positive transition amidst the coming crash of the current order. I definitely admit that it is easy to fantasize more on the destruction scenarios, so it is really good to hear of new paths of healing that we can create in healing Gaia. I've been thinking of a few. (If this idea is a repeat of what someone has already thought/published then all credit to that person. The thought hit me today, but it may have been previously spoken.)
Here's a wild thought: the green lawns of American Suburbia . . . what is their purpose? Aside from looking nice, what is their function? Exactly, nothing. Unless you are raising some form of "livestock" (I personally don't like that particular nomenclature) lawns are only a visually pleasing drain of precious fresh-water. But consider the opportunities that can be created from this dead-end. What if instead of growing grass, the space were to be converted into gardens? An instant transition- No, but, it is very possible to rework the soil and utilize the existing irrigation system to grow fruits and vegetables. It would take a team of gardeners creating a method of transition that can be documented and posted online or in book form based on readily available lawn/home tools. Such a work would largely incubate on the margins of public attention . . . until the consequences of our global irresponsibility comes back to threaten the food-supply and distribution system, thus shocking attention into action. Imagine the possibilities of a suburbia transformed from its current leech-like state into a position of food supply, negating the panic/starvation of nearby metropolitan areas. A few home and communities with the foresight to start this trend could pioneer the process and make it come to be. Imagine . . . and let me know what you think.

There's nothing that can't be done. tongue.gif

lovemanifest
08-10-2006, 10:01 AM
Aim high, people. Don't concern yourselves with the opinions of fearmongers, those in denial, or those who will continue with this whole 3D business. Send them love and light, and then get on with what you came here to do. Focus on what you want, and stop with the masturbatory imaginings of doosmday scenarios. Eyes on the prize, Violet, eyes on the prize.
Earth needs healing, no doubt about it. But does it really need to be a cataclysmic event like in the past? I don't think so. If humanity can reconnect with the creative power of thought, feelings and intent (before the shit hits the fan, mind you), we win.
But even if we don't get it together by then, it's really not for you to worry too much about. Investigate and experience reality for yourself and then share that with others. They'll either get it or they won't. Some people want to ride the bomb and wave their cowboy hat. Let em.
I think there will be a definitive moment when our world jumps the spiral. Maybe a blink of an eye, maybe one spin of the planet, I don't know. Whatever it is, I want to be ecstatic about the creation I helped to birth. That means I'm doing the creating now. We are. The clock ticks while it can. ;)

Agent Smith
08-10-2006, 03:01 PM
cancel the apocalypse... now where have i heard that before...

okster
08-10-2006, 03:29 PM
Regarding transforming suburban lawns into gardens:

A new book on this very subject comes out soon (OCT 1) called Food Not Lawns (How to Turn Your Yard into a Garden and Your Neighborhood into a Community):
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/193339207X/

See also:

Gardening for the Future of the Earth
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0553375334/

Gardening When it Counts (Growing Food in Hard Times)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/086571553X/

And I have a large bibliography of "plant books", including lots of permaculture, organic gardening, edible plants, etc, here:

http://www.ionet.net/~tslade/hortbook.htm

Of course we must envision and work towards a positive future. I gotta admit I have a hard time getting around the increasing planetary destruction. Hard to see things turning out good on this planet in the near future - although I trust that they could - if enough people can change or if we get some really big help from "above" or somewhere. Food is certainly a basic thing and I think most people would find it fun to grow food if they tried it. And even a little bit of gardening should help people to then think about water, soil, pesticides, healthy food, etc.I am pretty excited about the Food not Lawns book. I actually mow lawns for a living! My heart is certainly not into ornamental landscaping or lawncare anymore. Probably lots of people could be making livings helping people with their food gardens. It has been a hard summer in Oklahoma this year - temperatures over 100 for a few weeks now, including lots of 105-110, which I don't think I've seen before. (catfish are dying in rivers - the water is so hot). And almost no rain for almost a year. And I'm still dealing with the article that someone posted here recently about how the entire Amazon rain forest may turn into a desert NEXT YEAR, making the ENTIRE PLANET UNINHABITABLE. And I think the figure is 200,000 acres PER DAY of rainforest (worldwide) being destroyed. Things like that cannot be ignored. Or actually I guess they can, which is why they keep happening. (anyone notice world war three starting up?) But I don't think it is right to ignore the problems. Anyway you look at it though, man oh man we got some work to do.

Humming
08-10-2006, 06:20 PM
"My friend Scott and I were talking the other day about the new age notion that we are creating our own reality and I said "Why would I create a reality like this when I could create a reality wherein women in white dresses were dancing freely on top of a mountaintop?" and he said "Well it's not just you who is creating it, a whole bunch of people are creating this..." and I said "That sucks"
a few moments later, on Vh1 this video started playing where these women with big 80's hair, in white dresses, started twirling and dancing on a mountaintop!" and it was bad! We both laughed.
(It was the video from the late 80's "Hero" or "I Need a Hero, or whatever it's called.)"

Wow, Giselle62. That was a deep teaching.

When I hear stories like that, I wish more people could experience synchronicity... For me it is always very powerful: finding the connections between things in an unexpected way, in the strangest places.

For instance, today I went to a meditation gathering at my friend's home. The teacher did what he called a "Quetzalcoatl initiation" that involved singing and drumming and "celestial language". I was simultaneously surprised and not surprised to once again meet Quetzalcoatl. Sometimes that spirit seems to pop up in places that I would never expect...

GreenLoki
08-11-2006, 09:13 AM
Great info, thanks okster!

Yah, I had a feeling that this idea existed out there somewhere. I appreciate the sites, I'll check 'em out. I actually used to have a lawn mowing business as well, lots of time to meditate and contemplate as you mow back and forth, at that's what I found smile.gif The oil industry and the devastation of the rainforest actually brings to mind strong parallels to Tolkien's mythology of Ungoliant, the great spider of ceaseless greed and insatiable appetite, sucking dry the Trees of Telperion and Laurelin that causes the fall of Valinor . . . how the power of myth from all ages and cultures unites in the coming end of this age.
(A quick note, or question on Burning Man, if anyone in the Pacific Northwest (Portland, Seattle, Spokane) area has any connection for transportation/tickets/help with gigs/shows totally let me know, I'm desperate to get there but I just got back from living in Europe and my connections are yet to be set. Thanks a ton!)

brother shamus
08-11-2006, 06:29 PM
Hey Greenloki: We are Tikidom, tikidom.com, check out our forum for the skinny on portland burners and I sent you an email. Our group is leaving at different times so let's talk. b

David L
09-09-2006, 05:05 PM
Is there any audio or video of Daniels talk at the burn this yr?

albente
09-10-2006, 04:42 AM
Interesting that sidecross mentions Terrence McKenna.

To detour from Daniels possible talk on Buring Man (give the man a break) this video just crossed my way and is absolutely staggering:
2012 as short circuit with the future:

Rupert Sheldrake/Terrence McKenna (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2706197677692295313&q=sheldrake)
http://www.artagents.de/daten/kuenstler/ene-liis_semper/bilder/gross/ene-liis_semper_1oasis.jpg

Here a beautiful short continuation where Mark Pesce speculates that the time machine is a word actually.
Pesce (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3414658316753802189&q=mckenna)

[ September 11, 2006, 07:35 AM: Message edited by: albente ]