LSA

[ryan]

I recently heard about LSA, a compund similiar to LSD. I was wondering of anyone has done it and what their experience was like.

[Halfglass]

Morning glory seeds. Trip somewhat like LSD with 500 seeds. I tried 'em and didn't notice much (years ago) but a friend gave me a quarter of a bucket full so I'm thinking about trying some in the not too distant future. As always go to erowid.com and hit "Morning Glory". Peace.

[Cosmic Rider]

Yes i Have i got it from Alice Gray (the artist for tool) it was on blotter, i did 3 and learned like 40 years about my self in the 12 hours.
it was like my mind was on play with no pause or stop absolute flowing thoughs and very liberated

iv done 4 other times each one a beautiful time
Less psychedelic than LSD but dont let that stop you

if i could give to everyone in the world it could do alot of good

[Morninggloryseed]

LSA is not one drug, but many. LSA referes to all of the amides of lysergic acid found in morning glory seeds. Lysergic acid amide (LA-111) is the main one found, but isn't much of a psychedelic. More a sedative. Either way, it isn't something you are going to find on blotter paper. Whatever you took, it wasn't LSAs.

[ March 29, 2003, 04:20 AM: Message edited by: Morninggloryseed ]

[Cosmic Rider]

It was on liquid and we blotted it, it was lsa we got it straight from the chemist extracted from morning glory i am quite sure. Maybe you will come a cross it and have a trip:}

[Jomo]

Morning glory didn't do a lot for me, but I caught some amazing trips off of Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds (Argyreia nervosa). I did a lot of Woodrose when I was in college circa 1977-1979.

The drawback to them is nausea, which increased cumulatively the more I used them, so that I had to quit, and for all the years since then, the mere word Woodrose is enough to make me feel queasy again.

The benefit to them is a magnificent sensation of total existential euphoria. No real visuals to speak of, but vision is heightened and the soul is expanded to a better place. I felt I had achieved moksha, final liberation. The toxic body load from the seeds, the apparent cessation of breathing and heartbeat, produced a couple of very convincing death simulations. Once, at the peak of a trip, I became thoroughly convinced for almost a half hour that I was actually dead. There was no fear — only calm, interesting observation of letting go and embracing the Beyond.

[Anonymous]

Keep in mind that LSA is a schedule III drug in the US, and it is regulated elsewhere too. This may or may not be an issue for the serious entheogenic explorer, but it needs to be said, because people are often under the impression that LSA is a "legal high." It isn't.

I agree with Jomo that Argyreia nervosa is a better source of ergine (LSA-111) than morning glories, but if you decide to go that route, make sure that you get your seeds from a serious and trusted supplier of ethnobotanicals. There are many seeds which are sold as HBWR that are worthless. I've known several people who have purchased seeds on ebay, and none of these folks have been satisfied. Caveat emptor!

If you decide to go the route of LSA, there are a few techniques that can be used to reduce or eliminate the nauea:

It turns out that the components of the seeds which cause nausea can be removed from a de-fatting of the seeds. Seeds should first be well-cleaned by removing the fuzzy outer coating. Next, the seeds can be pulverized or ground, and the material can be soaked in a non-polar solvent (like naphtha) for a few hours. Decant the solvent from the seed mush and allow it to dry *completely*, discarding the solvent. Once the mush is dry, it can be soaked in 190-proof ethanol for a few days. After soaking, the ethanol can be decanted from the seed material and optionally filtered. The seed mush can be discarded -- the ethanol contains the actives. In all of the above keep the materials out of direct sunlight; LSA is a little fragile, and the UV light in sunlight will seriously degrade it.

The above will make it possible to take the LSA without much nausea (if any), but it still wont make it pleasant. LSA is a serious vasoconstrictor, and some people have problems with leg cramps, numb extremities, etc. Other people do not seem to be very sensitive to these effects.

One other word of caution: Argyreia nervos exists is two varieties (Argyreia nervos and Argyreia nervos spp. speciosa), and while they both contain LSA, they can differ in strength by several hundred percent. A reasonable "shamaic" does of these seeds could be anywhere between three and 15 seeds. Unless you know the strength of the seeds you are using though careful bioassy, *please* start slowly and carefully!

[fungus44]

I recently tried 150 ground Morning Glory seeds.

I didn't harvest them, so the species was slightly unknown. I caught a very special psychic burn several hours after ingestion.

I've planted the rest of the seeds so I look forward to seeing them.

[kris ifans]

Thoroughly washed and ground only 250 Morning Glory seeds and did a cold water extraction and had one of the most insightful trips of my life. The day after though had some leg cramps and an hour sitting in the bathroom reading over my notes from the day before to convince myself it was worth it...

[ January 09, 2004, 02:50 AM: Message edited by: kris ifans ]

[woodard_8@msn.com]

www.RealKava.com (http://www.RealKava.com) is the most reliable source for fresh bhwr seeds. 12-18 seeds is alright for me but my buddy needs 24. If seeds are treated correctly you wont get sick, just do your research.

[VeganReich]

I tryed mornign glories about 2 weeks ago. I had tried LSD twice before each time only one hit and I only got a slight body high comparably to one hit og mexican dirt weed. I washed and then chewed 9 grams of seeds. In about 30 minutes I started feelign sick and layed down. lights seemed brighter and i had a few body and mind rushes or euphoria. About two hours after I took the seeds I puked my guts out, after that i felt much better. Not really any visuals to speak of but the body high was amazing and the mental high was night. I was in a generally euphoric mood. I didnt feel like getting up to do anything but I descided to go on a bike ride by the ocean which was absolutly beautiful. I ended up goin to bed about 7 hour after i took the seeds and had the best nights sleep of my life.
I tryed it again 2 days later, same dose but I ground them up with a flour grinder first. I didnt feel anything from this dose. 5 days after that over a period of 2 hours or so I took about 18 grams of ground MG seeds. I felt nothing from this dose either (lucky for me I guess because I was called into work unexpectaly). I guess it was just short term tolerance. Does anyone know what the tolerance period for LSA is? And is it crosses tolerant with shrooms like LSD is?