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Richard Gabriel
05-06-2009, 01:21 PM
2012, And the Historical reason we should prepare Now


While the world speculates on the possibilities or even probabilities relating to 2012, there are a few directions wide open for investigation that may still put meat to the subject.

Inexorably the question of what may or may not happen in 2012 ties to the question of our own origins. Our minds have already been opened through advances in earth science through quantum to the reality of other dimensions of existence. DNA research has shown our genetic pool narrows back, as at the centre point of an hour glass, to a time of catastrophe ten and a half thousand years ago. The results postulate our genetic pool must have been fed before then from a much wider population. These facts alone beg the possibility that we have had plenty of historical time to advance as a race, and be almost lost again to the cataclysmic changes on the planet.

Factual and anecdotal evidence have built up a compelling picture on the other hand to say that somewhere in our distant past, we used technology that defies explanation in today’s terms. Whether it be stories of ancient races and a planetary inundation buried in the collective consciousness of just about every race on earth; or whether it be surviving artefacts needing technology out of their time and in advance of our own, these things are officially dismissed, discounted, ridiculed, or overstepped.

We know also our world is filled with compelling information pointing to the fact of exterrestial visitors. This information sits well with the hard evidence from our accepted ancestors demonstrating knowledge of the cosmos that we are only just catching up to now. Archaeology rooted in current history strives to support the anthropological view of Neolithic creatures emerging with sticks and spears, but contradicts their apparent ability also to be master stone masons, mathematicians, scientists, and cosmologists. On the face of things, nothing fits.

But it does fit if we dare to pull all these factors together and look for logic in them. For the sake of the argument, let us imagine all aspects are rooted in fact. Let us say that there was a Darwinian evolvement on this Planet. Let us take that development back a few million years earlier than accepted, to locate the first emerging humanoid forms.

Let us take a sidestep, and accept the logic that our vast time in history, is actually less than a heartbeat of development in cosmic terms, and the notion therefore of greater development in other life forms elsewhere in the cosmos, is blindingly sensible. Let us presuppose our planet attracted interest in the mists of time from other visitors, (and I will explain later why it would be a matter much more simple than physical science for such a contact to be found.)

But before continuing, there is one other factor to add. This author through personal experience has a living conviction of the dimensions of valid reality outside or beyond physical. A similar acceptance once again can be traced in the consciousness of races around the world. It has been suppressed by the hand of modern man at times such as during the Roman Councils, who wrote-out the belief of afterlife/reincarnation on pain of death. This was done for expediency and to increase the power of conditioning over the masses. We have accepted the modifications enforced through controlled religion at the price of liberated knowledge. But the world has moved forward and today we are again emerging as free thinkers armed with progressive science and an awakening personal consciousness.

It is just straight logic that any advanced race, exterrestial or otherwise, would have a working knowledge of these other life dimensions. We know beyond quantum, the constraints of physical matter and science do not apply. There, we have to apply a science which is also rooted beyond quantum. This is a science which understands the instant recognition between corresponding states of vibrating substance. It is the science which understands how someone can know in the exact moment, when something traumatic has happened to a loved one thousands on miles away. It is the science also that would allow advanced humanoids to home-in on the collective vibrational signature of a planet and its life across billions of miles of lost space, without the need of a single physical probe!

So now we can run the scenario forward. This story tells of how our planet was visited eons ago by more advanced humanoids. DNA experimentation took place and led to the memory we have of mutated life forms and giants in our mythological past. Our predecessors were not alone however, and other forms staked their claim. Their involvements here spanned a vast time through natural cosmic and planetary changes. At some stage their knowledge led to an awareness of huge cosmic changes that could potentially lead to their destruction on this planet. Most of them departed under a mutual agreement to leave us alone to our evolving destiny. The DNA patterns for our future development had been stabilised and there would only be a few chosen leaders who would remain to lead an exodus to the parts of the world which would remain relatively safe.

Hmmm!! It does not take much thought however to figure; if there was such a catastrophe as it seems, wreaking planetary destruction through global inundation, there must be ‘some’ surviving evidence of their long occupation. Satellite imaging allows us to see the effects of a past inundation such as in the desert areas of Egypt and elsewhere. The inundation would have re deposited unimaginable levels of silt across formerly occupied land. These would have been eroded away in many places by receding waters, and any predominating shore line would have become home to races evolving from the survivors. Beneath their feet however, buried in the silt and even the calcified remains from thousands of following years of marine growth, theirs and our ancestral remnants lie buried. The best tool to penetrate the ground and find physical evidence, is from ground penetrating radar, and guess what; we know that governments have funded such a thing.

We know for example in Egypt, sites have been earmarked for further investigation, and at least one site where we are able to supply copious detail may be just such a site. The story and photographs can be examined through the following link. (Scroll down to “Explosions in the Western Desert”)
http://www.richardgabriel.info/page1.INDEX%20PAGE.html

Would it be too cynical to imagine there is a covert driving force behind the seeming barrier to ‘open’ information whenever ancient discoveries are made or investigated? Just look at the decades of shenanigans over what lies below Giza!

Would it be too unthinkable to gather another set of modern facts together which say the authorities accept and are preparing for a time of cosmic and human change, as we pass through 2012.

The facts I speak of would include the following examples:
Official telescopes pointing to the area of sky where others believe we will see the coming of a returning planetary body. The Vatican even has one in the Arizona desert!!
Scalar technology of unimaginable power tying to the lore of ancient legend.
Quantum advances already exploring the fabric of matter beyond physical, while its effect has been used militarily for years.
Vast underground facilities covertly constructed in many countries.
The suppression or ridicule of any physical discoveries that point to our ancient ancestors.
The covert suppression for centuries of anything that dares to challenge through UFO sightings, Contacts, Recoveries, Crop Circles, Ancient writings, new science and more; the establishment monopoly on the truth.
The continued official denial to face up to the reality of beyond physical dimensions and the ability we all have to interact with them.

If all I have described is true, we must ask the question as to why the establishment would do such a thing. If it is true, we have to remember that we then are our own ancestors, seeded in the cosmos with a whole advanced family out there waiting to lend an open hand when our civilization comes under terminal threat. If we presuppose also that some of our ancestors turned back to sensation in a struggle for power; and in the process through misuse of scalar and crystalline directed energies, they hastened their own destruction, we can understand how their DNA would surface in attitudes today. The same battle for possession and power would be manifest, as it is indeed.

It is incumbent upon the descendants of those who stood for service to others and lost the fight last time that we do not let the controllers and suppressors get away with a single thing this time.

And as to 2012 itself? Personally, it is 30 years since I had my grand Event where my mind was opened up to remember. It is 30 years since I recalled the knowledge that by 2010 we would already be entering a period of cosmic transformation. I knew of No one else then who followed the same thoughts. There was no internet and mass communication as now. I faced the ridicule and looked forward to the future I expected. I understood the seamless process of interaction to higher coherent life levels beyond physical. I knew that existence depends at its core on vibration and motivation. I have seen how the world has auspiciously gravitated to higher vibration, polarising attitudes, destroying ivory towers, and preparing the galaxy. I have seen how the detractors offer conflict and force resistance. I know how certain authorities in global cooperation are suppressing the truth about what we face on our planet within the cosmic picture. Openly we may only have a gathering of anecdotal information to support what is really happening, but sooner or later, cosmic forces and the open presence of our friends beyond this planet, will lay it all bare. As we pass through the cusp of 2012 the vibrational state of this planet will be raising to its highest level in a cosmic epoch. The activity of our planets and the Sun will reveal this. We will likely see the presence of another planetary body and its associated satellites moving closer to our system. From this, the effects we are already seeing will increase and will lead to geological movements not witnessed in our modern history. The reincarnate process will continue, but as we look forward to our next age, those remaining in physical life will face a return to basics and the bottom of the spiritual class again; while those moving on will either integrate with our returning friends from elsewhere, or will continue a far better life on a higher Earth, which to them will seem like a transformed better version of the one we are screwing up at the moment.

What can we do? Well for a start, we need to scream from the top of our voices every time we encounter information suppression on any of these things. You will be busy!!

Otherwise…. Just be open and aware to the signs. Reserve your mind, but miss nothing. When faced with any of the cataclysms to come, you will be able to nod your head knowingly and get on with the job of helping anyone else who does not have the same ability.

Blessings
Richard.

Isaiah Mpski
06-05-2009, 04:00 AM
"Enough Vit C will cure anything"

Linus Pauling,about 30 yrs ago in the introducton of the Book about Chelation written by Dr Cranford.

And indeed,it is a miracle drug when administered IV.

EDTA might even cure AIDS.
I have gathered enough of two,unexploited herbs to begin clinical trials with.Both deal with lung diseases,lung cancer and bronchitis.I am neglecting the things that have to be done so those drugs can be brought to the floor.
That's one of about ten reasons I need your help SB.So that others may be helped.I have almost given up on Willow and DC.My family left the Old Testament a long time ago
I neglect and abuse myself when i am overworked and have little help.
Thank Gott I am a physician and know a little about how things work.

Richard,I don't think you appreciate the fact that the American Indian survived 10,000 yrs before contact with the black or white man,and their accompponing(sp) Neanderthals.

sidecross
06-05-2009, 07:54 AM
Richard you might rather write fiction than spew your half baked ideas.

For those other than you who read book reviews instead of the book, others might enjoy the book: Prehistory: The Making of the Human Mind by Colin Renfrew.

http://www.amazon.com/Prehistory-Making-Modern-Library-Chronicles/dp/0679640975/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1244216153&sr=1-4

This web site once a bright spot for thought and discussion may have run its course and is now just a collection fluff and pure bull shit.

Isaiah Mpski
06-05-2009, 10:39 AM
My,my,my.
Getting a bit stressful out there in the land of fruits and nuts eh Sidecross?
Wait till the big one hits,then you'll wish you had taken a vacation.;)

I think part of it comes from them Arabs gittin down on their hands and knees praying.:skeptic:

Richard Gabriel
06-07-2009, 09:25 AM
sidecross,

Since it is the easiest thing in the world to throw book titles into the air, why not do away with the need for any articles of elucidation completely.
It would be a brilliant way to save time and build up a library of titles for others on the web to browse. Maybe we could even link up with Amazon and bring the site some advertising revenue from it.

sidecross, since you are an exponent of this practice I salute your initiative. So much easier to quote someone else as a lifetime source of material than having to go into the tiresome detail of our own experience and assessment.

Not only that, it safeguards the chance of anyone else being able to dissect the product of your own mind. Sheer brilliance! Simply supply fluff and bullshit, and accuse everyone else of doing the same regardless.

Phew, I wish I had thought of doing that.

Blessings
Richard

sidecross
06-07-2009, 12:05 PM
Richard

I have read the books that I leave a link too.

Richard Gabriel
06-07-2009, 03:54 PM
sidecross, with respect mon ami. I am not niggling just for the sake of it, nor trying to be deliberately aggravating. I am just making this simple point:

There is noting wrong in quoting books of course. But when you are trying to exchange discussion with someone, it is far more enriching when each party makes their point or reciprocal point from their own conclusion or from their own conclusion backed by their own experience.
Then it is fair play to follow it up with any source links for deeper research.

I don't write posts nor respond to others on the basis of a big finger pointing at someone else's work. That's all I am trying to say.
I have no wish to bump heads for the sake of it with you nor anyone. Life is too short. But so help me, if I make any point, I 'will' back it up from my own tested experience. Whether right or wrong it is then a product of my own mind being offered up for examination. In the pursuit of greater truth or awareness would you not agree it is surely the fairest approach?

Richard

sidecross
06-07-2009, 04:46 PM
Richard

“…DNA research has shown our genetic pool narrows back, as at the centre point of an hour glass, to a time of catastrophe ten and a half thousand years ago. The results postulate our genetic pool must have been fed before then from a much wider population. These facts alone beg the possibility that we have had plenty of historical time to advance as a race, and be almost lost again to the cataclysmic changes on the planet…”

The above quote you wrote is counter to the book I mentioned and posted a link too. According to the author we human beings have not changed our DNA or other physical properties in 100,000 years.

Obviously by the length of your posts you enjoy writing which is fine. My writing style is more like an editor. I read quite a large amount of material and when I find someone writing something as well as I could I post it.

Obviously if I felt what I post could be said in a better way I would take the time to write it myself. The problem is not enough people writing, but rather too many people writing without enough information. The quote of yours is counter to what the book I read writes about.

Isaiah Mpski
06-07-2009, 04:52 PM
Joe Brown for Supreme Court Judge.

Richard Gabriel
06-07-2009, 10:49 PM
sidecross, the following abstract 'also' argues against the DNA hourglass model while recognising its legitimacy as a contender. I have posted a snip below which illustrates this.

However, the one thing that is not proposed; and which would explain the discrepancy, is an answer which would satisfy 'both' models. If at a time during the Pleistocene, there was outside interference with our DNA to give it a directional kick start, we would indeed be sourced from the other side of a wider artificial hourglass! To the geneticist now, straining back to the Neandetals, it may then seem the long neck theory was right. (Unfortunately this proposal though snug and oft proposed, is a step too far towards conjecture until now, for the purists to even consider)

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Genetic traces of ancient demography
Henry C. Harpending, Mark A. Batzer, Michael Gurven, Lynn B. Jorde, Alan R. Rogers, and Stephen T. Sherry; (+multiple citations)

Genetic methods and data are providing fresh perspectives on a long-standing debate about the origins of our species, which, in its simple form, can be summarized as two competing hypotheses. The multiregional hypothesis suggests that modern humans evolved directly from archaic forms in several different locations in the Old World. Gene flow among these populations, combined with natural selection for advantageous genes, maintained genetic homogeneity of the species. Under this hypothesis, our species had hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of ancestors for most of the last million years. Without a large population, gene flow among populations distributed widely over the temperate and tropical Old World would have been impossible.

The other hypothesis is called variously the Garden of Eden, the Noah’s Ark, or the single origin model. According to this hypothesis, a specific population ancestral to modern humans underwent demographic expansion and populated those parts of the world occupied by archaics and then beyond into northern parts of Eurasia and eventually the New World. The contribution of archaic populations to the modern gene pool was negligible. The number of our ancestors just before the expansion (“origin”) of modern humans was small, only several thousand breeding adults.

A clear difference between these two hypotheses is the implied size of the past human population. If the size of the human population had been large throughout much of its history, extant genetic variation should be substantial. Conversely, a small human population would result in relatively little genetic variation. Many genetic systems provide reassuringly congruent estimates: all indicate that human genetic variation is relatively low and that the approximate “effective” size (i.e., the number of breeding adults) of humans is on the order of 10,000 (2, 3). Because several thousands or even tens of thousands of humans could not have occupied the whole temperate Old World, genetic data provide strong support for the single origin hypothesis. Archaeological and skeletal evidence also generally support some version of the single origin hypothesis (4, 5).

The genetic relationship between modern humanity and the world population of archaics at, say, a half million years ago is still unspecified. If the small effective size of humans reflects a transient but drastic reduction in size of a large population, and subsequent recovery, then before the reduction, the number of our ancestors was large, and a graph of our population history looks like an hourglass. By contrast, if we are descended from a subpopulation of archaic humans that was effectively a separate species for the last million years or so, then the graph of our population history is a bottleneck, a short bottle and a very long neck.

The hourglass hypothesis posits that there was a contraction in the number of our ancestors at some time during the Pleistocene, perhaps before the last interglacial, but specifies that the small ancestral population that later expanded had been part of a network of gene flow over the whole temperate Old World occupied by archaic humans before the contraction. In other words, if the genes in the small founding population of modern humans were traced backward in time, they would be dispersed over a large part of the Old World in a population of hundreds of thousands to millions, as in the multiregional hypothesis. Humanity’s small apparent effective size is the result of loss of genetic diversity during the contraction.

The long-neck hypothesis, in contrast, posits that the small ancestral population was small during most of the Pleistocene, for the last million years or so, and that genes in this population traced backward in time were restricted to the range of the particular species of archaic humans that were our ancestors. The essential difference in the two hypotheses is the effective size before the constriction in the middle or upper Pleistocene. They have different consequences for the shape of trees of descent of nuclear genes. Below we show that there is no support in current genetic data for the hourglass hypothesis, whereas the long-neck hypothesis finds strong support.

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As said above, this study does go on at great length to present the safe model for our beginnings, (in the absence of any solid evidence to show other interference) Watch this space mon ami...
We belong to a good number of people who have personally 'seen' things that can only have been created by the hand of an advanced previous civilisation on this planet. (Below Giza)

Egypt holds the key, and when the metaphorical flood gates are forced open in the next short period of time, a lot of your sources will be throwing out their convenience models (too late) in favour of the true model for it all.

Judith just picked up on this possible nugget for example. There are hundreds however, (among the rubbish,) which still withstand the test of examination...

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MISSOURI'S BURIED CITY.

A STRANGE DISCOVERY IN A COAL MINE NEAR MOBERLY.

St. Louis, Mo., April 8 - The city of Moberly, Mo. is stirred up over the discovery of a wonderful buried city, which was discovered at the bottom of a coal shaft, 360 feet deep, which was being sunk near the city.

A hard and thick stratum of lava arches in the buried city. the streets of which are regularly laid out and inclosed by walls of stone, which is cut and dressed in a fairly good, although rude, style of masonry.

A hall 30 by 160 feet was discovered, wherein were stone benches and tools of all descriptions for mechanical service. Further search disclose statues and images made of a composition closely resembling bronze, lacking lustre.

A stone fountain was found, situated in a wide court or street, and from it a stream of perfectly pure water was flowing, which was found to be strongly impregnated with lime.

Lying beside the foundation were portions of the skeleton of a human being. The bones of the leg measured, the femur four and one-half feet, the tibia four feet and three inches, showing that when alive the figure was three times the size of an ordinary man, and possessed of a wonderful muscular power and quickness.

The head bones had separated in two places, the sagittal and the caronal sutures having been destroyed. The implements found embrace bronze and flint knives, stone and granite hammers, metallic saws of rude workmanship, but proved metal, and others of similar character; they are not so highly polished, nor so accurately made as those now finished by our best mechanics, but they show skill and an evidence of an advanced civilization that are very wonderful.

The facts above given are vouched for by Mr. David Coates, the Recorder of the city of Moberly and Mr. George Keating, city Marshal who were of the exploring party.

A further extended search will be made in a day or two.
http://www.wunderkabinett.co.uk/damndata/index.php?/archives/1806-An-underground-city-of-giants-beneath-Moberly,-Missouri.html

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And so the debate goes on.

Richard

This is our personal contribution
http://www.richardgabriel.info

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Isaiah Mpski
06-08-2009, 03:44 AM
Are you Neanderthal?
Or worse yet a Scientolgist.

I consider myself a transcendentalist.I left Egypt a long time ago.

There two things about Egyptian history that stands out.
To get to the top of the pyramid you have to climb upward and inward.
Secondly there is a unique relationship that exists between humans and cats,thus the sphnix.

sidecross
06-08-2009, 05:37 AM
Instead of an ‘Hour Glass’ analogy for dramatic change in Homo sapiens divergence I would write that the domestication of animals and agriculture were the turning point of human existence. This happened 13,000 or 12,000 years ago.

It was at this divergence that we changed the Homo sapiens from being a part of nature to a species that tried to control and subjugate nature.

We are part of the hominoid family to have ever used and control the use of fire. This has been dated to 1.4 million years ago and long before we evolved into Homo sapiens.

Richard Gabriel
06-09-2009, 02:48 PM
Better look over your shoulder IM... They could be stirring in your back yard right now :-)
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The latest news of the progress of the explorations of what is now regarded by scientists as not only the oldest archeological discovery in the United States, but one of the most valuable in the world, which was mentioned some time ago in the Gazette, was brought to the city yesterday by G.E. Kinkaid, the explorer who found the great underground citadel of the Grand Canyon during a trip from Green River, Wyoming, down the Colorado, in a wooden boat, to Yuma, several months ago.

According to the story related to the Gazette by Mr. Kinkaid, the archaelogists of the Smithsonian Institute, which is financing the expeditions, have made discoveries which almost conclusively prove that the race which inhabited this mysterious cavern, hewn in solid rock by human hands, was of oriental origin, possibly from Egypt, tracing back to Ramses. If their theories are borne out by the translation of the tablets engraved with heiroglyphics, the mystery of the prehistoric peoples of North America, their ancient arts, who they were and whence they came, will be solved. Egypt and the Nile, and Arizona and the Colorado will be linked by a historical chain running back to ages which staggers the wildest fancy of the fictionist.
http://www.crystalinks.com/gc_egyptconnection.html
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An' me a scientologist... naw!! I be just another person!

Now Neantethal ... that could be closer. At least they didn't have to queue at the checkout!

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sidecross, my neandethal buddy OG has something to say about this.
Oh yeah seriously... when he was born they knew he was a throwback when he chewed through his first crib at 6 months.

Age 2 he was out on the shooting range. Somebody said fire, and he nearly got his head blown off trying to smell what direction it was coming from.

Anyway... The point is.. I asked him if he had any regrets about his origins.
He said he wished they hadn't buggered around using those hubs as hula hoops... He reckoned if they'd used them as wheels it would have been a bloody site easier hauling those hundred tonners into place!

Richard

sidecross
06-09-2009, 03:17 PM
According to most in the field of Prehistory the Homo sapiens came from what is now East Africa 40,000 years ago.

The information comes from a wealth of new technologies such as radiocarbon and other radiometric studies and mitochondrial DNA testing.

Richard Gabriel
06-09-2009, 03:25 PM
sidecross

Now that's settled.. I guess we just have to reconcile how they came by their vast knowlege and ability!

Rich

sidecross
06-09-2009, 03:41 PM
Charles Darwin 1858’s theory of evolution woke up everybody in the world of science; before his theory most believed the age of our species began 4008 BCE.

In less than 50 years Albert Einstein had shown that even time was not absolute.

Richard Gabriel
06-09-2009, 03:53 PM
Einstein also got it wrong sometimes.. like in the relationship of particles at quantum. Alain Aspect sorted that out for him.
Most accept the Darwinian model. But there is a consensus to question the inconsistency in his work that cannot explain our huge early leap in development.

sidecross
06-09-2009, 04:04 PM
Einstein also got it wrong sometimes.. like in the relationship of particles at quantum. Alain Aspect sorted that out for him.
Most accept the Darwinian model. But there is a consensus to question the inconsistency in his work that cannot explain our huge early leap in development.

Yes, Einstein went to his grave not believing in entanglement. Even Bell’s Theorem thought it would prove Einstein correct.

Isaiah Mpski
06-10-2009, 01:33 PM
Mushrooms,one man made.;)

frank754
11-25-2010, 07:10 PM
I had almost forgotten about this site until today, Thanksgiving 2010, and remember fondly my journeys over the years through spirituality and zen, as well as many of the works of McKenna and others, as well as the 2012 books.
If there are still a few here to keep these topics alive, what are the prospects for 2012, do we keep on going until perhaps a meteor hits in another 20 years, or is there still a chance for doom & gloom in another 2 years?
I recently read that the Mayan calendar may be off by a small bit of time, but not too much. if something big were to happen. Of course, if that is the time of the big shift in our galaxy or universe, there could be some major change in the gravitation of the near universe as the "poles" shift on the galactic level.
There have been some major disasters in the world (earthquakes, volcanos, etc.) recently as well as weather shifts, does anyone feel this may come to a head or increase in the near term, or that the next 5 years or so may keep an even keel? One of the things for me, personally, being a radio amateur, is that the sunspot cycle is way behind schedule for the upcoming peak, and that we may be approaching what may be akin to what was called a "maunder minimum". The peak is supposed to be in 2012.
I will check back to see if there are any more thoughts on these things soon.