The Spiral

[Halfglass]

(Still computerless hope I'm not stepping on things too badly.) Going over my notes I realize the most powerful thing, the zenith of the whole three month experiment (the Winter of DXM), tends to fade into the backdrop of bills and budgets etc. What it was was two opposing waves--yin-yagish. Inside is all of humanity (feeling: people already dead). Everyone is trying to reach each other, through "tunnels" of green neon/plasma. The Thing shifts back and forth as I try to "get it". There is a presence (a man and a woman--happened every time--all five). It's a puzzle within a puzzle and I'm There. This is It. I can go no further. I'm telling you it was the end of the psychedelic experience. One could not hope to find anything to add to this Thing in the way of experience. At the time, I am desperite to know the outcome. "Extinction of humans? Will this "place" survive human extinction?" --No answer. Until the third time There. The woman figure implies "What do you think we would do?" *wink* This Spiral (corny I know--straight out of the opening of the old Twilight Zone shows--but maybe there is a reason that image is popular) must be enlightenment. But I have to see the "machine" that is running enlightenment. (It's the dip back into the animal brain that leaves no context, from when we had no language, and that makes this Thing feel like enlightenment--but what is that really? I want to know--I'm The Psychedelic Naturalist don't you know!) But about the "machinery" I can't say much. It's green. It gives a view of some "course" humans are going through--literally a "way"--an opening people are traversing, and from outside looking in it seems like we/they(?) are stuck there, or it will take a looong time to get through the "course". (Or I'd seen time as a block, me being outside of it.) It's a devise though. I was struck by the fact that this "spiritualness" I felt was connected to/is a technology--not of course the nuts and bolts kind, but that word is all I have. One might call it a "system". Maybe it's not the dead. Maybe it's where we are now--like The Matrix idea. There is definitely something running Behind! Be it the dead in the Overmind or the "circuitry" of "reality" I am absolutely certain there is "machinery" Behind. And that, when you think about it, is promising. I doubt death ends it. During one of these Spiral visits, the T.V. was on and every word coming out was already known to me. It was a glimps of history from a moment ahead. It had all already happened. All is a program! And just for cosmic kicks, friggin' Cheech and Chong came on (it was an ad for the movie to be played the next night or something) and it was the line, "I've never seen anybody do that much acid before!" Anyone getting something like this Lethean Spiral as I've come to call it? P.S. I know McKenna and many others have said this, (about there being technology over There) but damn! I saw it too!

[ September 05, 2003, 03:55 PM: Message edited by: Halfglass ]

[TarNutz]

Half,

K, last couple of times I've tripped (three hits blotter each time) I've gotten to that place where I saw your spiral.

The way I saw it was that the spiral stretched off towards some point ahead in time where it tighened and tightened until it hit some point I couldn't see past that I call "the Singularity". Some people have implied that this point is where technology takes the quantum leap where the curve of progress takes off straight up without any consideration for time.

What you said about whether humanity will survive or not got no answer. I believe that this is because your idea of what humanity is will probably not survive the singularity. We will be forced to evolve or die, just like every other critter that crawled out of the ocean on this rock. Technology will no doubt take a part in this process. Whether we're bound to become cyborgs or Matrix battery-slaves or whatnot is up for grabs. But trying to grasp a possible future isn't usually worth the energy: why quantumly fix the outcome if you're going to sabotage the result with doubt and desire, anyway? Divination can be more trouble than it's worth sometimes.

If I had to describe how the picture of reality would look without a dimensional/directional context of time, it'd be like a mirror of liquid mercury, rippling with the waves of probability. I have a feeling that some people with advanced science and magick had a shot at playing God. If there ever was only one true Universe, it's been shattered at some point in our past by people trying to change the course of history. The effect would be something like smashing the mirror: every individual reflection is cut off from the rest, a distortion at best of the real.

Perhaps the Singularity is merely the inevitable reconvergence of disparate realities? Part of my intuition tells me that this portion of space-time is extremely important to the fate of our species: what goes down in the next ten or twenty years might well decide our fate. The other part of it speaks with a Buddha like wisdom that everything is as it's meant to be, that despite the horror and terror, that the balance will assert itself and our race will find its purpose.

What will this mean? I dunno. Will we all collectively come to our senses and start dealing with each other rationally? I don't think so, but it'd be nice. Alien invasion, robot revolution? Perhaps, but I think the demons we've cultivated in our heads for the last three thousand years or so will probably do as well. I don't think that any aliens would try it; we're so savage and unreasonable deep down that they wouldn't get any benefit from attacking us.

The problem isn't from outside, but within. So many people have jumped on the Apocalypse bandwagon that it's rolling along quite merrily now and there's not much we can do about it. Some of those people work for the US State Department and the Pentagon; others for their adversaries. Both see profit and power in such a scenario; and by all accounts of the elite, the "Meddlesome Outsiders" of the general population are expendable.

The "technology over there" does exist. There is a "machine" out there grinding out probability and Fate: it's remarkably responsive though, and it doesn't make mistakes. You normally are not aware of why it makes the decisions it does, although your High Self is aware, and often tries to warn you with little voices and gut feelings. With a little practice you can set that "technology" running for your own ends: just be careful what you wish for and be respectful of what you run into out there.

Do you practice the Art, as in "Bippity Boppity Boo"??? Magick is psychological technology. Lots of the tools are disguised and make unattractive to the general populace, but their value is beyond price.

Don't give up, man. My vision saw us all coming together at the end; as streams join to make a river, then an estuary, then an ocean. I can't tell you everything; but I can give you some advice. Keep your balance. Stick with those you hold dear. Don't try to beat your problems from the top down, try from the bottom up, get to the root. Keep your eyes open, especially to the things you'd rather not know. Remember that where the oak breaks, the willow bends. Make the most of your time. And above all, take care of yourself, have fun, and don't do anything I wouldn't do twice!

P-Tar

[paul]

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also getting some kind of technology vision..not in the metaphorical sense ..but more literal (if you can apply that term to the "astral realms" )..some kinda bio-technology maybe.

halfglass, are these tunnels of plasma or are you in some kind of wireing, with which these 4d entities draw off human energy...a lot of people are seeing them at the moment thou they usually see them as dragons (which seems to be how they depict themselves on the lower planes)

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[Halfglass]

TarNutz: Right, you said; "...my vision saw us coming together in the end." Same here. That *wink* I got was probably the most intense moment I will ever have as a self-aware monkeyman. (But it seemed not necessarily earthbound existence that was to "make it".) I doubt I will get more, or need more. Human awareness is in this Hive over there, I got that much. And there is a purpose, though it is a purpose that has arisen. It's not a purpose that has to be. (So it's precious.) I don't know much about magick. I wish I knew some! Sometimes my "scientific" approach leaves my soul feeling beat up on some distant wintry shore next to that Ocean. But this is where I have made my inroads to psychedelics (neuroscience isn't getting anywhere near the seat of consciousness or death, even though these things aren't measurable like a good scientific subject should be, they ARE real! (the metaphysicist Goswami's spin on Descarts famous line: "I choose therefore I am."--has to due with quantum theory.)) Yeah I'm rambling but look at the subject matter eh? Maybe we'll all end up in the vangaurd of the Hive Mind, us neuronauts.... Also Tar, your description of your experience with the Spiral (the streams into rivers into ocean)--yeah thats it my friend, same thing. Humanity going through It. Paul: No, not any sense of Other in this Singularity (apt Tar!). It was people in this. I had five good looks at it and it was everyone from earth that ever lived (impression at the time). I have had what I call the Crab Faced Other come floating in and "touch" me, probing and at times placing "things" into my mind. Also there are these things, I call 'em Plasma Flowers. They seem to like to bask in one's presence which makes me think they might be grazing on my thoughts (or have I read too much don Juan?). But really, they seem oddly too interested and indifferent at the same time. I can usually draw them like flies in the 1000mg range with DXM (closed eye trip of course) but these days I find that reflecting on those mega-trips is enough! Also Paul, what have you seen technology-wise with astral projection?

[ September 06, 2003, 05:48 PM: Message edited by: Halfglass ]

[paul]

halfglass,

hard to describe..as all this stuff..but that some how these "4d entities" manipulate the eather/stuff of the astral realms , using some kind of "bio-machinary", the same way we manipulate the matter n forces of our physical world

[daniel]

My own feeling is that "2013" will be post-technological. To put it another way, there is no technology except for consciousness. As Steiner says, the universe is entirely composed of beings in different states of consciousness. Arguelles: Technology is a kind of extrusion of the DNA at a certain level. If we move to a different state of consciousness, our "technology" will become something entirely different and other.

To put it another way: Consciousness is technology. Consciousness is the only technology.

An anthropologist visited an Australian aboriginal shaman. He asked "What is the dreaming?" The shaman pointed to a plane flying in the sky. "White man dreaming," he answered.

Biotechnology, virtual technology, nanotechnology - it is all a blind alley I am afraid, leading nowhere.

For a great necessary read, check out Robert Lawlow's book on the aboriginal dreamtime: Voices of the First Day. He makes a convincing case that we are still in the dreamtime, we are just suffering temporary amnesia.

[paul]

daniel, dont take me so literally, dear boy...

we are talking trip reports,visions, teh language of symbols..dream time if you will. of course its all concousness. the question is whose conciousness

my point remains, i stongly believe there are certain "entities"(for want of a better word)trying to guilde the current awakening in a certain direction not neccesarily in humanities best interest.

as for arguelles,i have reservations that like a lot of channelled material there may be certain dubious material mixed in with a lot of truth,a classic disinformation technique, his calendar for example is nothing more than a simple inverted PENTAGRAM.

Could it be that there is more than one door opening, at this time.

the first as arguelles states, at the world trade centre in the west (the left hand path?.."ground zero"..as if i want to ground myself, make a sacred circle, at the site of such an horrific event-no thanks!)

the second, round the corner, to the north..symbolised by the empire state building. Before you make any decisions i,d recommend you make sure your head is facing north.

i,m reminded of two things;

the first the tale of a young anthropologist you paraphrase in your book,(the details arent important). taking the vine of the soul he encounters reptiles who tell him they are the true gods of the universe. Upon returning he recounts this tale to a wise old shaman, who replies, "oh, they always say that, they are nothing but the masters of outer darkness"

i,m also reminded of teh last talk you gave in new york, at that old bookshop. in response to one question, for a moment, you appeared to deny god , before rather hastily,emphaticlly retracting.

something to ponder, possibly whilst listening to live music..its good to get the body vibrating at a different frequency occassionally!

hope im not being too cryptic.

may the ONE bless you.

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"mars bar"

[ September 08, 2003, 06:23 AM: Message edited by: paul ]

[gone]

Good thread guys. I just had one of those regular reality spins trying to piece together a reasoned response and fell into a language crisis. I looked this up and felt a little better:

MY LORD GOD, I have no idea where I am going. I do not see the road ahead of me. I cannot know for certain where it will end. Nor do I really know myself, and the fact that I think that I am following your will does not mean that I am actually doing so. But I believe that the desire to please you does in fact please you. And I hope I have that desire in all that I am doing. I hope that I will never do anything apart from that desire. And I know that if I do this you will lead me by the right road though I may know nothing about it. Therefore will I trust you always though I may seem to be lost and in the shadow of death. I will not fear, for you are ever with me, and you will never leave me to face my perils alone.
-Thomas Merton, "Thoughts in Solitude"

Perhaps the spiral is the Father or the Road or an interplay of the two.

[daniel]

Paul,

Well if I did "almost" deny God (wish you remembered the q & my a) then, I don't think I will do it again. These days I am convinced enough of the presence of 'GOD' ("Galactic Ordering Directorate" as Arguelles quipped), and that we are firmly in his/her/their/its grip.

As for Arguelles, I would definitely agree there is no single truth, there are only better and worse stories. As "material reality" continues to become more psychically receptive approaching 2012, the stories we craft about ourselves and our world take on an ever-increasing importance. I like Arguelles' story, and Steiner's, and feel they can be mapped onto each other. The fascinating thing is that when I visited him in Oregon, I was mapped onto his story. MY birthdate made me his perfect "helping partner" according to his system, and I was born exactly 14 years to the day (June 15) after the discovery of Pakal Votan's tomb, the lynchpin of his entire thought. The archaeologist who opened the tomb said he and his fellows could actually feel the concentrated thoughts of the last occupants rushing past them and out into space. Arguelles says they were put there to help activate the noosphere at the necessary moment. Am I then a "dream" of the Maya? Or like Arguelles believes for himself, some type of emanation? My last name "Pinchbeck" means anything false or spurious. The Buddhist concept of "maya" is strangely close to that - the world of illusion. Is my entire life, then, some sort of Mayan gag or "time-space implant"? I think this is possibly the case. Or is Arguelles just a very good storyteller?

The crop circles are a similar amazing exercise in holding, embracing, paradoxes. There is no time and space and yet there is. Samsara is nirvana. These days I feel myself slipping deeper into the shamanic realm. It is blissful, almost, but deeply strange.

[Proteus]

Hey friends: Cool thread. Haven't seen spirals or done any time traveling i can remember. (Though when i start seeing those fractalized snakes of color melting down into a "tunnel" i know i can follow them on to something i never dreamed was imaginable. i guess "plasma tunnels" isn't a bad way of describing these portals.

Daniel remarked at the end of his last post that "these days" he felt himself slipping deeper into the shamanic realm. i'd like to hear a bit more about that, Daniel. What kinds of things have been happening to lead you to say this? i've been noticing all kinds subtle and odd-ball things starting to emerge in my own life.

Example: i noticed on another thread that Daniel mentioned the importance of mastering the techniques of conscious dreaming. Somewhere in that conversation the importance of the state between sleep and waking was mentioned--it was like a portal or something? i'm not quite sure when it began, but in the past few months i've discovered that i can, by concentrating on the vibration that i feel in (i can't believe i'm saying this) the "third eye," i can concentrate until CEVs form. i can "ride" these visuals sometimes for as long as 20 minutes--there are worlds to see and insights sometimes arrive like a flash.

This "weird" shift in my pre-sleep routine means something; i can feel that it's part of the "shamanic" path i now find meself on. i notice powerful vibrations throughout the body, but especially in the abdomen, heart, and third eye during zazen these days as well. Something's going on that is strange, strange, strange. Yet, it feels both inevitable as any natural growth process and oddly serene.

Or, i could just finally be losing my mind.

[sire_012]

paul:
as for arguelles...his calendar for example is nothing more than a simple inverted PENTAGRAM.what do you mean by this? please explain.

[Halfglass]

Proteus: What you are talking about, that moment before sleep is the door to out-of-body experiences. I'm talking from experience. I began playing around that door around 1995 (with the use of dream logs--years of 'em I'd been having great luck with lucid dreams). Then it happened december 27 1996, in the morning. Got the "vibration" (feels like electricity going through your body but without the pain) and Pop! I'm out about three feet over my bed. (It's funny how, at the time I was so amazed that I should see proof that the mind dosen't reside in the body--and still my ego wants to take over all the time and get the pettiness trip going on in my everyday interactions with people.) Daniel: Yes I'm with Sire--would like to hear more about the slipping into shamanstate you have been feeling of late. Deeply strange indeed--it seems we're all feeling it. Certainly it is apparent in these threads that all the fine seekers are in The Morph.