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10-17-2003, 12:00 AM
I’ve recently come into contact with the DPT realm. I’ve kept my dosing strategy low thus far (choosing to err on the side of caution without any proper measuring apparatus), but I like what I’ve seen.
Daniel’s straightforward DPT accounts in BOTH are what first drew me to the book. Now I’m wondering how much DPT info can be found in print. I’ve been through erowid and the lycaeum and I’ve googled it to death, but I’ve contacted very little on paper.
TIHKAL and Stafford’s Psychedelics Encyclopedia are the only other books even mentioning the stuff. I think I also caught a brief mention in Weil’s From Chocolate to Morphine. Any others?
* I realize I should beware what I ask for. The lack of print coverage is probably for the best. *
10-17-2003, 09:02 AM
many google searches have convinced me there is little around.
It was used in some studies with terminal ill cancer patients, I think, to help them approach the death state. MAPS might have some info on this. Considering my own DPT ventures, I find this an odd concept.
10-18-2003, 11:35 PM
I don’t know, Daniel. I can see how DPT might be good medicine for those awaiting death. I’ve found it to be intensely spiritual stuff. From your description in BOTH, it sounds like the bad reaction you had can be attributed to some combination of
1. an overdose (“Charity cut two big lines of the DPT on the table, and I snorted one”) and/or
2. a bad setting (“We were listening to moody techno music”).
I’ve been very cautious with the amount of shit going up my nose and with my environment. While I can’t say I’ve seen quite the level of visual data you write of, I can say that I’ve felt what I can only describe as a light radiating out from within me. Effects begin as a kundalini-like coiling sensation that travels up my spine. I can hear the stuff crackle and pop in my inner ear as it travels upward and I peak. The plateau is like being filled with a sacrament, as if the DPT deity enters me and fills me with love. Open eye visuals are little more than wavy candy and closed eyes yield intricate hypnagogic abstractions.
Perhaps DPT is best at lower dosages, just a notch below classically psychedelic skull-splitting enormity. At this level, it’s far from “a postmodern demonic MTV psychedelic”. While it may not be as interesting, it is much more beneficial. More suited to spiritual work
10-19-2003, 12:24 AM
I don't think the DPT sensations are just "kundalini-like," but actually an effect of kundalini. DPT seems to be most powerful generator of kundalini-rising experiences of any psychedelic - though it can happen on ayahuasca, LSD, and etcetera. But this also makes it potentially dangerous, as kundalini can be very unpredictable and too much voltage if your psycho-physical container is not ready for it.
I admit that I don't understand enough about kundalini. Yogic traditions view it as sacred, but Gurdjieff called it the "kundabuffer," and considered it a negative force that needed to be cleared before one could reach higher states of awareness.
If DPT has a particular relation to the kundalini, that could be one reason for its unpredictable effects.
10-19-2003, 05:03 AM
perhaps these kundalini experiences are why the Temple of the True Inner Light use DPT as their sacrament...
i dunno though, my experiences have certainly leaned more towards the direction daniel wrote about than anything i would prefer to use as a hospice type experience on my way into the next plane.
here's the paper
i would tend to think very small amounts of 5-MeO-DMT would be much preferred, giving the patient a slow indoctrination into the bardo's with a chemical that seems to offer the passport with out the biased negotiating of the travel agents involved. and despite the skull crushing signature at higher dosages, smaller doses of 5-MeO seem almost to rock the user into the space, petting their head, reassuring that 'letting go' is the best way to approach. DPT doesn't even seem to offer a gentle uplink which i would think in more fragile conditions would be preferred to the kind of bone rattling hum of the DPT.
11-28-2003, 05:10 PM
I'd hardly consider 5-MeO-DMT 'easier' than DPT. That depends on the person, as many find 5-MeO-DMT quite difficult. Are you speaking of snorting it? 5-MeO-DMT burns SO bad. That is no way to start a trip.
I find DPT much more gentle when taken by IM inkection. More smooth onset, even distribution, no drip...one knows exactly how much they got.
12-01-2003, 12:54 AM
Tachycardia and Rhabdomyolysis After Intentional Ingestion of N,N-Dipropyltryptamine
Dailey RM, Nelson LD, Scaglione JM. Drug and Poison Information Center, Cincinnati, Ohio, USA.
Background: N,N-Dipropyltryptamine (DPT) is a synthetic tryptamine with hallucinogenic properties that is available through the Internet as a research chemical. Although it may be ingested, abuse through insufflation, smoking freebase, or IM injection is more common. We report a case of DPT ingestion resulting in tachycardia and rhabdomyolysis.
Case Report: An 18-year-old female arrived to a community hospital ED 90 min after ingestion of an unknown amount of DPT. The patient had visual hallucinations, was extremely agitated, screaming, and scratching her skin to the point of bleeding. Clinical findings included tachycardia (200 bpm), mydriasis, and diaphoresis.
A commercial vial labeled DPT, with the cautionary statements of "human health hazard" and "for research purposes only" was brought in with the patient. Lorazepam (3 mg) was administered in the ED prior to admission to the ICU. Within 4 hours of presentation the patient was no longer agitated, but was confused, with a heart rate of 99 bpm.
Laboratory values obtained after admission included serum creatine kinase (greater than 8000 U/L), CK-MB (25.1 ng/mL), troponin (1.1 ng/mL), BUN (7 mg/dL), creatinine (0.9 mg/dL), AST (566 U/L), and ALT (105 U/L). Rhabdomyolysis was treated with aggressive IV crystalloid. Sixty hours after admission, the patient was discharged with no complications. The patient admitted to purchase of 1 g of DPT from the Internet, emptying a vitamin C capsule out, then filling it with an unmeasured amount of powder for experimental purposes.
Conclusion: Abuse of DPT has not been previously reported in the literature. N,N-Dipropyltryptamine and other hallucinogenic tryptamines should not be overlooked when patients present to the ED with hallucinations, agitation, and tachycardia.
12-01-2003, 05:35 AM
re: Kundalini: Wonder if many of you are aware
that there are people all over the world who have
had spontaneous rising of Kundalini, some had used
drugs, Yoga, meditation, etc. and many had Never used them. Until recently there was a voluntary referral group founded by Stanislaf and Christina Grof called The Spiritual Emergency Network where people could call and try to find help or at least someone to talk with. After an intense Kundalini experience in 1994-5, I was a "Listener" for SEN and heard from people all over the country. There is an extensive website devoted to Kundalini called (see Google) Kundalini Survival & Support.
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