writer's quandary

[daniel]

Someone has posted the entire introduction to "2012" in his blog, out of what appears to be legitimate enthusiasm. Should I sue him or thank him? I think perhaps thank him - he said it took him six hours to type it out (I caught some typos). Part of me wants to put the entire book on-line, perhaps as a Wiki for others to alter and augment... I don't think my publisher would appreciate this. However, I may ask them - a Creative Commons license has been a boost for some books by Lawrence Lessig, and others.

The intro:

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...ogID=209433011

[Caprinardo Delirio]

yeah man, thank him! pirate software/material is as equally important and essential to deconditioning and enlightening as psychedelic substances..

as long as you're not starving!?

[sidecross]

Originally Posted by daniel

Someone has posted the entire introduction to "2012" in his blog, out of what appears to be legitimate enthusiasm. Should I sue him or thank him? I think perhaps thank him - he said it took him six hours to type it out (I caught some typos). Part of me wants to put the entire book on-line, perhaps as a Wiki for others to alter and augment... I don't think my publisher would appreciate this. However, I may ask them - a Creative Commons license has been a boost for some books by Lawrence Lessig, and others.

The intro:

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...ogID=209433011

This is really a question of self-examination, courage, and the meaning of one’s work.

It is by no means an easy question.

[graffitirun]

yeahman!

let it all hang out!

as mckenna has mentioned - 'information is loose on the planet'

the free info pirated torrent thing is wonderfull- (I really enjoy what mark pesce has to say about it all)

this sort of thing is part of the intro to what (i feel) we all really want to be involved in; free flowing creative and encouraging media, art, knowledge, experience of all descriptions.

Right now one of the barriers of course is the financial thing.

On the other hand more people engage with it, build a relationship with it, interpret and reinterpret it ...visioning & re-visioning the world.

for so long things have trickled out, time now for the flow-

[graffitirun]

not to mention the guy seems excited as all hell

dont shoot the messenger(s)

[daniel]

so i got two "yeahman"s, guess i will let him be.

[ielectric]

i'm glad you decided to leave the acolyte be.

i always make "art" with the idea that it isn't art until it has audience input. the artist is only as good as the audience, etc.

a propos. i am trying to find evo. i cannot locate thru google. nor by changing the domain name suffix [evo.com, evo.org, etc.]. i heard about it when you came to woodstock in september. i emailed you a fiction about aliens. you mentioned evo keping you busy. i found it then, under construction. i cannot find it now.

i am passing my copy of your book around, having read its first three chapters aloud to my companion and newborn. now, my work partner has it. i've begun reading steiner aloud to the family. this type of activity [reading aloud] is addressed in the recent issue of the new yorker in a story titled "the bible" by marguerite duras.

i struggle to write that which will resonate as deeply as my voice. i have a very deep voice. its depth unnerves people, and i have learned to regulate its gravity, harness its aplomb. of course, vocabulary and volume, rhythm and rest all play a role in the circumscription addressed by the semiotics of eurhythmy. still, my skin color and facial features define me as black. this combination of symbols puts white people on edge. as i try to communicate with levity, i work against myself, triggering the fears of the most seasoned liberals [white, left and polite, my white, vermont-born, bread and puppet diaper baby pal calls it].

i meant to say so many other things. mainly, where is evo?

thanks for everything.

[okster]

http://www.evo.net

[ielectric]

thank you ok-ster.
i saw that site, but as the last time i checked, the bg color was black, i averted my eyes and passed on by. and here i am, advocating that we see with our hearts, not with our eyes.
lesson learned.
again.

thank you kindly!

[Karyn]

Originally Posted by daniel

Someone has posted the entire introduction to "2012" in his blog, out of what appears to be legitimate enthusiasm. Should I sue him or thank him? I think perhaps thank him - he said it took him six hours to type it out (I caught some typos). Part of me wants to put the entire book on-line, perhaps as a Wiki for others to alter and augment... I don't think my publisher would appreciate this. However, I may ask them - a Creative Commons license has been a boost for some books by Lawrence Lessig, and others.

The intro:

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...ogID=209433011

i Daniel, My girlfriend has your book and I am waiting my turn to read it. I read some of it from this blog and want to add a bit of conformation to a few of your thoughts. The coming together of spirit and physical is the Great Work. The personality is so in-line with the Higher Self -Holy Spirit that the Holy Spirit can ride the body. The small quiet voice within becomes louder then the voice of the physical body (altered ego). This happens individually. We change on the inside and it effects the outside. We are the Spirits in the physical -we are the 2nd coming of the Christ. Christ Consciousness. You can only be a Christ if you have taken a body in the physical. What we do here on this level effects all levels instead of the other way around. But you need a physical body to do the work.
You are also right concerning the governments belief in eschatology. Dan S. who works for the intelligence dept. was promoting the idea. And the thought he had was "Why not speed it up?" I know this sounds crazy but they are in touch with a group of entities that are promoting this idea. Dan S. monitors UFO groups -It is his job to leak information in exchange for information. A friend of mine who is a UFOlogist contacted me and asked me to explain to him how promoting the idea of planetary destruction was not a good idea. It's simple. We think in pictures. Every thought we have has a picture. Combine the picture with emotion like fear and you are creating that reality. It will eventually show up in the physical. There is a group of entities here that feed off of fear. I saw them. Dan recognized what I was saying to be true. His response was "What can we do to change this? They are afraid of these entities. I told him the best solution I can think of is to educate the people. Imagine educating the people instead of holding back information. We should teach quantum physics in school. Teach that like attracts like and be responsible for our thinking. A return of the Mystery School teachings. I don't think these teachings should be hidden/occult any longer. Love, Karyn

[drew hempel]

The real question is "was Abbie Hoffman CIA?" I mean he wrote "steal this book!" but then Sherman Skolnick bolstered Robert Kennedy's expose on the CIA using nonprofit foundations to control the left. Skolnick did on the ground investigative research showing how Abbie Hoffman was working out of an office paid by the CIA-controlled foundations.

Creepy stuff -- how the fringe beat-nik- counter-culture is just a little game by the Mind Controllers.

haha. Two-way mirrors in Haight-Ashbury. The whole hippie thing was a CIA construct. Do LSD with prostitutes and fill some CIA's resume.

[daniel]

ielectric -

try www.evo.net - this is a "beta" website for businesses to sign up. If you want, create a fake biz profile (unless you have a real biz who could partner with us) - use TEST alot in your answers please - then you can access the "EVO Index" through the dashboard. This is what we worked on the most - an attempt to create a ratings system that articulates what companies are and are not doing ecologically and socially. So many jump on the bandwagon, but what are their actual practices?

you sent me a few pieces, as i recall. my favorite one is more of an essay. Check out my idea for an anthology, discussed in one of the forums below. It may be that one of your works could fit for that.

drew,

my mother edited Abbie's first book, Revolution for the Hell of It. I knew him a bit and do not think he was CIA. I feel you have a bit of a paranoid strain that you might want to look at through the lense of personal psychology - it could prove an impediment to your spiritual development, full lotus or not.

karyn,

don't know if you checked out my actual book, but I discuss the alien abduction scenario at length - actually those chapters are also posted at disinfo. I think they are a great teaching in the nature of the consciousness, and finding the right relation to psychic realities.

[drew hempel]

Daniel. You can call me "paranoid" but I have a solid history of getting results in radical progressive activism. I achieved a $1.5 million stock divestment of the U of Minnesota portfolio from Total Oil for their use of slave labor in Burma and I got the U of Minnesota to join the Workers Rights Consortium so that all the slave-labor sweatshops producing athletic apparel get monitored and regulated.

Those two solid results only came after being censored, sabotaged, asssaulted, threatened, banned, etc.

In fact I'd say I'm much more realistic than the average citizen of the U.S. -- I've read almost all of Chomsky's political books and therefore I have a keen knowledge of how the U.S. empire works.

I currently work at the main "get out the vote" office for Senator Paul Wellstone -- recently "offed" in a plane "crash."

Daniel: Did your mom know "James Hoge, Jr."? This is from Sherman Skolnick:

10. During the "7" trial [from Chicago, 1968 riots], unknown to the public, Abbie Hoffman stayed from time to time at the home of James Hoge, Jr., director of the Stevenson Institute and executive director of the Chicago Sun-Times. (Field Enterprises executives, many of them in the war business, are not exactlly "left wing".) The Sun-Times, as noted, ran the copyright "compromise verdict" series by juror Kay Richards, and had editorialized for the release of the "7" on appeal bond.

The president , until recently, of the Newspaper Division of Field Enterprises, has been Bailey K. Howard, listed in the banned book "Who's Who in the C.I.A.". He has been a director of General Analine & Film Corp., interlocked at one time with Hitler's I.G. Farben Works. Howard is a major stockholder and until recently a director of Chicago's scandal-ridden Civic Center Bank (now called the Chicago Bank of Commerce). Howard's close pal, Judge and Major General Otto Kerner, Jr., is a fellow stock-holder.

The major news media have seen to it that no one disturbs the media image of the "7" as being "radical revolutionaries".

More coming. Stay tuned

[Karyn]

Originally Posted by daniel

karyn,

don't know if you checked out my actual book, but I discuss the alien abduction scenario at length - actually those chapters are also posted at disinfo. I think they are a great teaching in the nature of the consciousness, and finding the right relation to psychic realities.

Hi Daniel, I just read the chapters posted at disinfo. There are two types of greys that I know of. One I read about and one I have seen. The little ones with the big black eyes are looking to breed emotion back into their race. The tall greys are not really in a body. They can manifest one and use like a puppet. These are the ones that feed off of our fear and adverse emotions. These I have seen and had some interaction with. I was reading a post from a Dr. something and he was very rude and his advise to a young woman made no sense. I felt an unnatural anger as that is not my nature. I wrote out a couple of posts that I knew would get me moderated and had to delete them. I was so mad that my blood was boiling. That was my own description to myself. I wondered what was wrong with this man. With this thought my mind pulled it to me. I have a mind that does that. When we have our circle meetings I am the one who calls them in. What I saw was the black Void and this entity caught -my mind had captured it. I saw no Soul. This is what was influencing the Dr. Something. I saw the word ALIEN. I was so angry but even still I meant only to send back the energy it was sending out. It was-"To confuse those who are confused... "even more". I said the energy commands in my mind but instead of sending back confusion I heard and saw my Holy Spirit head towards it with a strange sound and what felt like higher anger. It blew it up. Shocking. I was surprised. This is not what I have been taught. They must have been surprise too because they showed up at our next meeting asking questions. What is our plan? I told them we don't know but they insist that we do. Laura channeled the conversation. I have only channeled my own Holy Spirit, the original Wingmakers and Nyk. That is as speaking through me. The rest has been telepathic. Love, Karyn

[Isaiah Mpski]

... reminds me of the time the Scientolgists set me up with a woman,a male homo ,a bunch of cameras and recording devices in Austin.
"In the kingdom of heaven there will be no marriage"JC

So I shut the homo out,undressed the whore and played the role right up til pentration at which point I Petered out.
The next day the OKC bombing took place.


A big bombing.

Mpski

[drew hempel]

Yeah Kenn Thomas (who knew Abbie Hoffman) tells me that sure enough the whole Chicago 8 were funded by a CIA front -- the Baldwin Foundation.

But Thomas states Abbie and the Beats were not CIA (even though much of the early LSD can be traced back to the CIA).

Anyway http://steamshovelpress.com it's cool stuff.

[daniel]

hi drew,

thanks so much for taking the time to skim my book in a bookstore. Of course, it is no surprise that one of your great learning (one book a day) and spiritual depth (full lotus enlightenment on tap) would not find it worth their money or real engagement.

looking forward to reading more and more of your lucid and carefully reasoned, coherently argued dribblings around this site. thanks for fighting the good fight against the illuminati and the CIA - never stop in your courageous ranting for truth, you do us all a great service.

hope you have a great gregorian new year's eve satori.

[drew hempel]

Well it is a pretty cover you have to admit! haha.

When does the paperback come out (with the whole Arguelles-World Institute stuff in it?) haha.

Hey Daniel -- consider the book "SAVAGES" by Joe Kane. I speed read that one as well -- it's awesome -- based on a recommendation from your 2012 forum.

So that was the KNOPF hardcover edition. Then I got the paperback for Xmas -- a VINTAGE edition with a new afterward and new edition (1996).

The Vintage was way better. Savages is an intense book. Joe Kane's first book "Running the Amazon" is also awesome.

http://huaorani.org

[Karyn]

Hi Daniel, I am reading your book and I am up to chapter 3. What impresses me so far is that trip to West Africa to take iboga. A fellow member of the B.O.T.A. has also taken that trip and reports becoming really sick. You had the reaction he was looking for. It is to show you where your issues are. That is the first step in The Great Work. To find the issues. We have to transmute the subconscious first. Before we can even get on the tree of life we have to face our issues and transmute them. It is a different method then mine but with the same results...Looking at the symbols of the tarot keys also stirs up issues. Maybe not as fast as the iboga. A lot of the students drop out of the school and then come back realizing the Key they were focusing on was the issue playing out in their lives. From what I have read so far in your book iboga seems to be a gift to humanity. Love, Karyn

[nyk]

Originally Posted by Karyn

Hi Daniel, I am reading your book and I am up to chapter 3. What impresses me so far is that trip to West Africa to take iboga. A fellow member of the B.O.T.A. has also taken that trip and reports becoming really sick. You had the reaction he was looking for. It is to show you where your issues are. That is the first step in The Great Work. To find the issues. We have to transmute the subconscious first. Before we can even get on the tree of life we have to face our issues and transmute them. It is a different method then mine but with the same results...Looking at the symbols of the tarot keys also stirs up issues. Maybe not as fast as the iboga. A lot of the students drop out of the school and then come back realizing the Key they were focusing on was the issue playing out in their lives. From what I have read so far in your book iboga seems to be a gift to humanity. Love, Karyn

what i believe we are talking about here is an extraordinary break from
the mould of human civilized consciousness. it requires extraordinary
means whether that involves plants or it involves awareness. we have
all been bred and moulded as drones. our options in this web of human
consciousness are really no options at all. we are endeavoring to break
from the norm - noncomformity really. we are effectually rebelling against
a certain kind of 'oneness'. and that is a path with practically insurmount-
able odds.

the world around us is not so out there as it seems. and birth seems
never to be a done deal.

[Karyn]

Originally Posted by nyk

what i believe we are talking about here is an extraordinary break from
the mould of human civilized consciousness. it requires extraordinary
means whether that involves plants or it involves awareness. we have
all been bred and moulded as drones. our options in this web of human
consciousness are really no options at all. we are endeavoring to break
from the norm - noncomformity really. we are effectually rebelling against
a certain kind of 'oneness'. and that is a path with practically insurmount-
able odds.

the world around us is not so out there as it seems. and birth seems
never to be a done deal.

Dear Nyk, I wish I could express myself as passionately as you.
Yes- it is just about impossible. Love, Karyn

[nyk]

you are kidding right? i am always wishing i had your repose and
precision. funny world. i mean dream.

[K.J]

Originally Posted by daniel

Someone has posted the entire introduction to "2012" in his blog, out of what appears to be legitimate enthusiasm. Should I sue him or thank him? I think perhaps thank him - he said it took him six hours to type it out (I caught some typos). Part of me wants to put the entire book on-line, perhaps as a Wiki for others to alter and augment... I don't think my publisher would appreciate this. However, I may ask them - a Creative Commons license has been a boost for some books by Lawrence Lessig, and others.

The intro:

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...ogID=209433011

I think this is a wonderful thing! A net positive in the end. I say thank him for getting the word out about your work Daniel!

[suebee]

not wanting to start another thread, and finding this one started by the author, thought id give my take on his latest book - Toward 2012. it reminds me of a book i received years ago as a perk for a subscribing to a now defunct magazine called Magical Blend. the book was called Magical Universe, a series of interviews with or essays by various writers and thinkers that had appeared in the first 50 issues of MB.

i do think daniel's passion has been stirred to good effect with his ether magazine Reality Sandwich and this book is a compendium of articles appearing on the site (some by the same authors as in MB). reading it pretty successfully calms me when its three am and collective unconscious fears swirl...

i especially like the speech by stanislav grof at the reception for the Vision 97 Award he received in 2007.