Psychiatry and it's not all ok.

[willoweyes]

I'm afraid my discourse is limited at this time to: "Hang in there, Bros and Bitches And then let go."

I think Daniel is right about the battle within. We have got to see differently.

We take a walk everyday, over the same path. One day we are on the same hillside but suddenly it is lit by the uncanny: of recognition in it of something we have never seen before. And that is Beauty, talking straight to us and not through the mouth of a Master.

My daddy was always saying to me, "It's time for the little eagle to fly," right before he threw me overboard. I'm twisted and scarred by this treatment, but as tough as the "Bog Man"; peatmoss covered Leather.

Thanks, Dad.

This is said, to suggest that we all flap a little harder.

[Isaiah Mpski]

I'm flapping to Mexico as soon as possible.
Got a lawyer finally Willow.One with enough money to get the job done.

Hope everything continues to go well with you.

John D.

[willoweyes]

The goose flaps to Mexico, not the eagle.

haha don't take this as a cheap and unworthy cut. I likegeese just as well as eagles.

if they get there on their own steam, and not on some slave's back.

___________________
"Honk if you love Geeses"

[Isaiah Mpski]

Not full time Willow.Just for a couple of weeks in the summer to fish and a couple of months in the winter when it "gits" below freezing here.

[Isaiah Mpski]

Has anyone heard anything or seen anything of Lord Hempyl.
I heard on my citizen's ban that they found some guy crushed under the bridge in a full lotus position and ....and it faded out.
And somebody on the board just paid their respects to Michael H.
My God the spirits are running toward the finish.

"To get to the top of the pyramid,Juan must climb upward and inward."


Mpski 2007

[Isaiah Mpski]

And you know,as I go onward through the psychotic storm,and view things from the top;
I only want more blood,and I want you to understand that at the top synchronicity ends because my word becomes the law.

Thanks for freeing the Dog fellows because I know you can eat him alive if thou so desireth.
Mexico is a wonderful country.

Mpski Sometimes,a God always

[Isaiah Mpski]

Folks,
If you have any sense at all you will be making plans to head to my farm in Oklahoma-exit 262,I-40.
Sidecross is right.We are being ruled by a ego-maniacal wanna-be monarch trying to fulfill dad's failures and who seems to have suicidal intentions for this country.Did you ever watch him play first base.I've seen high school kids play better ball then GB senior.
I know most of you are not into the intellectual games of the different war machines but while Bush is pouring billions into Iraq and Afganistan every week,Russia and China have been putting their money into modernizing their military.
China's navy is at least as powerful as ours-if not more so.Russia has resumed flights of nuclear equipted bombers all across the world and Bush announces that we going to put missles into eastern Europe.What a dope.
If you haven't figured out what is happening you better make some contingency plans soon.
I'm not saying we are on the verge of a "war" but a few more years of the wear and tear on our military and our economy it won't take long,for a silly mistake to start one,and Bush's BS about we'd better stop them over there or we'll be fighting them here sounds as silly as it was when the same thing was said about Viet Nam.

[Isaiah Mpski]

Willow and SueBee I am happy to announce that we have a new member to the farm-Michael-and he claims to be able to do a better job with posting pictures of the farm etc.
The garden is doing wonderful but some cock-sucker loosened the oil drain plug on our 62 hp tractor and I'm afraid he is frozen up.

I think every so often that we have to define ourselves.
I am a relatively wealthy physician with Messianic intentions and we need some helpers.I follow Quanah Parker.

I have chosen McIntosh County,Oklahoma for several reasons to develop and spread.
1. It is mostly lake which is now controlled by the Corp of Engineers-thousands of acres of deltaland from the North Canadian River and tremendous forests.
2. The mineral rights-oil and gas-that underlie the land the Government is trying to hold on too-are worth millions.
3. We own appx 80 acres and a mile of Lakefront which includes both sides of Interstate 40 appraised at 2.6 M.There is alot that can be done here but will be hard good work and you can expect to find conditions similar to the best of communes in the late 60's and 70's.The only difference will be that any income will be distributed amongst the farm and political workers.

We also plan,in the near future,buy some land in Mexico although I think it will only get cheaper in the next few years as immigration laws will cut off alot of dollars soon.
We also love the Rockies and you can't beat Northern New Mexico.

We need garden workers,mechanics,fisherpeople,hunters,explorers,p art-time photographers,lawyers and investor advisor and those who are sober .

[willoweyes]

Isaiah, I was getting worried--glad you are back.

If we didn't have 100 acres to tend, just a few miles south of you, we would join up. Several years ago, I was watching a documentary about an earnest black preacher who had brought his congregation from Harlem to the Red River Valley. "The Lord told me that we would be safe here in Oklahoma," he said to the interviewer. That man's heartfelt words have stuck with me!

Some child (his name was "Bad Badgett"--) once took the oil plug off of our '64 Massey-Ferguson--but AW got it running again. When ordering a part for it, the tractor dealership owner told him he was "niggardly" for trying to keep such an old tractor running.

AW can fix just about anything, can handle blacksmith work wiring and plumbing. Built the house we are living in, every step, with just one old cowboy to help him. He's also a great lawyer, and as hard-working a man as you will find.

In the interest of complete disclosure he's a bit passive-aggressive and controlling, but all in all, I've had more luck than I deserve.

[Isaiah Mpski]

Willow,what do you mean by worry?
I hope you believe that us surviving radical hippies of the 60's and 70's who were horribly abused(in my case for you who are new to this thread-Indaklon and insulin coma therapy and 200 ect's for my crucifixion ala A BEAUTIFUL MIND and Juan Flew Over The Cucco's Nest)- need to be compensated.
I need some money to put in the stock market and build me a house.I think all men should build themselves a house.Not to close to the water and on rock.

A laywer huh.Ask him a question for me.
If the Statute of Limitations is tolled in Texas because of disability does it toll as long as the disability exists?

Started on a trip to Mexico last week.Got as far as Dallas.
I really get paranoid sometimes.

[Isaiah Mpski]

Stopped and picked up some nice minerals and fossils-in Allen I think-om my way back to Oklahoma.What did your ole man say in response to my question?
To me the answer should be obvious but getting someone to do the work in Houton could cost probably 2-3 k per gay.
Yahaha-you can't help but look at MM and not get horny can you SB you Scientolgy B.

[willoweyes]

My dear Isaiah, the attorney will try to answer your question--only he isn't on your wavelength so was CONFUSED BY YOUR QUESTION. (whoops capslock). Rephrase, please?

One thing is for sure. Texas is the meanest state in the union when it comes to medical malpractice-product liability--consumer protection--sticking it to the criminal insurance companies.

If you bring suit in Texas, and the jury awards you 10% more than the insurance company offered you--that is considered a defeat and you must PAY THE INSURANCE COMPANY'S TEAM OF EXPENSIVE ATTORNEYS. Consider the implications, and you will see why many Texas attorneys have moved to NYC, or become schoolteachers.

If your old granny dies thru nursing home neglect, with a straight face the defense/insurance hacks will claim to have SAVED YOU MONEY and DONE YOU A FAVOR.

There is no such thing as pain and suffering damages anymore in Texas.

Many people call up our office, hoping we will right some wrong--having heard we were suckers for a hard-luck tale--and they are mighty disappointed to learn what "tort reform" means to the person who lost something irreplaceable, thru the "Bush you" attitude of big money boys.

[Isaiah Mpski]

I love your response W and totally agree with you.
A true win in the Ct Systems of Texas might really better realate to the amount to the amount of press time you get.

Very seriously now,find the picture I posted of JFK,less than two or three minute of the time he parted company with his brains and then tell him-show him if you have too-that Daddy was General Council for TXU and you possibly think he couldn't have gotten someone to "put me in line".

Does anybody know where J. Ruby was the day of the shooting?

Fuck the SOB in Houston and Laredo,NO.Expose him for what he did-the GD'ed Judas.Take everything he has and then set him afire the moneyloving cocksuker.


Come on now CM,we're dealing with some real airtime here.Dr Winston Martin didn't end up in Galveston Bay on Dec 24th,1076 by accident.God damned him from the beginning.
And SB,I need it,please.

[suebee]

you need what?

and yes the doctored pics of mm are lovely and maybe my hiatus off men will end with a woman.

[suebee]

you need what?

and what's a "scientology b"?

and yes the "doctored" pics of mm are lovely and maybe my hiatus off men will end with a woman.

[Isaiah Mpski]

You really know just the right words to turn CM on don't you,you big tease.

[Isaiah Mpski]

And Willow,I knew somebody would fall for my humminbird story-but you-I never dreamed it would be you my dear.
We have tons of pecans this year also,more than I've ever seen.

And that SueBee,she really knows how to torment somebody.I bet CM won't be able to sleep for three days.

[Isaiah Mpski]

...it comes a point in time when all free men ...

Ok.If all youse guys have or have not figured it out,it is time to make plans to head this way,or that.

Changing gears Sidey.
I get up with the chickens too.
These people who are being bought out now have to invest wisely.
As a senior citizen on a fixed income and benefit program from the mafia what are the most important things to seekout in retirement with a 150k and SS?
Food,shelter,utilities,bullets?

[Isaiah Mpski]

Again the question is where do you put....

Recently I posted that Hillary was running out of money and in denial.
The post was answered by one of the attorneys who deposed me a little over a week ago.In fact he ask me a question,which (as SB will tell you) is a real sdrew-up because he KNOWS who my attorney is.

He obviously realized that post was bad for him and his side and he somehow removed it from this forum.SB,Willow,do you think Fj would do things like that for money?

The post was something about Hillary be finished unless Wright pished him off a cliff or he jumped.
Well.As of today the opposing counsel jumped off a cliff.

Can anyone find those posts.I suppose I could suponea the posts.Somehow there is money to be made here FJ.The reason I knew it was the opposing counsel was that he teased me about the only site I could remember posting on-MSN,MD Doctors on line.Schizophrenia.

[Isaiah Mpski]

I believe it is best to communicate in the fewest terms possible and listen to all the synchronicities happening around you.

[Isaiah Mpski]

Can't you hear them?
You can make them happen if you know how to externally catelyticly(sp) phenomemnize.

[Isaiah Mpski]

Well I fked up too today.Must be the two hundred ect's.
Tried to write my ex a note of apology and put couldn't where I should have put wouldn't..
Danna Dodson Beaty of Waco.

[JCCamp007]

Listen for those of you who follow Dr Mpski' post I must tell you,he is no more.
He paid last month's bills,left me in charge of most of the running of His farm and took off.

There are some things you should know about Mpski.
He did go through all the ECT's etc because he was being "taught" to be a good MKULTRA machine.MK stands for Milam King.Not jr but Sr.

He never mentioned this on this board ,as far as I am aware,but Mpski was truly a warrior for the good ole USA curteosy(sp) A product of your Intelligene Service by which and for which he is periodicly paid poorly for over 35 yrs
He helped foil a plot to smuggle pieces of an atomic device along the transcanadian railroad in March of 75 by doing away with a Viet Nam deserter who came from China to Canada with rather impunity.

As far as I know-outside of his handlers in Seatle at the time-Perhaps Portland- I am the only one to know of what he and Betsy Bush-his partner did to the turncoat in Hope B.C. and a few others on down the line.

I am going to continue to run the farm as Mpski instructed me.
Visitors are welcome as long as they are willing to camp out.
You,if you decide to stay-and it would be perfect for you and a RV SB-must contribute as well as share in the building of a safehouse to survive the possible cataclysmic disaster that is supposed to come in 2012.
JC

[suebee]

i miss mpski.
did you see jesse ventura's ridiculous show this week? all about 2012 and the sun. and the coming problemas.

here is a personal transformation i have to share. remember ted olson? he and his wife were low dogs imo in the late 80's and he represented shrub in the bush v gore case. anyway i have slightly different thoughts after seeing rachel maddow tues:

Last spring, a man considered by many to be the leading conservative lawyer of his generation, present at the founding of federalist society. He defended Ronald Reagan during the Iran Contra Affair, perennial Supreme Court nominee mention. George W. Bush‘s first solicitor general, Ted Olson.

He called the lead attorney he had squared off against in Bush versus Gore before the Supreme Court. And he asked his courtroom opponent, David Boies, if he would like to work together with him to try to overturn California‘s anti-gay marriage Proposition 8 in federal court.

Again, this would not be Ted Olson versus David Boies again, but rather, Ted Olson and David Boies together against the opponents of gay marriage. If you‘re wondering why the conservative case for gay marriage is the cover story on “Newsweek” right now, it‘s because of our next guests.

Joining us from California where they are in the midst of their federal court battle over California‘s anti-gay marriage constitutional amendment, Proposition 8, are David Boies and Ted Olson. Gentlemen, thank you so much for your time tonight.

TED OLSON, ATTORNEY ARGUING TO OVERTURN PROPOSITION 8: Thank you.

DAVID BOIES, ATTORNEY ARGUING TO OVERTURN PROPOSITION 8: you, Rachel.

MADDOW: Mr. Olson, let me start with you. I have read the legal arguments you‘ve made in favor of same sex marriage. I read your opening statement from the trial this week. But what moved you personally to take this on, to wade into this fight?

OLSON: Well, I think it‘s the right fight to battle. It‘s the right time to fight this battle. David and I agree that it isn‘t a liberal or conservative battle. It‘s an issue about American rights, American decency, American values, liberty and equal treatment of individuals who are American citizens just like the rest of us. We think it‘s time that we recognize their right to equal treatment.

MADDOW: Mr. Boies, I know there was some initial controversy when you and Mr. Olson announced you would be taking on this case together. In part because this is - you‘re stepping into the stream of a fight that‘s already being waged before you, and through different means.

Why pursue this as a federal issue? Everybody‘s guess is that this is aimed straight at a Supreme Court challenge on this issue.

BOIES: One of the reasons that it has to be a federal issue is that the federal Constitution guarantees every citizen the right to equal protection of the laws. Gay and lesbian couples are being denied that protection.

Now, it‘s true you can proceed state by state and nobody thinks that‘s not a good idea. It‘s fine to proceed state by state. But as we‘ve seen in a number of cases, the state by state battle has not succeeded.

And in those cases like California, and like my home state of New York, it‘s important that the federal Constitution will guarantee that equal protection be vindicated.

MADDOW: In the introduction to talking to you two, I mentioned that gay people seeking the right of marriage was initially seen particularly within the gay community as a pretty conservative course for the movement.

Mr. Olson I know you wrote in “Newsweek” this week that the fact that individuals who happen to be gay want to share in this vital social institution, marriage, is evidence that conservative ideals enjoy widespread acceptance.

I want to ask you though about the conservative legal argument that a federal ruling for gay marriage would be seen as activist judging as Mr. Boies said. So far the record of the state is when they put these things up to a popular vote, it‘s something like zero and 31. What‘s the argument for securing this right through the courts when it‘s been so roundly rejected at the ballot box?

OLSON: Well, the federal courts, the Supreme Court of the United States has repeatedly recognized what you said, that marriage is a fundamental right of Americans in this country. It is the building block of our community.

People who wish to enter into a loving permanent relationship and wish to bond themselves together and share their aspirations and future is a conservative value. I don‘t think that - I don‘t want to claim that as a conservative value necessarily, because it‘s a liberal value, too.

It‘s an American value. But the idea that people want to live together and be a part of a community and help build things together for themselves and for their family is certainly a conservative value. But it‘s also a liberal and an American value.

MADDOW: When I hear you talk about that human - the human side of this, and the - what people go through when they are deprived of civil rights. I know that on - I‘m hearing both an argument there that‘s compelling in a rhetorical sense.

But I‘m also hearing legal strategy. Mr. Boies, I know have you been involved in a lot of different civil rights issues over the course of your career. Legally, you‘ve talked about the need to humanize the victims of civil rights violations.

I know in the fight this week, you guys have asked witnesses what have sometimes been seen as personal questions about their life experiences as gay people. Is that part of the legal strategy?

BOIES: Absolutely, because there are three basic points that we want to make. One is that marriage is a fundamental right, and nobody can really disagree with that.

The second is that gay and lesbian couples are seriously harmed when they‘re deprived of that right. It harms them. It harms the children that they‘re raising, and that they want to raise.

And one of the ways of expressing that in the court is to bring these people in and let people hear what their stories are. And I don‘t think anybody in the courtroom, who was there yesterday when these plaintiffs testified. could go away unmoved by their stories.

And the third point is that allowing them to be married doesn‘t hurt anybody. It doesn‘t hurt heterosexuals. I mean, I can‘t imagine heterosexuals in love deciding, “We‘re not to get married because our gay neighbor can get married.”

There simply isn‘t any harm to anyone in allowing these people to marry the people that they love. And the way that you make that real is by bringing the people into court so everybody can see what they want, how they are, that they‘re just like you and me. And all they want are the same things that you and I take for granted, the right to go out and marry the person that we love.

MADDOW: In making, Mr. Olson, what you call the conservative case for gay marriage in “Newsweek,” and I hear you saying this is American values. These aren‘t conservative or liberal values.”

But you wrote you had been overwhelmed by expressions of gratitude and goodwill from persons in all walks of life, including from many conservatives and libertarians whose names might surprise.

I, of course, would love to hear some of those names if you‘re at liberty to share them. But even if you‘re not, can I ask you, is there more private acceptance of homosexuality among conservatives than people are willing to admit to publicly?

OLSON: Yes, I believe there is more private acceptance of homosexuality, especially among young people. This country is changing, and it‘s changing rapidly. The acceptance of people that aren‘t exactly like us is growing and growing in America.

Also, one of the things that David and I hope to accomplish with this trial, and we hope that television will be a part of this trial at some point during this case, is to look into the hearts and souls of the people that we‘re representing.

The story that David was mentioning that was told yesterday by the individuals we represent, is very compelling. If you listen to these individuals and you hear our arguments, you are going to agree with us.

And if we have the opportunity to the spread that message throughout the country as this case gives us an opportunity to do, more and more people will accept the decency and equality that our Constitution requires.

So I think there is increasing acceptance of the fact that there are people that are different in our society, but they‘re otherwise just like us, and that will increase as people are educated if they will just listen.

MADDOW: Attorneys David Boies and Ted Olson, part of the reason that people are listening is because you two are a very odd couple standing there together. We really appreciate you both coming on with us tonight. Thank you for your time. Good luck.

BOIES: Thank you.

OLSON: Thank you.

MADDOW: David Boies and Ted Olson joining us from California where they are in the midst of their federal court fight over Proposition 8 in California. We will be right back.

[JCCamp007]

Yes I saw the one about MKULTRA and it' exactly what Mpski told me.
Use pain to create superhuman strength and the ability to focus.
If I hear from him,I'll tell him you miss his posts.
He'll probably be back in tome for gardening season and you can bet your last dollar,Mpski is on a hunt and do away with mission..
In re your essay,I imagine if you could get Tammy Fay Baker,Farrah Fawcett,and Audbrey Hepburn to read it they might have more insight into "unnatural" acts.
A place for everything,
and everything in it's place.

The next step to liberation from problems caused by faulty libidinal establishment(if there is such) is to recognise any such actions raised by such assumptions as unnatural and a path to suffering and destruction unless you do what Mpski says.
You will enjoy gardening in the Creek Nation.

[JCCamp007]

Well I know most of you aren't going to believe this but Mpski was in jail the last two days.
Before I tell you what happened to him I want to tell you what i saw at Wal-Mart today.
Generally about one o'clock Wal-Mart-super Wal-Mart- puts their daily roasted chickens on sell for half price.Which was nice of them.
Today as I walked in the store there were several people there at the deli waiting for the broasted chicken when the manager walked up and said.
"No more half price broasted chickens.If you can't pay full price for them well put them in the garbage."
I was appaled.Now,the people there waiting for blessing of the day really got dumped on.
These weren't people who could afford a full priced chicken.
One women said that that was the only thing she could afford and as I looked at the group of them,they looked mostly like shellshocked elderly people who are probably trying to live on much less than a thousand a month.

One of my blood pressure medicines has quadruptled in price beginning January 1.

Those poor people looked like empty shells of people who have worked almost everyday of their lives to be treated like trash by the system.there is nothing they can do about it except suffer and die.Suffer and die.

Anyway Mpski went to the US Attorney's office two weeks ago and ask for an investigation into the changing of his Mother's medical records.
Apparently the request was turned down because he had no proof that records had been changed other than the fact that he had seen the original records.
Mpski looked into the background of the Attorney who denied an investigation.All they had to do to get proof of his claims was to suponea the electronic records or interview a few people.Anyway it turned out the Attorney who looked at his complaint was on the board of directors and a Major stock holder in a bank that the doctors who Mpski complained about had put their millions.
He was appaled and when he went back Monday and ask to see the lady's boss he was almost immediately grabbed,handcuffed,and charged with public intox because he had had a wine cooler and a sandwich 4 or 5 hrs earlier.
No breathalizer.Nothing but,
"We think we smell alcohol and IF you even look like you're going to protest we're going to shock your ass and charge you with resisting."

Anyway if you even showed Mpski an alcholic beverage he would run away.
Nothing could have been descriptive of what Mpski saw.Our jails are turning into money making machines and just in the surrounding counties they are tripling the size of them because the state pays by headcount per diem and by fines-extortion-because if he had pled not guilty they could have held him until June and the next jury docket.

The judge-who I have to admit was softspoken and kind- fined the 20 or so people who came before him that day fairly heavily-but gave them a payment plan with a stern warning if they did not meet it warrants would be immediately issued,they would be taken to jail again and more money added to their bill.
Mpski saw people brutalized and dehumanized worse than at an animal shelter.
He was one of them and he is hurt badly.

[willoweyes]

oh, Mpski, I am sorry. What a bad state we are in. The badness rises, like that slouching beast, its gaze blank and pitiless as the sun.*

Yes, they will throw the chickens in the garbage, and then pour bleach on them. I have seen that happen.

Bad, Bad Bad.

Keep hope. Live "as if." Die brave. That's all we can do.

two pieces of toast with those eggs, please.

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity. Surely so
revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in the sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

[suebee]

oh poor mpski. he really must remember to not drink before he goes visiting state attorneys.

indeed cali's jail headcount is all about money too. the slouching beast is named corporatism.

[JCCamp007]

One wine cooler and a tuna fish sandwich five hrs before requesting to see the US Attorney is hardly drunk.
He went in two weeks ago and they told him not to come back.
They were laying for him and I guarantee as soon as he pulled into the parking lot the cops were called.Five carloads.
He ask for a breathalyser or blood test but they refused.
I don't think he'll go back again.In fact I can guarantee he won't go back.
He says God punished Washington DC for abusing him.And they did abuse him severely.
Did make him give up all his vices though,cept you and Willow of course.

[JCCamp007]

Is anyone out there or does any anyone know of a honest organization who will help Mpski?
You would only be helping yourself by doing so.
He has been threatened in person and over the telephone with murder or loss of his freedom.