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snow · 11-30-2006, 04:07 AM

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Isaiah Mpski · 12-02-2006, 02:44 PM

you are so niave about John Wilder and crew.
If you could possibly imagine his influence,not just in Texas but the Southern Hemisphere as a whole you might be able to change some things.
It is unbelievable the amount of infrastrucure that TXU has contributed to Latin America.
And they are not necessarily only goin gto develop coal burnrts.
They are quite agreeable to develop nuclear for you.

dreamath · 05-29-2008, 06:43 PM

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willoweyes · 05-21-2009, 08:56 AM

we all know that bush senior is known as "poppY"

Coincidence? i think not.

they call the poppy the Afghani problem. maybe it is the american problem?

Isaiah Mpski · 05-21-2009, 10:43 AM

You are very niave or very much out of touch with the statistics of drug abuse Willow,because just like it prefixed the fall of the Third Reich,if we don't treat it like we do the poppy problem(methadone was deemed a worthy substitute) alot of people are going to suffer and die first.

willoweyes · 05-21-2009, 12:34 PM

uh, was i saying something like it wasn't a problem?

I'm saying we call it an Afghani problem--the Afghan people don't have a problem, we do.

25 % of Black men in jail--nonono.

all drugs legal and controlled--universal health care.

US a better place.

why not?

Isaiah Mpski · 05-21-2009, 04:24 PM

I'm talking,of course about amphetamine like substances-like crank and crack.
Oh,I totally agree with you about legalization.It should be started with Hemp however.

suebee · 05-22-2009, 01:23 PM

i heard all our (usa! usa!) opium/heroin comes from asia and the afghans supply europe.

Isaiah Mpski · 05-23-2009, 04:44 AM

That's pretty old hat SB.
The Sinola Drug Cartel controls probably 29% of drug trafficing,which in toto amounts to several of Billions of dollars.
They sell pure meth by the barrel load there.That's right,by the barrel,and pure opium by the elbow.hehe.
I never had enough to buy a whole barrel back then but I had a friend who bought a couple of kilos of the shit and sold it to the guys building a new Nuclear Power Plant somewhere in South Texas.
Well wouldn't you want them on their toes too?
You see,chemically,Methamphetamine and the like stimulate or accenuate or copy the effects of pure Adrenaline.
It's a synchronous world we live in.

Praise be to God.

Please Google--- McIntosh County Oklahoma Sheriff accused of withholding monies and other evidence from DA's office

.

This was headline in Muskogee Daily Phoenix today,May 232323232,2009.

Anyone have any news from Mr R.A. Wilson?

Old pond,new frog.Old frog,new Pond.SPLASH!i'm in love again..

Buzz · 07-03-2009, 12:54 PM

Do you mean Robert Anton Wilson?

He has passed from the physical plane. The later day affects of Polio finally killed him. He died at home a few years back. All the books he had written and no money. He smoked marijuana, prescribed by his doctor, to combat his illness.

Shortly before his death he released a DVD called "Maybe Logic". It's pretty good.

Isaiah Mpski · 07-04-2009, 06:38 AM

Thanks Buzz.

I have really noticed alot of synchronicities later and you may have just explained it.
I bet he's laughing and having a good ole time now.

Wonderful writer and thinker.

He will be missed.

Thanks again Buzz.

suebee · 07-15-2009, 06:37 AM

"Discovery News" July 15, 2009 -- The rising rate of diabetes, Parkinson's disease, and Alzheimer's may be linked to nitrites and related compounds -- found in hot dogs, bacon, potatoes and fertilizers, among other common products.

Nitrites are already known to cause cancer. A new study suggests that low doses of these chemicals can also have serious effects on the brain, that certain age-related diseases are caused by more than just aging, and that there might be simple things people can do to help prevent them.

The link is still in the hypothesis stage, experts say, and there's unlikely to be just one explanation for a host of complicated diseases. Still, lead author Suzanne de la Monte is already making efforts to avoid nitrates herself.

"I think it's really important for people to take steps into their own hands," said Suzanne de la Monte, a neuropathologist at Rhode Island Hospital and Brown University's Medical School in Providence. "You need to be really careful to avoid this stuff as much as possible."

Sodium nitrite is used to preserve and color fish, meat, and other processed foods, especially hot dogs and bacon. Nitrates are often found in fertilizers and end up on produce, particularly root vegetables such as potatoes and beets.

In the acidic conditions of the stomach or when cooked over high heat, nitrates and nitrates can be converted to nitrosamines, which are potent cancer-causing chemicals. Nitrosamines are also formed as byproducts of certain industries, such as rubber and latex.

De la Monte had worked with a nitrosmaine-like drug called streptozotocin (STZ), which scientists use in animal experiments to cause Alzheimer's disease as well as diabetes mellitus and a liver disease called NASH. All three of these illnesses involve resistance to insulin, a hormone that helps break down sugar.

She wondered if nitrosamines in the environment might be doing the same thing to people that STZ was doing to lab animals.

She and colleagues started by collecting data about the use of nitrites and nitrates in fertilizers, fast food, meat and grains over the last few decades. Then, they looked at a national health database dating back to 1965 to find out how many people were dying from which diseases and at what ages, and how those numbers had changed.

Analyses showed that exposure to nitrates has indeed gone up. Sales at a fast food franchise and at a major meat processor have jumped by a factor of eight since 1970. And the use of nitrogen-containing fertilizer doubled between 1960 and 1980, right before outbreaks of insulin-resistant epidemics, including diabetes and Alzheimer's, picked up.

The new study, which appeared in the Journal of Alzheimer's Disease, also found that the probability of dying from Alzheimer's is far higher today than it was in 1965 for every age group. That rise in death risk was steeper with increasing age, suggesting that a longer period of exposure to the implicated chemicals made the problem worse.

Isaiah Mpski · 07-15-2009, 06:39 PM

Chelate,chelate,chelate.

Mpski 2009

Isaiah Mpski · 07-16-2009, 07:31 AM

SB,read in the King James Bible John 14:26,15:26 and 16:13.He is my lawyer.
...and the Statutes will be tolled forever for THE KING CAN DO NO WRONG.

suebee · 02-22-2010, 08:55 AM

Today's Picks 2/22/10

Study: Marijuana use by seniors rises as boomers age.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35517361/?GT1=43001

JCCamp007 · 02-22-2010, 01:46 PM

Not trying to change the subject,but another McIntosh County Oklahoma sheriff -Joe Hogan-was busted again last week.That's three in a row.All under the tenure of Greg Stidham.
He fired a couple of his thugs and they narced him out.The feds came in and did a drug test on him and found-I hear-7 illegal drugs in his pee test.
I would bet a nickel against a dollar that he was tipped off by the local DA-Greg Stidham-who had a hand in Joe being the appointed sheriff a few months back which allowed him to "clean" his house before they could search it.Couldn't clean out his bladder though.
Don't get me wrong Greg.A man has to stick up for his friends.It's just that you're such a sorry narcisstic sack of shit your day is coming soon too and maybe they'll put you in a cell together.
Don't ever forget Greg-those walls have ears. I'm counting the days until you're behind some with bars.You've screwed too many people,let off all your friends who got in trouble and you stabbed the wrong man.

One of the really sad things about Joe was that he was an OSBI agent for several years and then after that he was head of security at one of America's biggest bomb making factories in the USA-The McAlester Army depot-that is where they make most of the bombs for the wars we are in including the infamous bunker buster.They run three shifts down there 24/7.

suebee · 02-22-2010, 05:27 PM

and now for something completely different

http://www.slate.com/id/2245188/?GT1=38001

suebee · 03-15-2010, 06:20 PM

and this is from march 2009:
http://www.alternet.org/drugs/132120...g_the_country/

.....Last month, the U.S. government’s own Bureau of International Narcotics and Law Enforcement Affairs released its policy-shaping “2009 International Narcotics Strategy Report.” As the bureau had to admit, “U.S.-purchased or stolen firearms account for an estimated 95% of Mexico’s drug-related killings.”

Nowhere in the report was it emphasized, however, that there are at least 6,600 licensed gun dealers in the four states adjacent to the Mexico border. Or that legal loopholes grant thousands of other unlicensed gun "enthusiasts" and collectors to sell their wares, without inspection or oversight, at weekend gun shows across the country.....

but we have the NRA and the DRUG WAR to keep us safe.

suebee · 03-26-2010, 01:29 PM

the ballot initiative to "regulate control and tax" marijuana and make it legal to possess, cultivate, transport for personal use (over age 21) qualified to be on the general ballot in the california november election.

it is reported that 60% of the yearly $25 billion the bloody cartels suck up is from pot and that the usa is the world's largest market, with 26 million declared 'users'.

JCCamp007 · 03-26-2010, 05:05 PM

SB.How would we keep somebody from stealing your crop?
Are your neighbors cool?

You really really should think RV.
RV SB,RV.
Not motorcycle.
RV.

suebee · 07-11-2010, 06:56 AM

wow
http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/im...0902224742.gif

btw, hemp (in all its glorious forms) and wine grapes do very well in cali dry farmed. why do we have a budget crisis?

11-30-2006, 04:07 AM	#1
snow Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 128	Fight the real enemy http://www.workingforchange.com/acti...m?itemid=21689

12-02-2006, 02:44 PM	#2
Isaiah Mpski Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Eufaula,Oklahoma Posts: 3,563	reality you are so niave about John Wilder and crew. If you could possibly imagine his influence,not just in Texas but the Southern Hemisphere as a whole you might be able to change some things. It is unbelievable the amount of infrastrucure that TXU has contributed to Latin America. And they are not necessarily only goin gto develop coal burnrts. They are quite agreeable to develop nuclear for you.

05-29-2008, 06:43 PM	#3
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05-21-2009, 08:56 AM	#4
willoweyes Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,537	poppy=bush senior we all know that bush senior is known as "poppY" Coincidence? i think not. they call the poppy the Afghani problem. maybe it is the american problem?

05-21-2009, 10:43 AM	#5
Isaiah Mpski Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Eufaula,Oklahoma Posts: 3,563	reality You are very niave or very much out of touch with the statistics of drug abuse Willow,because just like it prefixed the fall of the Third Reich,if we don't treat it like we do the poppy problem(methadone was deemed a worthy substitute) alot of people are going to suffer and die first.

05-21-2009, 12:34 PM	#6
willoweyes Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,537	wha? uh, was i saying something like it wasn't a problem? I'm saying we call it an Afghani problem--the Afghan people don't have a problem, we do. 25 % of Black men in jail--nonono. all drugs legal and controlled--universal health care. US a better place. why not?

05-21-2009, 04:24 PM	#7
Isaiah Mpski Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Eufaula,Oklahoma Posts: 3,563	I'm talking,of course about amphetamine like substances-like crank and crack. Oh,I totally agree with you about legalization.It should be started with Hemp however.

05-22-2009, 01:23 PM	#8
suebee Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,361	i heard all our (usa! usa!) opium/heroin comes from asia and the afghans supply europe.

05-23-2009, 04:44 AM	#9
Isaiah Mpski Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Eufaula,Oklahoma Posts: 3,563	semi reality That's pretty old hat SB. The Sinola Drug Cartel controls probably 29% of drug trafficing,which in toto amounts to several of Billions of dollars. They sell pure meth by the barrel load there.That's right,by the barrel,and pure opium by the elbow.hehe. I never had enough to buy a whole barrel back then but I had a friend who bought a couple of kilos of the shit and sold it to the guys building a new Nuclear Power Plant somewhere in South Texas. Well wouldn't you want them on their toes too? You see,chemically,Methamphetamine and the like stimulate or accenuate or copy the effects of pure Adrenaline. It's a synchronous world we live in. Praise be to God. Please Google--- McIntosh County Oklahoma Sheriff accused of withholding monies and other evidence from DA's office. This was headline in Muskogee Daily Phoenix today,May 232323232,2009. Anyone have any news from Mr R.A. Wilson? Old pond,new frog.Old frog,new Pond.SPLASH!i'm in love again.. Last edited by Isaiah Mpski; 05-23-2009 at 04:52 AM.

07-03-2009, 12:54 PM	#10
Buzz Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 486	RA Wilson Do you mean Robert Anton Wilson? He has passed from the physical plane. The later day affects of Polio finally killed him. He died at home a few years back. All the books he had written and no money. He smoked marijuana, prescribed by his doctor, to combat his illness. Shortly before his death he released a DVD called "Maybe Logic". It's pretty good. __________________ "Disbelief in magic can force a poor soul into believing in government and business." Tom Robbins

07-04-2009, 06:38 AM	#11
Isaiah Mpski Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Eufaula,Oklahoma Posts: 3,563	reality Thanks Buzz. I have really noticed alot of synchronicities later and you may have just explained it. I bet he's laughing and having a good ole time now. Wonderful writer and thinker. He will be missed. Thanks again Buzz.

07-15-2009, 06:37 AM	#12
suebee Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,361	what does the FDA do? "Discovery News" July 15, 2009 -- The rising rate of diabetes, Parkinson's disease, and Alzheimer's may be linked to nitrites and related compounds -- found in hot dogs, bacon, potatoes and fertilizers, among other common products. Nitrites are already known to cause cancer. A new study suggests that low doses of these chemicals can also have serious effects on the brain, that certain age-related diseases are caused by more than just aging, and that there might be simple things people can do to help prevent them. The link is still in the hypothesis stage, experts say, and there's unlikely to be just one explanation for a host of complicated diseases. Still, lead author Suzanne de la Monte is already making efforts to avoid nitrates herself. "I think it's really important for people to take steps into their own hands," said Suzanne de la Monte, a neuropathologist at Rhode Island Hospital and Brown University's Medical School in Providence. "You need to be really careful to avoid this stuff as much as possible." Sodium nitrite is used to preserve and color fish, meat, and other processed foods, especially hot dogs and bacon. Nitrates are often found in fertilizers and end up on produce, particularly root vegetables such as potatoes and beets. In the acidic conditions of the stomach or when cooked over high heat, nitrates and nitrates can be converted to nitrosamines, which are potent cancer-causing chemicals. Nitrosamines are also formed as byproducts of certain industries, such as rubber and latex. De la Monte had worked with a nitrosmaine-like drug called streptozotocin (STZ), which scientists use in animal experiments to cause Alzheimer's disease as well as diabetes mellitus and a liver disease called NASH. All three of these illnesses involve resistance to insulin, a hormone that helps break down sugar. She wondered if nitrosamines in the environment might be doing the same thing to people that STZ was doing to lab animals. She and colleagues started by collecting data about the use of nitrites and nitrates in fertilizers, fast food, meat and grains over the last few decades. Then, they looked at a national health database dating back to 1965 to find out how many people were dying from which diseases and at what ages, and how those numbers had changed. Analyses showed that exposure to nitrates has indeed gone up. Sales at a fast food franchise and at a major meat processor have jumped by a factor of eight since 1970. And the use of nitrogen-containing fertilizer doubled between 1960 and 1980, right before outbreaks of insulin-resistant epidemics, including diabetes and Alzheimer's, picked up. The new study, which appeared in the Journal of Alzheimer's Disease, also found that the probability of dying from Alzheimer's is far higher today than it was in 1965 for every age group. That rise in death risk was steeper with increasing age, suggesting that a longer period of exposure to the implicated chemicals made the problem worse.

07-15-2009, 06:39 PM	#13
Isaiah Mpski Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Eufaula,Oklahoma Posts: 3,563	Chelate,chelate,chelate. Mpski 2009

07-16-2009, 07:31 AM	#14
Isaiah Mpski Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Eufaula,Oklahoma Posts: 3,563	SB,read in the King James Bible John 14:26,15:26 and 16:13.He is my lawyer. ...and the Statutes will be tolled forever for THE KING CAN DO NO WRONG.

02-22-2010, 08:55 AM	#15
suebee Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,361	i wonder how many people are still in jail for using Today's Picks 2/22/10 Study: Marijuana use by seniors rises as boomers age. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35517361/?GT1=43001

02-22-2010, 01:46 PM	#16
JCCamp007 Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Between the I and the t,Checotah,Oklahoma Posts: 373	Not trying to change the subject,but another McIntosh County Oklahoma sheriff -Joe Hogan-was busted again last week.That's three in a row.All under the tenure of Greg Stidham. He fired a couple of his thugs and they narced him out.The feds came in and did a drug test on him and found-I hear-7 illegal drugs in his pee test. I would bet a nickel against a dollar that he was tipped off by the local DA-Greg Stidham-who had a hand in Joe being the appointed sheriff a few months back which allowed him to "clean" his house before they could search it.Couldn't clean out his bladder though. Don't get me wrong Greg.A man has to stick up for his friends.It's just that you're such a sorry narcisstic sack of shit your day is coming soon too and maybe they'll put you in a cell together. Don't ever forget Greg-those walls have ears. I'm counting the days until you're behind some with bars.You've screwed too many people,let off all your friends who got in trouble and you stabbed the wrong man. One of the really sad things about Joe was that he was an OSBI agent for several years and then after that he was head of security at one of America's biggest bomb making factories in the USA-The McAlester Army depot-that is where they make most of the bombs for the wars we are in including the infamous bunker buster.They run three shifts down there 24/7. __________________ Be here now John Paul. Last edited by JCCamp007; 02-22-2010 at 01:55 PM.

02-22-2010, 05:27 PM	#17
suebee Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,361	wow and now for something completely different http://www.slate.com/id/2245188/?GT1=38001

03-15-2010, 06:20 PM	#18
suebee Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,361	the dead now include americanos and this is from march 2009: http://www.alternet.org/drugs/132120...g_the_country/ .....Last month, the U.S. government’s own Bureau of International Narcotics and Law Enforcement Affairs released its policy-shaping “2009 International Narcotics Strategy Report.” As the bureau had to admit, “U.S.-purchased or stolen firearms account for an estimated 95% of Mexico’s drug-related killings.” Nowhere in the report was it emphasized, however, that there are at least 6,600 licensed gun dealers in the four states adjacent to the Mexico border. Or that legal loopholes grant thousands of other unlicensed gun "enthusiasts" and collectors to sell their wares, without inspection or oversight, at weekend gun shows across the country..... but we have the NRA and the DRUG WAR to keep us safe. Last edited by suebee; 03-15-2010 at 06:30 PM. Reason: the article had typos!

03-26-2010, 01:29 PM	#19
suebee Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,361	the ballot initiative to "regulate control and tax" marijuana and make it legal to possess, cultivate, transport for personal use (over age 21) qualified to be on the general ballot in the california november election. it is reported that 60% of the yearly $25 billion the bloody cartels suck up is from pot and that the usa is the world's largest market, with 26 million declared 'users'.

03-26-2010, 05:05 PM	#20
JCCamp007 Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Between the I and the t,Checotah,Oklahoma Posts: 373	SB.How would we keep somebody from stealing your crop? Are your neighbors cool? You really really should think RV. RV SB,RV. Not motorcycle. RV. __________________ Be here now John Paul.

07-11-2010, 06:56 AM	#21
suebee Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,361	wow http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/im...0902224742.gif btw, hemp (in all its glorious forms) and wine grapes do very well in cali dry farmed. why do we have a budget crisis?

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