Orgone Accumulators

[Dna]

Has anyone got any information on these, or anecdotal tales.

What are people's opinions of Willhelm Reich's work. Do we think he was a misguided individual. Perhaps he really was onto something. I am asking because I have been doing a little research into him on the Internet recently. I suppose the best proof would be to build a cloud buster, or something and see if the thing works. Anybody done or witnessed similar?

Dna.

[Dna]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=mmCOBZSBVY8
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8L3tKddZF...elated&search=

[Dna]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=LFgqkDCoAag

[craazyman]

His concept of orgone energy seems very analagous to the Eastern mystical concepts of chi, prana, etc. But most scientists believe the sky has a bluish glow because of the nitrogen, not the orgone content. It seems to me that Reich was very much on to something that will probably take another few hundred years to fully get nailed down scientifically. Otherwise, he apparently had a good moral compass.

--Reich developed therapeutic methods to help people give up their emotional armor; but he also approached the problem from the social and political side of things, working to pass laws against child abuse, to give women equal rights and pay, and to make divorce and contraceptives more freely available. For this, he was severely attacked by the Nazis . . . --

[Dna]

Thanks Craazyman.

Modern science is incomplete. I also have a feeling that Reich was onto something as well. The only way for me to get a handle on this will be to build an accumulator or a cloud buster, which I plan to do in Spring.

I believe that his papers will be released in 2007. What does this mean? I must find out more.

Dna.

[Dna]

P.S. There are more cracks in the edifice of current science, particularly in relation to Zero-point energy. Check out this video and associated links. Like I said, the only way to do this is to roll up your sleves and try and build some of these technologies yourself. Running a car on water (read zero-point energy) is one that is pretty well documented (keyword - 'joe cell').

I think if you ran around on a waterpowered car for a few months, you'd know that a new world is possible - wouldn't you?

Dna.

[craazyman]

Yes the water-powered car, the Tesla technologies, zero-point energy generators. I don't know what to think about these. I tried to so some research on this stuff a while back, but quickly ran into the barrier of my own ignorance of physics & higher mathematics, specifically Maxwell's equations and different ways of reading them (i.e. Thom Bearden), forget about Shroedinger waves and Dirac zero-point equations.

What's a dumb liberal arts guy to do? (I was actually a mathematics minor in college but that was a while back and I studied useless stuff like complex variable analysis & heavy drinking).

Hell, I don't know. I read about the supression of these technologies, but at the same time there's so much money for someone who commericalizes them (even GE or a Westinghouse or a BP or an Exxon or Toyota or Hyundai) that I kind of come down on the side of things that if they're really real, then some corporation would muscle one to market. I'm not a skeptic, but I'll believe it when I see it.

[sire_012]

i watched that first video and couldn't for the life of me figure out what the hell they were doing let alone what the hell they were trying to claim to be doing.

there are 2 chapters in this orgone story. 1) willhelm reich and his investigations into orgone and the orgasm. this is well worth looking into, both burroughs and wilson have written extensively on it, chris hyatt wrote a great book utilizing some the techniques "undoing yourself" and there is much ore to extrapolate.

chapter 2) was iniitiated by this fellow named Don Croft (educateyourself.org). this guy is internet lunatic extraordinaire. if you could dine on high end gourmet chitlins of modem connected madness and 21st century alienation psychosis you would be eating deep fried Don Craft brains. and they are delicious. my favorite quote about him is from his wife, who travels the southwest in a tin-foil covered RV with Don fighting Draconian invasions with orgonite materials. she says of Don (i paraphrase slightly), "Don is so far out even the aliens think he's crazy!". ahem. yes ma'am, yes they do.

anyhoo he started this movement of using orgonite (reframing reich's ply-layers of organic and alloy into a matrix of organic and alloy... kind of.. actually it's bondo and copper in most cases) into functional ornaments that can be placed around the house, cell towers, water basins, tvs, etc as a way to kind of act as an air freshener for one's chi. borrowing heavily from william irwin thompson's paranoias about electromagnetic fields, Don Croft and his internet army of mouth breathers feel that the way to fight back against the Draconians assault on the human bioenergy field as perpetrated by most of our technological advances of the last 200 years is to place these pieces of orgonite strategically around house and country.

it should be noted that bondo and other resin type materials used to create these "succor punches" and "holy hand grenades" as they are called are well known to have strong neurotoxic chemicals that emit as gasses while they are curing. it may very well be that these people are simply turd-toying nut balls only driving themselves further down the rabbit hole by huffing neurotoxic gas as a means to fight the lizard people.

but with all that said i must admit that my experiments - which have been fairly extensive- with orgonite has been fairly successful. but i'm a bit batty and more than a little susceptible to suggestion.

ultimately, what the orgonite maniacs (and the true orgone scientists) and indeed the radionics fanatics as well as magicians, dowsers, etc should stand as testament to more than anything is that perhaps the collective objectification of results is less important - and a much greater distraction - than the accumulation of tools which prove to be subjectively effective for one's pursuit of very personal goals.

[snow]

i built a cloud buster. my friend mary helped me. she picked out chunky high altitude crystals, gunked in epoxy and metal shavings, and stuck the crystals in 1 1/2 inch copper stuck it in a pail buried it to power it up . i built it to help our farm.

[snow]

ive been working almost 3 years to save it. i also wrote to representatives and worked within my family to heal all the old wounds and illnessess. we can finally talk to each other without suspicion. and believe it or not, they are starting to think organic. if we can turn this farm around, i will get on with the rest of life.

[snow]

most the time i am even afraid to say what i am doing, dont wish my left hand to speak to my right hand. to turn the tide. but i would appreciate any postive thought waves for my brother and his family today. a little farm is a big thing.

[craazyman]

brilliant, Sire, brilliant

[Dna]

Snow, did it work. The cloud buster, I mean.

Sire, if you got any 'ore' in your researchings into Reich, Burrows and Wilson then maybe you could point me in the direction of the lode bearing documents.

Peace.
Dna.

[Dna]

Yes. There do seem to be a lot of kooks out there.

Here is a website that I like, and it seems like a good entreé to the subject.

http://www.orgonelab.org/sobuildaclb.htm

Dna.

[snow]

yeah it worked. dont ask me why.

i did read the link you posted, read that couple years ago, it kept me from building the thing. the don croft people told me, (and anyone who asks), that the writer of that article is on the dark side. they would tell you that the article is a BAD place to start.

so my friend and i just went about and did it, and even though it's loony tunes, (working with those materails is toxic, the metals, the resin) but it worked. my friend had the experience of having a crystal sort of astrally bifurcate while building a hhg.

it's out of my system now, i dont think about croft, or chemtrails, or busters, or reich, or orgone, anymore. that was the biggest shift for me. i agree with sire, that it is really about tools for very personal goals.

[RIbot]

Dr. Fred Bell uses Orgone deposited gold on some of his pyramids. He was a physicist at NASA and one of the last people to work with Nazi era rocket scientist Wernher von Braun. A very interesting site www.Pyradyne.com.

[Dna]

Hi RIbot,

I'm afraid I got motion sickness looking at that site.

Dna.

[nyk]

Originally Posted by RIbot

Dr. Fred Bell uses Orgone deposited gold on some of his pyramids. He was a physicist at NASA and one of the last people to work with Nazi era rocket scientist Wernher von Braun. A very interesting site www.Pyradyne.com.

It could get interesting in airports when these nukalert keychains start
chirping away in security.

[drew hempel]

This is the best quote: it may very well be that these people are simply turd-toying nut balls only driving themselves further down the rabbit hole by huffing neurotoxic gas as a means to fight the lizard people.

Yeah -- I mean James DeMeo's article "How to build a cloud buster" doesn't tell you jack shit how to build anything! All it says is aluminum and copper are bad and that you use pipes.

THAT'S IT -- out of pages and pages about people going into trances and leaving the cloudbusters going to create all sorts of problems, etc. Anecdote after anecdote of "I built the cloudbuster" and then....

Holy shit! "How to" means -- references of operational problems with no information how to....

What has America come to? haha.

James DeMeo just wants people to buy into his little Reich cult (well you need to do all the orgone training and somewhere how, somewhere you'll find out)...

Yeah whatever Reich thought that masturbation would save Earth -- what a joke -- it justs turns men into sex-addicts with bad health and dead brains.

[itsok]

Originally Posted by drew hempel

Yeah whatever Reich thought that masturbation would save Earth -- what a joke -- it justs turns men into sex-addicts with bad health and dead brains.

It's not so simple. Unless you want it to be. I guess you do. So, go ahead and write Reich off. What's your game? King of the hill? Let Reich stand where he stands which for us all is on the surface of a round planet. It's not a pyramid and there's not a peak.

Reich addressed several important aspects of institutionalized gender norms which have affected the lives of individuals in significant ways. So, Drew, compare your sex life, your relationships, etc. with, say, a woman in a society with the kind of unnatural stress that can result from the societal norms characterized by some of the unhealthy practices Reich describes. It's not so easy to totally write all his observations off.

It's a bit ignorant on your part to claim that Reich claimed masterbation would save the earth. As far as what turns men into "sex-addicts with bad health and dead brains----surely it's not just a simple case of masterbation.

It's O.K.

[sire_012]

yeah drew, i think you've way over-simplified Reich's investigations and discoveries. albeit, i share your suspicions of these new wave of orgone enthusiasts, reich's work with body armoring and the orgasm have still not reached the level of attention and respect they deserve.

in the most simplest of terms the world would be a much better place if people were not so manipulated into hating and misusing their sex drives, however, that is only the beginning of what Reich's work with the orgasm has seemed to have proven. that bioenergetic pulse derived at the moment of climax can be used for a great deal of useful and healthy ends.

masturbating might not save the world, but it could certainly lighten the load a bit so to speak. if honestly considered i think the negative fall out from global sexual repression/distortion would be downright shattering to comprehend.

[Isaiah Mpski]

I've got a big red streak running from the corpus callosum of Ptere to the land of the multicoloerd Richard Nixon and other fruits and nuts?
Do you think it could be dangerous Drew?
Maybe we should give them something to help them sleep.
I am a big believer of recycling as long as it is not my own.

[drew hempel]

What's my game? REAL SUBLIMATION OF SEX ENERGY. Reich was cool for his time -- but he's really no different than Freud or even Foucault or Marcuse.

King of the Hill -- is what? THE COSMIC MOTHER!! Get it right! That's why the All Seeing Eye Capstone is not on top of the pyramid.

I recommend people practice THE SMALL UNIVERSE aka THE MICROCOSMIC ORBIT - Mantak Chia's very first book is a good start. Then read "Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality" -- that teaches you the real deal for sexual energy.

For practice you can order the Level ONE sitting meditation C.D. from http://springforestqigong.com -- $15 includes shipping.

Hold on -- I'll get you an online detailed description .. of what beats Reich hands down!! haha.

http://www.kheper.net/topics/Taoism/..._of_light.html

I assure you the main problem I have with this pratice is that men who think they are straight get an erection around me.

Why? Because modern secular society is based on pornography -- T and A -- and the typical male is no different than the Skinnerian dog.

Now -- obviously most men think there is no alternative -- and that's why everyone goes bald and gets fat and gray hair etc. -- too much beating off.

In fact the FULL-LOTUS is SEX WITH THE COSMIC MOTHER (as Formless Awareness).

The pressure on the thighs converts the hormones into ELECTROMAGNETIC ENERGY (chi) which then converts to light for spirit travel.

Reich was half way there -- no more than Jung.

But unless the sex energy is turned into electromagnetic energy and then cycled BACK INTO THE BODY then it won't build up.

The secret is how to control and redirect the desire -- back into the body -- then the man can have multiple orgasms and make the body stronger and even HEAL OTHER PEOPLE.

The source IS THE COSMIC MOTHER.

No technology -- no "accumulators" -- just you and the nake awareness that you exist within.