Secret UFO Propulsion

[drew hempel]

OK -- I had a very close encounter with a big, black, flat, equilateral triangle, preceded by spheres of light, each a different color, doing inexplicable manuevers on the horizon. Summer, 1997.

Anyway there's definitely some secret military propulsion technology -- ionic vortex propulsion. There's not a lot on it in the public realm.

I'm confident that Tom Bearden has figured this stuff out and his knowledge is fascinating: http://www.cheniere.org/megstatus.htm

Not that any of this will save the world or anything -- it's just one more means to keep us all mesmerized and of course a further excuse of Mother Nature to give us the smack down.

THE SECRET OF THESE SYSTEMS IS ASYMMETRICAL RESONANCE WITH THE NONLOCAL CONSCIOUSNESS FIELD -- or zero-point field.

http://www.cheniere.org/correspondence/091206.htm

[drew hempel]

Walter Bowart -- the mind control expert -- gives the low down on ElectroMagnetic Weapons and the psychocivilized society set up by the CIA, etc.

http://whale.to/b/bowart4.html

And a more extensive site on "Radiation Rape" and "Mind Zapping"

http://www.angelfire.com/or/mctrl/index.html

[craazyman]

Not sure whether to put Bearden on QuackWatch or not.

the case for:

1. bizaare end of the world predictions
2. where's the VC money?
3. How could Plank, Einstein, de Broglie, Heisenberg, Bohr, Shrodinger, Oppenheimer, Bohm, Glashow, Hawking, Witten, etc. etc. etc. all have been SO WRONG!

the case against:

1. Honorable mention by Nick Cook
2. The 2002 patent
3. Restraint--give him just a little more time


But seriously, sooner or later the "free energy from the vacuum" crowd has to put some points on the board.

[ielectric]

what about nikola tesla's discovery at menlo park and j.p. morgan's response?

[Karyn]

This is from Judge Thomas Troward- Activity which is wholly self-sustained:

Motion
Now at this stage, Spirit's conception of itself is that of Activity, and consequently the material correspondence is Motion, as distinguished from the simple diffused ether, which is the correspondence of mere awareness of Being. But what sort of motion? Is the material movement evolved at this stage bound to take any particular form? A little consideration will show us that it is. At this initial stage — the first awakening, so to say, of Spirit into activity — its consciousness can only be that of activity absolute; that is, not as related to any other mode of activity, because as yet there is none, but only as related to an all-embracing Being; so that the only possible conception of Activity at this stage is that of Self-sustained activity, not depending on any preceding mode of activity, because there is none.

The law of reciprocity therefore demands a similar self-sustained motion in the material correspondence, and mathematical considerations show that the only sort of motion which can sustain a self-supporting body moving in vacuo [i.e. in a vacuum — Ed.] is a rotary motion bringing the body itself into a spherical form. Now this is exactly what we find at both extremes of the material world. At the big end, the spheres of the planets rotating on their axes and revolving round the sun; and at the little end, the spheres of the atoms consisting of particles which, modern science tells us, in like manner rotate around a common centre at distances which are astronomical as compared with their own mass.

Thus the two ultimate units of physical manifestation, the atom and the planet, both follow the same law of self-sustained motion which we have found that, on a priori [i.e. relating to or derived by reasoning from self-evident propositions — Ed.] grounds, they ought [to follow — Ed.] in order to express the primary activity of Spirit. And we may note in passing that this rotary, or absolute, motion is the combination of the only two possible relative modes of motion, namely motion from a point and motion to it — that is to say, centrifugal and centripetal motion; so that in rotary, or absolute, motion we find that both the polarities of motion are included, thus repeating on the purely mechanical side the primordial principle of the Unity including the Duality in itself.

But the Spirit wants something more than mechanical motion, something more alive than the preliminary Rota [i.e. a fixed order of rotation — Ed.], and so the first step toward individualised consciousness meets us in plant life. Then, on the principle that each successive stage affords the platform for a further outlook, plant life is followed by animal life, and this by the Human order, in which the liberty of selecting its own conditions is immensely extended. In this way the Spirit's expression of itself has now reached the point where its polar complementary, or Reciprocal, manifests as Intellectual Man — thus constituting the Fourth great stage of Spirit's Self-recognition.
http://www.ardue.org.uk/library/book10/chap02.html

[Dna]

At the big end, the spheres of the planets rotating on their axes and revolving round the sun; and at the little end, the spheres of the atoms consisting of particles which, modern science tells us, in like manner rotate around a common centre at distances which are astronomical as compared with their own mass.

At the little end atoms look nothing like spheres. They are waves. Because of this electron orbital paths look more like clumps of baloons - representing probability densities. I learned this in high school.

You can't compare the two levels.

Dna.

[Dna]

... Bearden sounds interesting. Would like to learn more about him.

[Karyn]

Originally Posted by Dna

At the little end atoms look nothing like spheres. They are waves. Because of this electron orbital paths look more like clumps of baloons - representing probability densities. I learned this in high school.

You can't compare the two levels.

Dna.

It is also spiraling. And evolving because even though it seems to go back to itself it is starting over at a higher level.... Does this work?

[ielectric]

Thus the two ultimate units of physical manifestation, the atom and the planet, both follow the same law of self-sustained motion which we have found that, on a priori [i.e. relating to or derived by reasoning from self-evident propositions — Ed.] grounds, they ought [to follow — Ed.] in order to express the primary activity of Spirit. And we may note in passing that this rotary, or absolute, motion is the combination of the only two possible relative modes of motion, namely motion from a point and motion to it — that is to say, centrifugal and centripetal motion; so that in rotary, or absolute, motion we find that both the polarities of motion are included, thus repeating on the purely mechanical side the primordial principle of the Unity including the Duality in itself.

but rotation is not self-sustaining. centrifugal and centripetal motion depend on the gravitational pull of other spheres/entities. thus, it is interdependent motion, not independent. the only self-sustaining principle is "the primordial principle of the Unity" - as your author calls it.

or maybe i missed something...?

i, electric.

[ielectric]

Originally Posted by Dna

At the little end atoms look nothing like spheres. They are waves. Because of this electron orbital paths look more like clumps of baloons - representing probability densities. I learned this in high school.

what high school doesn't teach you is that all representations are only representations. symbols, in other words, symbolize what they are not, just as what is symbolized is not the symbol used to represent it (although it may, in its turn, represent something else). words, for example, are merely symbols of symbols.

[ielectric]

Originally Posted by Dna

You can't compare the two levels.

levels, by definition, are designed for the making of comparisons. the difficulty we encounter as humans is the intuition that tells us "you can't miss what you can't measure" as opposed to the gravity of base materialism, a dead-serious pseudo-science which holds us in its pernicious grip, despite its being no more than a lower level we accept by saying "no, thank you. not yet," to the timeless infinity. of course, we will each say yes, in our turn, and the symbols (yes, no, etc.) will disappear.

thus, propulsion is only another representation. i mean, we know there's nowhere to be but here. i mean, the place isn't going to change us, no matter how or how fast we get there. i mean, this kid asked me if i know where this road goes, and i said, i been here 47 years and it hasn't gone anywhere yet.

of course, i'm just paraphrasing a range of source material, conversations overheard, writing on the walls, and so forth.

not to be impractical or anything.

ignorant electricutie

[drew hempel]

If you read the journal Apeiron it's very well documented that Einstein had returned to the concept of the Ether..... still he was too indoctrinated on logarithmics.

Tesla just was a visionary and he did the math in his head. Only later did other scientists create algebra that could be applied to Tesla's work -- but thats only the work that survived.

Tesla, himself, insisted on ONLY using sine-waves while logarithmic-based math uses square waves, etc.

The same with John Keely and Victor Schauberger who only used natural numbers.

[drew hempel]

I bought a book today by science writer Joel Davis. I just googled him and got a mind-blowing interview on Air Force anti-matter propulsion!! This plasma hydrogen stuff exists -- the interview was 1988. Just google his name and "mirror matter" this busted machine dont'letknowlinkshappen!

[drew hempel]

Here's the link: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs.cmu.edu/user/mnr/st/std012

[drew hempel]

More "radiation" explosion tests.... will we find the holy grail? haha

http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.d...NEWS/701080321