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Old 05-27-2006, 12:17 AM   #1
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I rarely go to the movies because I prefer books. I've read "the Da Vinci Code Decoded" but more importantly I had already read "The Templar Revelation" before the Dan Brown's book came out.

Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince, authors of "The Templar Revelation" are cited by Dan Brown as one of his main sources -- his characters refer to the book by name.

But what most people don't know is that Picknett and Prince have published an essay stating that Dan Brown's book and the follow-up movie promote fascism.

It should be obvious -- a historical fiction novel based on information that some take as truth which argues that eugenics is good because it promotes supernatural leadership by an elite.

That's what is scary about the Da Vinci Code -- if the masses see no problem with a book and movie promoting fascism then the propaganda works.

As I've already stated Picknett and Prince also authored "The Stargate Conspiracy" which pinpoints a CIA-Freemason agenda to promote techno-spirituality, the idea that an elite group of people are privy to supernatural engineering that will ultimate transform the whole planet (even though the means to do so is genocide and apocalypse).

Their website detailed Jose Arguelles' close ties with James Hurtak who is a main figure discussed in their book but then the website was attacked by "Virginia" -- the CIA.

Just a few days ago http://www.paranoiamagazine.com
posted an article on the sacred geometry featured in the Da Vinci Code -- it's an interview with Henry Lincoln, co-author of "Holy Blood, Holy Grail."

Lincoln's been attacked because of his show-business background but he's basically stating well the whole supernatural bloodline thing is obviously a forgery but there is real sacred geometry in France.

Lincoln has focused on five mountains which he believes were formed as a pentagram to indicate the golden ratio of Freemasonic ideology -- the golden ratio is also essential to engineering and science.

Professor Arnold Pacey in his classic book "The Maze of Ingenuity" (reissued MIT Press, 1993) details how the Golden Ratio was at the heart of Gothic Cathedral construction.

The ratio 5:8 is the Golden Ratio but 5:8 is also the minor sixth interval in music theory and the complimentary opposite of the ratio 4:5 -- the major third music interval.

4:5 is considered the true basis of Humanism because it extended the Pythagorean Tetrad of Gregorian music so that equal-tempered ratios could be used (i.e. polyphonic music and logarithmic-based art for realism and inverse square dynamics for engineering).

The ratio 5:4 closely approximates the cube root of three created, through natural resonance, three dimensional spacetime from holographic sacred geometry.

In otherwords Number as dimensional thought resonants as three dimensions through the ratio 4:5 -- the major third that creates the Triad Chord in western music polyphony.

It's important to remember that in music theory ratios are complimentary opposites that go beyond Aristotelian "exclusion of the middle logic." For example 8:9 and 9:8 are both the major tone intervals in music theory and C to G is 2:3, the major fifth, while G to C is 3:4, the major fourth -- same "notes" but different ratios because it's an inversion.

And so the Freemasonic Da Vinci Golden Ratio -- in fraction form -- is just an asymmetrical resonance of 1 plus 1 divided by 1 for infinity. Aka "The All Seeing Eye" that is nonlocal information beyond spacetime. Mario Livio mentions that the Golden Ratio has been found to govern black holes but John Wheeler states that for black holes there can be no real number continuum because spacetime arises from "Bit." Or as Wheeler coined "It from Bit."

It's exactly this paradox between logic "It from Bit" based on only natural number resonance in conflict with PMI -- the Principle of Mathematical Induction -- based on "proof by contradiction" that creates irrational numbers (i.e. the square root of two that is 9:8 cubed or the Devil's Interval or the Golden Ratio irrational number based on the sacred geometry resonance of 5:8 as 4:5).

Math professor Luigi Borzacchini, with whom I've corresponded by snail mail, writes on his website that math is based on "deep disharmony." This irrational foundation of math, and hence science as a whole, is what I've called "the rotten root" that drives technology as tantra.

2:3 and 3:4 are male and female principles which resonate infinitely until it's resolved that they arise from 1 as the I-thought -- the source of the Freemasonic Golden Ratio.

Western science has tried to "contain the infinite" through logarithmic math based on induction or proof by contradiction. It's never positively proven by logic that the hypotenuse of the Pythagorean triangle equals the symbol for the square root of two -- a precise symbol for infinity. This is even the subject of a Philosophy Journal article by two professors in 1999 -- "Did the Greeks Discover the Irrational?" And they detail why the logic is wrong.

Math says who cares -- it works but the question is for whom does it work? The 1 billion people living in hyper-city slums with no sanitation?

In Vedic philosophy, as Sri Ramana Maharshi taught, eternal liberation is finally achieved "when the knot is cut" which literally means when the heart has stopped for 15 minutes.

Even the followers of Ramana Maharshi run away from this conclusion that is very overt in Ramana Maharshi's writings and he is considered the true lineage of Advaita Vedanta.

In otherwords the traditional Brahmins become "Jnanas" -- the highest form of Vedic Yoga -- by repeating I-I-I-I over and over in the finest thoughts of their minds until it resonates back to their hearts, stops their hearts, while retaining consciousness and restarts them again.

Only then is "eternal liberation" achieved to break all the cycles of karma. Only a Jnana can recognized another Jnana. But, of course, these people are technically THE UNDEAD. In fact Wade Davis has detailed the same process through herbs for zombies in Haiti, stemming from West African practices.

And so western science is literally based on this logical reality of the UnDead which enables our technology to spread genocide -- to feed off mass sacrifice -- as the metal and fire becomes dominant over earth and water.

The apocalypse returns consciousness to it's origin -- which is timeless -- and not based on left-brain logic and right-hand technology.

I think it's this reality of ecological collapse and the huge mass denial it involves that has generated a return to the origins of western science in the Golden Ratio and its sacred geometry principles of Freemasonry.

I call this "the Alchemy of De-Nile" and of course Camille Paglia's rendering of Nefertiti's structural resonance through western civilization (her book "Sexual Personae") -- the ulimate femme fatale -- the UnDead Queen of Materialist Desire -- nails it quite well.

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Old 06-01-2006, 05:22 AM   #2
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There is a lot here, Drew. A lot to take in. I love your posts, but feel a bit that I am jumping on a fast moving train when reading them, and not prepared for some of your knowledges.

There is much in this post i wish to ask you about, or know more about, but just this, for now:

About the heart stopping for 15 minutes, this is new to me. I've learned that the "i who thinks of i" starts very early, with the first heartbeat, and is the seat of the "i" conciousness in this body, so it makes sense, what you write. There are jhana practitioners who can maintain absorbtion for very long periods of time, maybe this is what they are aiming for. Why jhana practioners keep going, no matter what wonders they encounter. True concentration is to be able to not get distracted by the double bodies that take form, etc, when in the concentration states.

I wonder though, if or what you think about the song of the arhats, who upon realization, almost always have a song or poem, something along the lines of "it is done, it is finished, what is to be done has been done, the holy task is finished, there will be no more taking rebirth" etc.

Do you think this ability, this talent, even, for reaching the concentration states is available when the mysterious compulsion to complete karmic tasks is finished? Is the completion of this bodily karma one of fate/karma?

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Old 06-01-2006, 06:52 AM   #3
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also, Drew, what do you think of the Delogs? legendary, of the past? Who remain in a dead state for days weeks no heartbeat and travel throughout the realms seeing the conditions of beings?

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Old 06-01-2006, 08:35 AM   #4
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i broke my nose during iran contra, that's when i learned never to trust a bee-ew-es-h. EVER. when he ran in 2000 i ran didnt walk i ran to vote for gore not nader cuz it was the most metaphoric election we will ever have; earth in balance against the oil fascists. gore was a hugely compromised prince, but the golden rock in burma teaches a lesson about balance; how delicate, how even a hair of goodness over a vat of evil can save the world from flames for a long long time. unfortunately idealistic people voted for nadar and sent us down to where we are now: guantanamo is fodder for the masses desensitization and massacre our daily grub.

the cia freemason agenda to promote techno reality; keeps moneylenders in control of our lives.

" And nevertheless, your majesty, it is the homeless wanderer who is the lord and master of the ascetic life, and to be a homeless wanderer has many, has numerous, has infinite virtues. To measure the virtues of being a homeless wanderer is not at all possible. It is as with a jewel that fulfils all one's wishes; one cannot measure its value in terms of money, and say that it is worth so much. Or it is as with the waves in the great ocean, which one cannot measure and say that there are so many. All that the homeless wanderer still has to do, he succeeds in doing rapidly and without taking a long time over it. And why is that so? Because the homeless wanderer, your majesty, is content with little, easily pleased, secluded from the world, not addicted to society, energetic, independent, solitary, perfect in his conduct, austere in his practice, skilled in all that concerns purification and spiritual progress. He is like your javelin, your majesty. Because that is smooth, even, well polished, straight and shining dean, therefore, when well thrown, it will fly exactly as you want it to. In the same way, whatever the homeless wanderer still has to do, he succeeds in doing it all rapidly and without taking a long time over it"

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Old 06-02-2006, 08:45 AM   #5
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Hi Snow -- thanks for the comments and questions. What Ramana Maharshi teaches is that once "eternal liberation" is achieved then the Jnana can do whatever he/she wants because "they" are not really doing anything! It's all just a display of past karmic energy running itself out. Some of these Jnanas choose to do nothing else except teach the advaita philosophy while others become despots in the eyes of us unliberated folks. Supposedly this last "illusion" is not possible since advaita practitioners are traditionally brahmins bound to strict protocol but by Ramana's teaching anyone can practice advaita and it's the best practice for our times.

But more importantly the biography of Ramana Maharshi and the biographer of his protege -- Sri Poonjaji -- this biography David Godman states emphatically that at any time on earth only maybe six people have become jnanas.

Poonjaji states this outright in his biography "Nothing Ever Happens" -- only six people at a time on earth are jnanas.

But many of Ramana Maharshi's followers claim to be jnanas or are going around teaching that they are, etc.

As I stated his followers do not confront the whole "undead" truth that Ramana states very explicitly.

Brahmin teaching is based on very strict logic and discipline -- traditionally there can be no contact with females and purification has to occur constantly.

Even Vivekananda's books on yoga state that Jnana yoga is the highest level and the hardest.

Also Ramana Maharshi states that there are people who can go into deep trance, stop their hearts for as long as they want but when they come out of that trance -- even if it's 1000 years later -- then their ego just pops up as it was before they went into trance.

This is why the logio of self-enquiry or "vichara" is a very specific practice to break through all types of trance-samadhi.

But the teacher I studied from, after he read my research, said jokingly "the only thing I haven't done yet is killed myself." That teacher, Chunyi Lin, is a Taoist and very practical.

Poonjaji and the advaitas insist that their practice is not just another trick but for Buddhists and Taoists and other shamans "killing yourself" is just another

"level of emptiness"

Read Master Nan, Huai-chin.

He's awesome and a best-selling yoga-professor in Asia but remains totally unread in the "spiritual" new age circles in the U.S.

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Old 06-02-2006, 03:47 PM   #6
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Parapsychology professor emeritus Steven M. Rosen has a new book out "Topologies of the Flesh" (Ohio U Press) that should also be an excellent analysis of these paradoxes.

You can read an online overview of his "agenda" by searching his name and "the radical recursion" is an essay to be found.

Basically while Buddhism emphasizes space as empty awareness and Advaita with space as consciousness -- the Tai Chi symbol and NeoPythagorean analysis indicates something more along lines of an extension of Einstein's theory of relativity as David Bohm did.

Nobel laureate Brian Josephson supports Rosen's work and Josephson has also turned to music theory to explain these mysteries (just as quantum mathematician Alain Connes).

Essentially since the Klein Bottle can not be visualized it represents a limit of conceptualization in science that must be overcome --

internally -- for science to continue without totally destroying everything.

So it's not a right vs. left brain issue but a formless dimension issue.

Again I don't believe in evolution as progress. I think humans are just a medium for a cycling of the elements.

Daniel - have you read the Sinister Forces series by Peter Levenda!! see http://sinisterforces.info

Also those "strange attractor" people should read it.

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Old 06-13-2006, 12:17 AM   #7
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Hi Drew, you mention Ramana Maharishi. I came across his works while at Tiruvannamalai but back then didn't study them in any depth - I felt i had enough on my plate with Sri Aurobindo. Could you recommend a good introductary book of his?

(By the way, a little miracle just occurred. I wrote 'tiruvanamali' above, and it seems to have corrected itself.)

Have you read Rosen's new book? Its been recommended to me recently.
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Old 06-13-2006, 01:23 AM   #8
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This is really weird. I'm reading it right now!! And I just finished reading the first section where he states that "I am not-I" enables ontology as prereflection. I was thinking, yes well that's what Ramana Maharshi taught.

This is super bizarre mind melt! Wow.

I recommend "Talks with Ramana Maharshi" -- it's the longest work of his but covers all the bases (including the most controversial part about his heart stopping for over 10 minutes after nine years of seculsion. A little detail that his followers seem to want to ignore, as per my inquiries on their email list).

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Old 06-13-2006, 04:49 AM   #9
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snow-gore is an oil fascist. ever hear of occidental oil, or plan columbia?
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Old 06-13-2006, 05:15 AM   #10
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hi smith, yes i know he is one of the gang, my thinking- in that election - was that even a small shiver of lesser of the evils of 2000 would make a big differance on the global ecological scale.

what do you think?
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Old 06-13-2006, 05:44 AM   #11
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Drew, thats a strange coincidence - I'll definitely have to look for that book!

"As I've already stated Picknett and Prince also authored "The Stargate Conspiracy" which pinpoints a CIA-Freemason agenda to promote techno-spirituality, the idea that an elite group of people are privy to supernatural engineering that will ultimate transform the whole planet (even though the means to do so is genocide and apocalypse).

Their website detailed Jose Arguelles' close ties with James Hurtak who is a main figure discussed in their book but then the website was attacked by "Virginia" -- the CIA."

What do you think of the Stargate Conspircay, overall? I'm sympathetic to the idea that much of the new age material is disinformation, and could well be encouraged by those with an interest in cloaking secret military experiments. And we all know what brutality the military-trained mind is capable of...there are some unsettling stories around the CIA mind control experiments, MKULTRA etc.

I read Stargate years ago when i was a kid and felt that the authors missed the point of their own research when they added their own alien influence theory at the end. Been a while since I read it though.
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"Talks with Ramana Maharshi" is an excellent book. An answer too many question to Ramana Maharshi was ‘who is asking the question?’
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Old 06-13-2006, 06:37 AM   #13
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Yeah well I confronted Gore face to face for about 20 minutes. He was surrounded by about a dozen secret service and I had about a dozen activists who joined me in challenging his Oxy family trust fund -- that was in 2000.

My final words, as he left, were "the blood of the U'Wa are on your conscience." I yelled that across the room then helicopters circled the parking lot and I was pulled over by a cop. He never said why he pulled me over -- just asked for my license, went to his car, then said "thanks."

On the stargate conspiracy -- if you search my name and "the actual plan for the matrix" and "the real matrix" -- you get my two summaries that give further details to the Stargate Conspiracy.

Basically Andrija Puharich, CIA mind control scientist featured in the Stargate Conspiracy, co-wrote a manifesto for a U.N.-L.B.J.-Theosophist-Institute for Advanced Study at Princeton think tank called the World Institute.

The manifesto, the book "Cosmic Humanism and World Unity" by professor Oliver L. Reiser uses "the Matrix" term over and over and then lays out the future of global technology as humans being the "Neuroblasts" for a superconducting holographic transformation of earth.

You can just scroll down on http://drewhempel.gnn.tv to find both summaries.
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Andrija Puharich! I was struggling to recall that guys name so didn't mention him in my last post. There was a pdf online about CIA psilocybin research in the 50s that he was involved in, but I can't seem to find it now. It was written by one of the researchers who helped the stargate authors...

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Right I read that via a poster on sinisterforces.info

You want http://philipcoppens.com
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