Ayahuasca ceremonies in USA!

[greenfries]

I live in the Bay area of San Fran and Im extremely interested in learning from this plant. I have had experience with a shaman for about a year and we have used a drum to alter our consciousness. I want to use ayahuasca in order to compare it to the drum. I have never used drugs, and if I have it was for medicinal purposes. That is exactly how I intend to use this plant, as a medicine.
If I have never done a hallucinogen before, will it be a great shock to my body using Ayahuasca? I dont have the money to travel to Peru so Im trying to find a way to experience a journey here in San Fran. I know if anywhere in this country, it has to be happening here. Does anyone know of any Ayahuasca ceremonies in this area? Do I need to be apart of the udv church? thanks

[Caprinardo Delirio]

there are some ayahuasca forums somwhere... just search!

happy go lucky, fries!

[ayahuascakhan]

I recommend watching everything on youtube about ayahuasca and google video. In fact I recommend you go to www.consciousmedianetwork.com and watch the interviews with graham hancock. He talks about ayahuasca. Other than that you should go to erowid.org, www.deoxy.org and look up things about ayahuasca. I can also suggest watching "shamans of the amazon" on google video and going to the ayahuasca forum www.ayahuasca.com.

Ayahuasca is very physically demanding as you actually go through a process of purging out negative toxins accumulated throughout the body over your lifetime. If you can't afford to go to Peru now maybe you would like to save up for March , as I am traveling to stay with Shipibo shamans in the amazon river basin. Let me know if you are interested and also please read my old posts.

I also have been exploring shaman drum circles to reach altered states of consciousness by journeying. However, ayahuasca not only physically clenses you but it also explores all of your subconsciousness and the traumatic events you have encountered or your worst fears. There is just so much information now on the web in regards to ayahuasca that I believe if you are sincere about this than you will have an amazing understanding of this entheogen. All the best of luck to you my brother.

[Isaiah Mpski]

Since your post about your trip on LSD and ask if such had influenced others in dramatic fashion.

You're doing the first thing I did after my first acid trip which has affected everything in my life since.

You're trying to find more meaning and there is little reason to go to Peru where all sorts of diseases and the like run rampant to learn you have learned as much as you're going to.

You can find just as much meaning in the Peyote fields of Mexico and it too involves purging.But unlike DMT,you always come out of a peyote purge with a desire to improve your actions in life and living.

[ayahuascakhan]

Thank you for your input Isaiah. LSD has opened up several doors for me and going to Peru to drink ayahuasca has been a part of my path even before my first LSD trip. This is just my 4th entheogen I will be engaging in. I do plan on traveling to Mexico 2 summers from now to try and have Peyote visions. I don't know yet where I will be going but I don't intend on stopping at ayahuasca or stopping at all. Mother aya I feel will show me and teach me things that other entheogens can never.

I plan on having a psilocyibin experience this weekend and the last time I had a psilocybin trip was exactly 18 months ago. I am not affluent or anything but I have been saving money for quite a while to plan this trip to Peru. I have even gathered a pretty good size group so far. You say Peru has a diseases and other things, but you forget to talk about it's amazon rainforest and beautiful culture and wildlife. You look at the US and I feel there is more disease here than in any other country or province. Look at obesity, hence laziness, programmed nation filled with symbols, government, there is so much sickness here I feel. So for me to be able to escape this capitalistic grip to go to Peru and be taught by plants and reconnect with the spirit of nature is a beautiful holy experience.

By drinking ayahuasca I am not limiting myself to only that entheogen however, it is the one entheogen I am most passionate about because it really seems to be the best healing medicinal brew.

I am excited to explore MDMA, Peyote, and DMT for my first time within the next 2 years. Your right though Isaiah I could go to the fields of Mexico, but I never said that I wouldn't. Right now in my immeadiate path ayahuasca has called to me and Peru is my destination.

[suebee]

ive read several times about ayahuasca 'ceremonies' in hawaii which seem to happen with some regularity.

[greenfries]

I have done my homework on ayahuasca, and continue to learn about the knowledge that this mixture offers. I’m currently reading Hancock’s book on the subject, and I have seen him speak in NYC at Alex Grey’s art gallery about his journeys. I believe Disinformation hosted this. I have also attended something Pinchback put together in NYC were individuals spoke about their experiences. Also, I was fortunate enough to be able to learn from a Shaman in CT for free for a year and a half. But like I said we only used a drum to induce an altered state. I learned a great deal from this man. This is when I was living on the east coast. Now that I’m on the best (west) coast I’m looking to find experienced people to do this with. I have never done drugs before, but recently worked with psychedelic mushrooms and found it to be very similar experience to what I was doing with the drum, but the only difference was that all of my senses were heightened allowing me to visualize more clearly. That is, more clearly in subjective worlds in my head, as well as the objective. I don't want to spend 2,000 bucks when I know I can find people in my area doing this. I guess it’s a matter of time for me to find them or them to find me. Until that happens, I plan on working with psychedelic mushrooms more to prepare. Thank for the info and send anything else you got. Thanks again bro

[daniel]

Hey there,

I have to insist that this forum is not a place for asking about where to find psychedelic experiences, unless the types of experiences you are seeking are fully legal, such as South American shamanic journeys.

Lately, my Internet energies have been going to my web magazine, Reality Sandwich, http://realitysandwich. If anyone catches any improper behavior on this forum, I would appreciate if they would email me - daniel@breakingopenthehead.com - so I can step in. If anyone is interested in taking on moderation function, they should also email me.

Have a great day!

Yours,
Daniel

[ayahuascakhan]

Originally Posted by greenfries

I have done my homework on ayahuasca, and continue to learn about the knowledge that this mixture offers. I’m currently reading Hancock’s book on the subject, and I have seen him speak in NYC at Alex Grey’s art gallery about his journeys. I believe Disinformation hosted this. I have also attended something Pinchback put together in NYC were individuals spoke about their experiences. Also, I was fortunate enough to be able to learn from a Shaman in CT for free for a year and a half. But like I said we only used a drum to induce an altered state. I learned a great deal from this man. This is when I was living on the east coast. Now that I’m on the best (west) coast I’m looking to find experienced people to do this with. I have never done drugs before, but recently worked with psychedelic mushrooms and found it to be very similar experience to what I was doing with the drum, but the only difference was that all of my senses were heightened allowing me to visualize more clearly. That is, more clearly in subjective worlds in my head, as well as the objective. I don't want to spend 2,000 bucks when I know I can find people in my area doing this. I guess it’s a matter of time for me to find them or them to find me. Until that happens, I plan on working with psychedelic mushrooms more to prepare. Thank for the info and send anything else you got. Thanks again bro

I'm glad that you have decided to experience psilocybin more however, you say more to prepare? More to prepare for ayahuasca? I feel that you should experience mushrooms as an entheogen in itself. A preparation of ayahuasca would simply be a matter of intention and a dieta would help tremendously. It's funny for you to say the west coast is the best coast because that's subjective as well my friend Who said you had to spend $2000 on an ayahuasca journey? YOu could go for $1300 and some places cheaper. Just do your homework on your own and gather a group. You say "I guess it's a matter of time for me to find them or them to find me". You must have the intention for ayahuasca not for it to juts happen tomorrow. NOT to say that you couldn't or shouldn't have ayahuasca ceremonies in your land but for your first time I feel it should be with a shaman or a guide that has experience and vast knowledge of this teacher. Also, I feel that it would be so much more potent and organic to drink ayahausca in the jungle where you can truly feel the rhythm and pule of the earth. Where you can reconnect with the spirit of nature.

It's just like how you mentioned you learned from a shaman to have clearer senses. Shamans will be that guide for you that will take you to other dimensions cosmicly and in yourself through their icaros. Hey man but you seem to know what you are doing and if you can't afford that trip right now in your path than that's cool. However, for me I have been planning this for over a year and it is "MY" immeadiate path. I need to drink ayahuasca for my first experience with a shaman in the amazon river basin.

My suggestion. I can tell that you want to experience this plant as a medicine, and it will heal your physically, however there are many planes to it. spiritual cleansing and psychic cleansing. essentially they are all the same. However, I also understand that you have not experienced other entheogens except for mushrooms. YOu asked if this will make ayahuasca a more intense experience. Than I noticed you saying that you will prepare by doing more mushrooms. One again I feel you are approaching this wrong. I feel that you should continue to post on forums such as this and the ayahuasca forum (google it) and see that you will find a community of people like yourself who want to engage in drinking this medicinal brew. I recommend personally that you come with me and drink ayahuasca with Shipibo Shamans in March. It wont' be $2000 just message me for more info. Other than that I wish all the best of luck man and you are on the right path. I probably saw you than at the COSM when disinformation was hosting the entheosalon with Graham Hancock. I referenced www.consciousmedianetwork.com and asked him about the lost chamber he discovered under the left paw of the sphinx, supposedly it hold the scriptures for the lost ancient civilization of atlantis. He is fascinating and his book "supernatural" should be read by everyone.

[ayahuascakhan]

Originally Posted by greenfries

I have done my homework on ayahuasca, and continue to learn about the knowledge that this mixture offers. I’m currently reading Hancock’s book on the subject, and I have seen him speak in NYC at Alex Grey’s art gallery about his journeys. I believe Disinformation hosted this. I have also attended something Pinchback put together in NYC were individuals spoke about their experiences. Also, I was fortunate enough to be able to learn from a Shaman in CT for free for a year and a half. But like I said we only used a drum to induce an altered state. I learned a great deal from this man. This is when I was living on the east coast. Now that I’m on the best (west) coast I’m looking to find experienced people to do this with. I have never done drugs before, but recently worked with psychedelic mushrooms and found it to be very similar experience to what I was doing with the drum, but the only difference was that all of my senses were heightened allowing me to visualize more clearly. That is, more clearly in subjective worlds in my head, as well as the objective. I don't want to spend 2,000 bucks when I know I can find people in my area doing this. I guess it’s a matter of time for me to find them or them to find me. Until that happens, I plan on working with psychedelic mushrooms more to prepare. Thank for the info and send anything else you got. Thanks again bro

I'm glad that you have decided to experience psilocybin more however, you say more to prepare? More to prepare for ayahuasca? I feel that you should experience mushrooms as an entheogen in itself. A preparation of ayahuasca would simply be a matter of intention and a dieta would help tremendously. It's funny for you to say the west coast is the best coast because that's subjective as well my friend Who said you had to spend $2000 on an ayahuasca journey? YOu could go for $1300 and some places cheaper. Just do your homework on your own and gather a group. You say "I guess it's a matter of time for me to find them or them to find me". You must have the intention for ayahuasca not for it to juts happen tomorrow. NOT to say that you couldn't or shouldn't have ayahuasca ceremonies in your land but for your first time I feel it should be with a shaman or a guide that has experience and vast knowledge of this teacher. Also, I feel that it would be so much more potent and organic to drink ayahausca in the jungle where you can truly feel the rhythm and pule of the earth. Where you can reconnect with the spirit of nature.

It's just like how you mentioned you learned from a shaman to have clearer senses. Shamans will be that guide for you that will take you to other dimensions cosmicly and in yourself through their icaros. Hey man but you seem to know what you are doing and if you can't afford that trip right now in your path than that's cool. However, for me I have been planning this for over a year and it is "MY" immeadiate path. I need to drink ayahuasca for my first experience with a shaman in the amazon river basin.

My suggestion. I can tell that you want to experience this plant as a medicine, and it will heal your physically, however there are many planes to it. spiritual cleansing and psychic cleansing. essentially they are all the same. However, I also understand that you have not experienced other entheogens except for mushrooms. YOu asked if this will make ayahuasca a more intense experience. Than I noticed you saying that you will prepare by doing more mushrooms. One again I feel you are approaching this wrong. I feel that you should continue to post on forums such as this and the ayahuasca forum (google it) and see that you will find a community of people like yourself who want to engage in drinking this medicinal brew. I recommend personally that you come with me and drink ayahuasca with Shipibo Shamans in March. It wont' be $2000 just message me for more info. Other than that I wish all the best of luck man and you are on the right path. I probably saw you than at the COSM when disinformation was hosting the entheosalon with Graham Hancock. I referenced www.consciousmedianetwork.com and asked him about the lost chamber he discovered under the left paw of the sphinx, supposedly it hold the scriptures for the lost ancient civilization of atlantis. He is fascinating and his book "supernatural" should be read by everyone.

[drew hempel]

Hey the rate I found was about $3000 for the shipibo shaman:

http://shamanism.wordpress.com/2007/...o-interviewed/

So how have your Ayahuasca trips been with the shipibo and who do you trip with?

[Isaiah Mpski]

3 k to meet the bellbooy of the Hotel of Doom.

Geez,I can't figure why any juan would want to spend that much money to get bitten by spiders or other types of critters-mosquitos,ticks,fleas,scorpians when they could go to Mexico with me for half that price.

Listen I think juan is wise to fill his brain with just plants and directions and not brain trips.

By the way Lord Hemp.
How is your ass.hahahahaha.Frozen?
Probably easier to ride him than your bicycle.

Listen SueBee.
One time I went to a peyote ceremony in Taos.
They wouldn't let me conduct it even though I am direct lineage to the Man who organized the Native American Church.

Can you understand it will be the same way for Christ when he comes fer his reward(crown).Some will call him crazy but the ,King can do no wrong.
What an amazing sight in the skies of DSC.

[drew hempel]

First my bike lock froze in an ice storm about a month ago. Then I actually snapped off my freewheel sprocket while biking through the snow. The bike store owner said that was a very rare phenomenon occurring due to the power of my legs. The lady at the store said I was amazing and the man said I should be careful. haha. So when the temp hit 20 below zero (plus wind chill making it probably 30 below zero) I finally switched to the bus. Last time I biked was Weds. night but today is warm enough again -- 3 below zero Fahrenheit. haha.

[Isaiah Mpski]

Seriously Drew.
I hope you are staying warm.

I think we are in for an early spring and a hot summer.

When are you coming SB?

I'm going to start to dewinterize the lake haouse tomorrow for my party on the 20th.
If you and DC come Willow,bring some ammonites and some good wine..

[Giselle62]

Drums and fasting and sweating and dancing seem to be the way a lot of peoples attained altered states; so that's really not too shabby to have studied with the man who taught you about that. I'm a musical person and always liked drumming or singing to help ground me when my mind goes out there.
but I really understand your desire to try this.
I'm afraid I would be one of those women who just dry heaved the whole time if I took ayahuasca. I got sick from my first Rainbow Gathering in Missouri and my gastro-intestinal area was never the same. (Sorry.)

[Isaiah Mpski]

Sounds like to me you're staring another reproductive cyvle and need to be cleansed of parasites,a couple of different genus species.
Are you the sudent fron All bee quirkee?UNM.
Tell me yes because I really enjoyed that day at the baths with you .?

If you've ever been to the 'Rainbow" you certainly need a good cleansing.

The Doc

[kinkaka]

Originally Posted by ayahuascakhan

I'm glad that you have decided to experience psilocybin more however, you say more to prepare? More to prepare for ayahuasca? I feel that you should experience mushrooms as an entheogen in itself. A preparation of ayahuasca would simply be a matter of intention and a dieta would help tremendously. It's funny for you to say the west coast is the best coast because that's subjective as well my friend Who said you had to spend $2000 on an ayahuasca journey? YOu could go for $1300 and some places cheaper. Just do your homework on your own and gather a group. You say "I guess it's a matter of time for me to find them or them to find me". You must have the intention for ayahuasca not for it to juts happen tomorrow. NOT to say that you couldn't or shouldn't have ayahuasca ceremonies in your land but for your first time I feel it should be with a shaman or a guide that has experience and vast knowledge of this teacher. Also, I feel that it would be so much more potent and organic to drink ayahausca in the jungle where you can truly feel the rhythm and pule of the earth. Where you can reconnect with the spirit of nature.

It's just like how you mentioned you learned from a shaman to have clearer senses. Shamans will be that guide for you that will take you to other dimensions cosmicly and in yourself through their icaros. Hey man but you seem to know what you are doing and if you can't afford that trip right now in your path than that's cool. However, for me I have been planning this for over a year and it is "MY" immeadiate path. I need to drink ayahuasca for my first experience with a shaman in the amazon river basin.

My suggestion. I can tell that you want to experience this plant as a medicine, and it will heal your physically, however there are many planes to it. spiritual cleansing and psychic cleansing. essentially they are all the same. However, I also understand that you have not experienced other entheogens except for mushrooms. YOu asked if this will make ayahuasca a more intense experience. Than I noticed you saying that you will prepare by doing more mushrooms. One again I feel you are approaching this wrong. I feel that you should continue to post on forums such as this and the ayahuasca forum (google it) and see that you will find a community of people like yourself who want to engage in drinking this medicinal brew. I recommend personally that you come with me and drink ayahuasca with Shipibo Shamans in March. It wont' be $2000 just message me for more info. Other than that I wish all the best of luck man and you are on the right path. I probably saw you than at the COSM when disinformation was hosting the entheosalon with Graham Hancock. I referenced www.consciousmedianetwork.com and asked him about the lost chamber he discovered under the left paw of the sphinx, supposedly it hold the scriptures for the lost ancient civilization of atlantis. He is fascinating and his book "supernatural" should be read by everyone.

You can have all the intention in the world but if you dont speak spanish ( or know someone who you can trust who does ) your probably going to get fucked as I did - not once - but twice
and then that was it for me.

BTW i did my homework and hung out at once of those forums - hell even spoke to an ex editor of the high times about it , but it got me nowhere

Besides I get bad enough trips as it is without even taking drugs these days.

Aya may well cure some people some of things but when I took it ( hence my reference to fucked ) I didnt get diddly , and - in fact - would have probably got higher off my own farts.

It wasnt good experince , and pretty much wasted 2 months of time , money , effort, and in the end put me off trying again for probably life.

I didnt enjoy the damm jungle or peru , and to be honest would of rather taken peyote ( as i hear good things about it ) somewhere else I did feel drawn too ( arizona )

I cant say my queer health anomlies make this any easier but I do know from other experinces that , if anything , I am verty senstitive to entheogens and that genuine shaman ( wooden hut out in amazon and all ) was most defintely full of shit.

[Isaiah Mpski]

Hahahahahahah..so you think Quanah may have known what he was talking about when he started the NAC,with peyote as the sacrament?

I doubt there is much good stuff growing outside of Mexico.And out there you can't get hurt.