Pyramids...

[Charlie]

Has anyone read The Giza Power Plant, by Christopher Dunn? I have not, though I have clicked around his web page, and read a lot of discussion about his theory. Dunn is a professional machinist and engineer. One of the more literate Amazon.com reviewers describes the book thus:

"Dunn claims the Great Pyramid was a large acoustical device in which the technology of harmonic resonance was used to convert the earth's vibrational energies to microwave radiation. He demonstrates the fact that the chambers and passages in the pyramid were positioned with deliberate precision to optimise its acoustical properties. When the pyramid was vibrating in tune with the earth's pulse, it became a coupled oscillator that could carry the transfer of power from the earth with little or no feedback, while the three smaller pyramids on the Giza plateau could have been used to help the Great Pyramid achieve the required resonance. The King's Chamber, built of igneous granite containing silicon quartz crystals, served as the power centre while the Queen's Chamber was used to generate hydrogen, the fuel that ran the plant. Certain artefacts reveal that the ancient Egyptians used advanced machining methods."

Dunn postulates that this power plant was used to power high-precision tools for manufacturing. Because I am one of those empty-headed new-age wackos that scientists decry, I would call the pyramids Cosmic Resonators rather than power plants.

One of the less-than-coincidental similarities between the Egyptian and Mayan pyramids is their amazing acoustical properties. An informal discussion of the Mayan acoustics can be found here .

If we make a big jump and theorize that concepts like consciousness, time, and telepathy are vibrational frequencies, wouldn’t it make sense that perfect-pitch, huge vibrational resonators could tune in and amplify these frequencies, broadcasting and attracting other consciousnesses, time components, or simply Gaian healing properties?

What a lot of nonsense I'm spouting... Everyone knows the most complex, perfect structures ever built were just to bury one or two dead people...

I have been reading a lot of arcane science stuff lately, about Tesla coils, orgone generators, fibanacci ratios, et al, and will post more on that at another time…

[Buzz]

haven't read the book Charlie, but I'm slightly familiar with his work. I do believe that Dunn predicted that a certain cut channel would be discovered running from the king's chamber down to .... somewhere. And a channel was revealed this year.
Also, I believe it's Dunn who thinks that the pyramids worked in concert with other resonance structures at key positions around the globe and that a technology was involved which allowed people to fly in some sort of airship. Not sure if I'm not confusing the ideas of several folks here.
Dunn's an interesting character, he's been trying to figure out how Edward Leetskalnin built Coral Castle in Homestead, FL.

Charlie, have you traveled over to northern Italy to see the pyramids that were discovered there last year? 3 of them, supposedly as large as Giza pyramids and in a similar alignment. I haven't read any updates lately.

[ November 17, 2004, 05:48 AM: Message edited by: Buzz ]

[Buzz]

here's a link to a story about the Italian pyramids:
http://crystalinks.com/pyritaly.html

[Charlie]

Hi, Buzz:

I had no idea there were pyramids in Italy--too bad, since I was in Milan last February.

For me, a discovery like that is on a level with the recent "hobbit" skeletons found in Indonesia--but I could find scarcely more than what you linked to. You would think every archaelogist and film crew would be racing to Montevecchia to investigate...

Getting back to harmonic resonances, there's some heavy lifting here:

http://www.lightmind.com/library/hem...-current2.html

[nanouk]

fantastic couple of hours reading there, thanks charlie... (:
it is a shame i was completely disinterested in physics in school(well i was doing ok in most subjects, but the sciences took more concentration to grasp)but i understand the importance of vibrations for universal balance and growth, just look at a time lapse video of a germinating seed or a growing vine!...and i know for sure that my house plants love having the radio on all day! (:

regarding the montevecchia pyramids, hmmm found lots of links by searching under 'montevecchia pyramids' in google, looks like this knowledge resonated all over the planet, or was the rapa nui right?

[ November 18, 2004, 01:52 AM: Message edited by: Nanouk ]

[Lowlight]

the whole idea of crystals resonating and thus causing some kind of effect is interesting. Nearly a year ago now i was concentrating on a piece of quartz crystal and was surprised to 'see' a group of disembodied blue spheres which were similar to eyes appear when i closed my eyes. I dont know how or why, and didnt have much luck attaining similar effects the couple of times i tried it after that. I dont think i know enough about the use of crystals. Can any hit me with some knowledge?

Napoleon is said to have spent a night alone in the great pyramids main chamber but had such an experience that he never talked about it but came out in the morning looking terrified.

[sire_012]

http://www.littlemountainsmudge.com/introtoorgonite.pdf

its a great primer on orgonite and also the use of crystals for boosting signals/thought forms. highly reccomended.

[michael heany]

During my strange time on the playa this year, I encountered a man dressed as a pharoah. He wanted to spank me. I declined.

Then his mummy showed up. (A real mummy, or the best mummy outfit ever). The pharaoh yelled out, "I love this guy!"

They started grinding against each other, dancing, laughing.

[Lowlight]

Thanks sire, will check out that link now!

peace

[Slow Dancer]

This was found in a pyramid.
It's called The Flower of Life.
It contains alot of information.
There is a man named Drunvalo Melchizedek who believes that a huge spaceship will come down on the great pyramid, just like in that movie stargate.
And that there will be a pole shift, and the world will turn on its axis.
all this is supposed to happen in 2012.

i believe that the pyramids are some sort of mechanism that provides us with eternal life.

[Buzz]

the pattern above, is that what they call a Merkbah or something like that? On a note of interest, this design was discussed recently at another forum. And...I was watching Rick Bayless (cooks and explores Mexico on a PBS cooking show) and a Mexican woman was making bread using this pattern.

Charlie, I found a couple of interviews with Chris Dunn and others. I'm listening to the first right now. Too early to comment. You will need Windows Media Player to listen.
Chris Dunn Pyramid interview Part 1
and:
Chris Dunn Pyramid Interview, Part 2

[ December 13, 2004, 04:16 AM: Message edited by: Buzz ]

[daniel]

I haven't read the links which sound interesting, but I think the basic idea makes sense.

As I mentioned on another thread, a friend of mine described taking a large quartz crystal into the temple of the inscriptions in palenque, while tripping on mushrooms started doing vocalizations, and felt the whole room and the crystal were starting to resonate, to morph - then a guard came in and stopped him.

i think that we will put this whole technology back together again - we still don't know the ultimate purpose of it. Interacting with interdimensional agencies? Making passages to alternate realities? Diplomacy with galactic intelligences? transmuting 'maya' to institute new magical realities?

also with magic rather than western science which its emphasis on verifiability repeatability, i would imagine that magical events were unique events - however the massive engineering feats involved in the pyramids suggest some sort of repeatability, some sort of stabilization of practice and results. This seems like a little bit of a paradox to me - as with so much else from the ancient world.

[paul]

Haven't read the the links here either.. but all the pyramids at one point contained fragments of metiorites...ben ben stones...rather like the kabbalah at mecca ...and as such were believed by the ancient egyptians to be door ways to the stars...

daniel ...havent time to reply to yr "greys ' post just now...hope to do so in the next week. Paul.
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" the law of karma "

[ December 14, 2004, 08:03 PM: Message edited by: paul ]

[Buzz]

Which thread is the Palenque story in Daniel?

Did the guard perceive the resonance?
Also, was it a singular note? If so, did your friend recognize it, E,A,B,C,G? If these issues are addressed in the other thread, i'll read it there.

I've read that pyramids (and I'd include earthern mounds as well) are containers of an energy brought up from the earth. I'm very curious about Edgar Cayce and the readings he did. He seemed to say (it's a bit difficult to read the trance material) that priests brought up the force from the earth and it was a gas. A gaseous vapor. According to the writings of James Mooney, the Cherokee built mounds over an eternal fire, the priest started the fire, a hollow cedar log was placed vertically over the fire and the earth was mounded up around it. The legend goes that for centuries priests would retrieve fire from the base of the mound for a sacred ritual.

[ December 15, 2004, 10:14 AM: Message edited by: Buzz ]

[Charlie]

Bump.

Last week I learned on this forum that a five-sided pyramid exists on Mars. Everything I have read thus far suggests intelligent design.

Don’t know 'bout you folks, but for me, that’s kinda major.

I thought the pyramids and other sacred structures were a part of the puzzle; now I'm quite sure. This gives me another tool I can work with.

I’ve started building the Incredibly Stellar, Orgone-Generating, Cosmic-Resonating, Interdimensional Time Machine. I shit you not! Pics of the ISOG CRITM will be duly posted upon completion!

I got all these cool round stones that were at the bottom of a riverbed, a shitload of calcite crystals, a sort of semi-natural pyramid shape in my yard that faces due north, an engineer's compass and tape measure. I have absolutely no idea what the fuck I am doing, which I believe is a great strategic advantage.

I kinda scare my wife sometimes, but it's okay. Even if the sucker doesn’t work, it’ll be a nice piece of landscape art for my house.

Cheers!

[Charlie]

On another thread I mentioned the other-worldly sound of frogs…not to my great surprise, frogs were very important in the Mayan culture:

According to the Mayas, during the night the spirits of divine beings (benigns and maligns) come up of the jungle. One of the most noticeable jungle choruses that are listened at night is from frogs. Besides, frogs were considered beings from the underworld, possibly because during winter they bury themselves underground or in the mud looking for humidity and to resist the cold.

http://www.geocities.com/rvelaz.geo/frogs/frogs.html

My own wildly conceptual, unsupported theory is that frogs, like certain teacher plants, are living, conscious portals into extra-dimensional frequencies. After all, one of the most potent sources of DMT comes from these frogs.

I’ve had several insights lately…the main one being that we need not only to wake ourselves up, we need to wake the earth up. The resulting “wave” will act as both a celebration, and an SOS...

On a related note, we will be celebrating the Mayan Calendar “Day Out of Time” next Sunday at our house, with a huge party, if you happen to be in Spain, drop by! The highlight of the day/evening will be a concert played by a group that only uses aboriginal instruments; later on, anyone with a drum, flute, etc. is invited to play.

Why wait for the new revolution to show up, when it's much more fun to help create it?

More to come…

[dragonfly]

Originally posted by Charlie:
On another thread I mentioned the other-worldly sound of frogs…not to my great surprise, frogs were very important in the Mayan culture...

They were also important in Old European culture, where they were equated with the life-giving uterus of the goddess. The following is from Marija Gimbutas' Language of the Goddess:

...To this day European peasants believe that a toad is a portent of pregnancy. There is a good deal of evidence from both folklore and history (Egyptian, Greek, Roman, and later) that the toad was regarded as an epiphany of the Goddess or her uterus. ... In many countries the croaking of frogs in springtime is said to resemble the cries of unborn children; the frog itself, therefore, represents the soul of the not-yet-incarnate child. ... In the Jungian psychology of dreams, this creature, not yet a human being, represents an unconscious impulse that has a definite tendency to become conscious. ...

"... In 19th century Lithuania, wooden tombstones were constructed in the form of a toad with a lily (symbolic of new life) sprouting from its head. ... In northeastern Siberia, the Nikhs (Giglyaks) of Sakhalin in the lower Amur area made pictures of a toad with buds at each extremity, for use in the course of the commemoration feast held for the dead ... The frog's association with life-generating forces is preserved in the functions of the German Frog Goddess, Holla/Holle, inhabiting wells, ponds, bogs, and caves. Holla in the guise of a frog brings back to earth the red apple, symbol of life, which when ripe falls down into the well ..."

Interestingly, when my Lithuanian-speaking grandmother would curse me and my brothers for being bad, she would call us "rupuze," the Lithuanian word for "toad." My guess is that something once held sacred by Lithuanian culture was turned into a devil figure by Christianity and reduced to a swear word.

[forteanajones]

The ISOG CRITM is born! I love it! I'm enjoying the mental image of all of our significant others and closer friends pulling their hair out as we BOTHers actively engage with these puzzles. (Don't know about you guys, but I myself am having a total Roy Neary experience with my SO, a la Close Encounters).

But back on topic, falling frogs also strikes me as an important part of the clue Charlie just brought up, even if it's a kind of a reversal of the singing. It's a huge icon in the world of the unexplained. Here's a letter Charles Fort wrote on it in 1924.

Fort to the Philadelphia Public Ledger
(Published July 27, 1924)
"Red Lizards, Snakes and Frogs Out of the Sky"
A Gentleman of London Seeks Information on These Phenomena, and Offers a Theory
To the Editor of the Public Ledger:

Sir—

When upon January 15, 1877, thousands of snakes poured from the sky into the streets of Memphis, Tenn., they were incredibly explained.

My own preference is for the ideas that they came from some other world and not through an intensely cold void, such as is popularly supposed to surround this earth, but by way of a warm air current, which explorers from this earth may some day traverse; that they came from some other world which is not millions of miles away.

And so I think of the thousands of red lizards which, upon July 19, 1886, may have come down in a scarlet flood from the sky in Pennsylvania.

The Monthly Weather Review, whatever it may be in the view of some persons, has no popular reputation as a jest book; also the Scientific American is no barbershop periodical. I take the story of the snakes of Memphis from the Monthly Weather Review, January, 1877, and the Scientific American, Volume XXXVI, page 86. It is said that upon the 15th of January, 1877, in the streets and yards of Memphis, after a violent thunderstorm, thousands of black snakes from a foot to eighteen inches long were found. There is no record of anybody who was out in the storm having seen snakes fall, but it was accepted that they had fallen from the sky.

The explanation had to account for the homogeneousness of the snakes. Why was it that only snakes fell with the rain? Also, but above everything else, when we think of how hard scientists fought to exclude data even of stones falling from the sky before Chladni's time, and then did their stoutest to exclude all falls except of a particular kind of stones, but are now abandoning that exclusion, we know that it had to be explained that these creatures did not come from anywhere beyond this earth. Defeat after defeat has come upon scientists for holding out for this earth's isolation, but for the salvation of as much as possible of their dogmas they are as resolute as ever they were. So it was explained that a whirlwind had picked up, from some other part of this earth's surface, tremendous masses of detachable objects and substances and had segregated them, according to specific gravity, so that fence rails, for instance, all fell together somewhere, large stones in a shower somewhere else, then snakes, which had been hibernating in the seized upon ground, pebbles further along, grasses and dried leaves of trees still further away, and then a final discharge of dust.

But in all my reading upon meteorological subjects I have never come across one instance of such separated falls by segregative wind action. In other issues of the Monthly Weather Review the homogeneousness of falls of frogs from the sky is so explained. How is it that when, in tremendous numbers, little frogs fall from the sky they are unmixed with other objects and substances? Always the explanation is that other things which have been caught up with the frogs by a whirlwind had fallen elsewhere in equally unmixed showers, but never is cited one known instance of such segregations by whirlwinds. Circumstances are the same with attempts in European scientific publications to account for the homogeneousness of hundreds of thousands of larvae which have six or seven times fallen from the sky in Switzerland. For some of the records see Flammarion's "The Atmosphere," page 414; "La Science Pour Tous," 14-183; "L'Astronomie," 1890, 313. Segregation, it is said, but never one instance that has ever been known to occur.

Then, if arrivals upon this earth of enormous numbers of living things never have been explained in terrestrial terms, I don't know of anything else left except to try in other terms.

In the Public Ledger, July 23, 1886, it is said that upon the morning of the 19th of July, at Hobdys Mills, Pa., after a severe rainstorm, the ground was found to be covered with bright red lizards; roads and fields scarlet with them. They were an inch and a half long; row of small black spots on each side. It seems that all were alive. In two hours all had crawled out of sight.

Of course, there may be no such place as Hobdys Mills, Pa. Neithe rin the heavens above nor anywhere else may there be little red lizards with black spots on them. But so definite are so many similar stories, some of which have been investigated, that it seems that arrivals there have been upon this earth like migrations from the sky. For a few of the many records see "Comptes Rendus," 3, 54; "Notes and Queries," 8-6, 104 and 190; "Scientific American," July 12, 1873; "Zoologist," 1859, 6493; "American Journal of Science," 32, 190; "Nature," September 19, 1918; "Science Gossip," 1886, 238; "Das Wetter," December, 1892; "L'Astronomie," 1880, 253.

July, 1886, was long ago, but if there is such a place as Hobdys Mills, and if the little red lizards with black spots did fall from the sky, some of them may be preserved to this day in somebody's collection of curiosities. If anybody can send information to me at my present address, 39 Marchmont street, Russell Square, London, England, it may be that we can have data upon a fall from the sky of living creatures unknown upon this earth. The phenomena look to me like migrations from unknown worlds not far away.

As to other data of other flotsam from other worlds, I have hundreds of records of falls from the sky of objects and substances, some of them unknown upon this earth, some of them living things known but falling at times unseasonable for them upon this earth; all of them living things, objects, substances never traced to origin upon this earth; all of them indicating that this earth is no more isolated in space than was Europe from America before the year 1492. But the isolation of science from recognition of data has been similar.

I have many data — available if required — which indicates that there may be warm air currents in outer space. My suggestion is that between this earth and other worlds there may be definite currents to which living things in other worlds respond migratorily. If living things can come to this earth from other worlds, we have the material for visions such as have not excited imaginations upon this earth since the year 1492.

CHARLES FORT. London, July 14, 1924.

Maybe the singing is the invocation, and the falling is the return journey?

[ July 18, 2005, 08:14 AM: Message edited by: forteanajones ]

[craazyman]

Ah, the internet. Hobdys Mills, PA does not reveal itself to a vigorous search, which might cast the frogs in doubt to a narrow mind. Nevertheless, Charles Fort was at least 100 years ahead of his time in my humble and irrelevant opinion. Interesting speculation about the warm air currents in outer space. Some time ago I read in the notebooks of Da Vinci how he speculated that all objects emit a faint glow, by which he explained the ability to see things in the dark. Although I am sure he must have, at least once, placed himself in a sealed room with objects that he couldn't therefore see. I don't know. Personally, I find it amusing and somewhat inspirational to see the collision of minds of genius with the limits of the science of their day & somewhat depressing to contemplate the limits of science in general. I can't figure out if we're the ultimate masters or victims of daemonic phenomenon. The daemons must have at least as much imagination as we have. If they sent frogs today they'd be on the weather channel & nightly news. So they send something else, just to keep us thinking. Somebody should give them a sharp spanking and send them to bed without their supper.

[dragonfly]

Originally posted by craazyman:
If they sent frogs today they'd be on the weather channel & nightly news. So they send something else, just to keep us thinking.

Apparently they're still sending frogs in some places...

[Agent Smith]

i have heard that there are chinese pyramids that the communist govt. furiously works to supress knowlege of.... i think they resemble the mayan ones, and are linked to ufos, some how or another... the book 'the chinese roswell' may get into it... they're in western china where the govt. has been trying to crush the muslims for decades...

...since it is difficult or us to get into the ancient pyramids that were built in the past, perhaps a consortium of quixoticly minded folk could dowse a likely spot, and build a new 'global' pyramid, for the general use of humanity, rather than the energetic/spiritual transformation of a few godkings?

...it's a thought anyway...

...and i find it interesting that poppa bush was at the giza pyramid on new years of 2000...

the 'merkaba'/flower of life is also the base hexagonal structure of a quartz crystal, when you simplify it down. sacred geometry is an interesting topic. the norse believed that the hexagonal cross structure was the shape of the 'world crystal', and the base shape that contained all of the runes... it also shows up in emoto's photographs of water crystals...

crystalinks is a funsite btw. has my favorite newage hookum story, the one about thoth/tahuti being an atlantean sorcerer who programmed the 'world crystal' in the last age, setting up the base structure for reality on this planet in this one... i like this one.

[Charlie]

One of my recent insights is an idea to build the largest pyramid on earth.

Mallorca has always been a magnet for artists of all sorts, from Chopin to Miró to Robert Graves. The island has also had its fair share of UFO sightings, and there still exist a few ancient monoliths, called Taliots. It has been theorized that Mallorca’s strange magnetic power comes from the fact that there's a goldmine of calcite crystals and clay silica here. The stuff is practically everywhere you look.

During World War II, America made a deal with Spain whereby they were allowed to put radar equipment on top of Mallorca’s highest mountain, in exchange for some Army engineering projects. The Mallorceans got a dammed reservoir and a tunnel; the Americans built their radar system.

As usual, the Army Corps of Engineers made a mistake in their calculations. As a result, a shadow from the mountain peak appeared on the radar. Their solution: blow the top of the mountain off. Standing four thousand feet high, the Puig Mayor (Biggest Peak) has never looked the same.

Two years ago, the Americans decided that with satellite technology, the radar system was no longer necessary, and dismantled it. The mountain should no longer be a restricted area.

My idea is to anchor two tangential arcing bars into the mutilated mountain peak, forming a perfect (at the top, anyway) Cheops pyramid. I’m not sure what alloys would work best for the arcs. The plan would be to label it as an anti-war/ecological art project, since “interdimensional cosmic resonator” wouldn’t fly very well with the local government.

A lot of things have to happen in my personal life first, before I could even begin to approach anyone with such a crazy idea.

[ July 19, 2005, 10:54 PM: Message edited by: Charlie ]

[Agent Smith]

yes charlie that's perecisely the sort of thing i'm talking about...

...as for the alloy... the main structure of the thing could be something durable like steel, or whatever, and the apex could house a more 'resonant' structure. i know several 'energy sculptors' who work in copper.

one guy i knew who grows wheat from crop circles (claims it has special properties), used to build pyramids from copper pipes filled with quartz fragments he'd get from a crystal mine in arkansas by the truck load (i think they almost paid him to take them away.) he'd build these things 9-12 feet tall, and place them on energetic hotspots all over his property... he was also really into building 3-D models of structures he saw represented in crop circles... nice guy. total loon.

[willoweyes]

Isn't there a riff about pyramid-building in one of Kurt Vonnegut's novels? I remember it as a shunting operation--the energy of the populance safely contained in the toil.

[Buzz]

Great Idea Charlie! Maybe you could grow caapi vines on the copper tubing. Promote a local lizard population.

"So I'm up here in the north woods
Just staring at the lake
Wondering just exactly how much
They think a man can take
I eat fish to pass the time away
'Neath this blue Canadian moon'
This old world has made me crazy
Crazy as a loon" from Crazy as a loon
by John Prine

[Charlie]

This was created for The Day Out of Time, using sacred geometry and alchemy.

At center is a pure calcite crystal, circled by tiny stones, surrounded by 3 calcite circles, representing Universal Peace. Inside those circles are a calcite Fibonnaci spiral, a Mayan Yellow Star, and a perfect pentagon. This is surrounded by a perfect circle, inside a perfect Triangle.

If the image posts too big here (I'm experimenting with public image serving), try this link...

[Agent Smith]

very nice Charlie...

...oddly enough, i'd forgotten about the day out of time, but arranged the 12 halite salt crystal lamps in my room in a circle, and have been doing ridiculous amounts of nei gong inside it ever since...

i just keep doing round, after round, after round, 'til my endorphins decide that it's time for me to drift off elsewhere... then i drink some water, and go back for more...

[Charlie]

Below is a link to a video clip of GOODOO, the group that played at our Day Out of Time festival.

This group only plays aboriginal instruments, about 15 different ones. They call it "music to wake the earth." Woke me up, that's for sure.

It was taped on a shitty video camera, the sound is pretty bad. I will be editing and publishing more clips, and posting them to a blog I'm in the process of making. Guess I'm really turning into a computer geek!

I didn't tape the best songs, I was too busy dancing. Goodoo will be playing on a big stage on August 20; I may rent a pro audio recorder to tape it, or at least try to do a better video taping job.

Try this hot link. If it doesn't work, use this one. It's a 6 megabyte file, so please be patient while it loads...